body/head -vs- chelsea light moving

"Alighted" live was really good, it's the song with the most staying power for me so far.

this is great but thurston idk

coming apart really delivers what thurston's last few records lack... actual rawness and textural variety. Thurston and Lee have solidified into riff zones, where their signature 'weird sounds' are more ornamental, adorning lame "pop" structured songs, rather than being used as building blocks. CLM improved on the last two thurston recs, but dude is hackneyed as ever.

My statement recently, which I still stand behind: Thurston & Lee have made good to really good records (but yeah pretty trad and not particularly inspired) since "the event". Kim (and Bill!) has made a singular and great record.

Finally heard that Body/Head record last night, kind of blew me away.

maria played a long song from the new lee renaldo album on her radio show and it sounded nice to me. he sounded so comfortable singing. and the guitars sounded cool.

i think all of these solo youth albums are good! but yeah, body/head miiiiight be the winner.

the licht/ranaldo twin guitar action on lee's record is very tasty

haven't listened to the body/head yet, but i just started a gig at the local record shop and was jamming the ranaldo all weekend. i think it's real good; a laid-back guitar-burner.

I need to hear the new Lee; been swamped with other stuff.

Body/Head started strong, over time it's lost something though. Its powerful - but. Like I love noise but this is getting increasing brutal to hear.

Now the body/head/gate album? I can roll with that anytime

new Lee > Body/Head > Chelsea imo. Lee getting custody of Steve is kind of a clincher for me, though.

picked up the 2LP of Body/Head yesterday - apparently the CD is impossible to find for some reason?

I like this soooo much more than the song-based stuff Thurston and Lee have been doing, but I haven't heard the new Lee just the older one. Pure noise on some of these pieces!

yeah it's pretty good....i like lee's stuff because i think he has good songs...most of CLM turned out to be crap imo

yeah I'm not even gonna listen to that one, I guess I was referring to the previous TM song-based CD, whatever that was.

I am a big Thurston fan, but that CLM record is just so damn slight. Maybe it was the record he needed to make at the time, which is cool, and live it was fun enough, but the only song I got any real kick out of was "Alighted". The Lee records have plenty of things to recommend, but the Body/Head record, whilst not something I will pull on very often, I find to be actually great. Pretty inspiring stuff, glad for Kim that it was so well received (though of course some of the press was obviously fueled by the breakup, it is still cool that the talking points still had to come back to this unruly beast of an album).

one thing I was thinking about when listening to the Body/Head 2LP was an old Albini rant that was like "why don't more bands try to sound like Metal Urbain or the Smashchords?" the record doesn't really sound like anything else, I mean what's the last LP that is just 2 electric guitars and vocals that I've heard? Charalambides, I guess, now that I think of that I see why I dig this new Kim joint so much.

The Sarin Smoke album is pretty cool, which is Pete Swanson and Tom Carter, but no vocals. I guess there are lots of two guitar records without vocals, but yeah Charalambides comes to mind as something in the realm.

the whole body/head record is pretty amazing, but the last two long ones are next level. definitely the best SY-related record of 2013.

so good, I love those spiky noisy textured guitars

clm was v good live

Am really digging The Rising Tide off Lee's new one

The answer is Lee.

I am a big Thurston fan, but that CLM record is just so damn slight. Maybe it was the record he needed to make at the time, which is cool, and live it was fun enough, but the only song I got any real kick out of was "Alighted". The Lee records have plenty of things to recommend, but the Body/Head record, whilst not something I will pull on very often, I find to be actually great. Pretty inspiring stuff, glad for Kim that it was so well received (though of course some of the press was obviously fueled by the breakup, it is still cool that the talking points still had to come back to this unruly beast of an album).

― grandavis, Wednesday, November 6, 2013 2:40 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is otm. all of Thurston's singer-songwriter solo records seemed to have such a heartfelt, autobiographical aspect, to a greater degree than most of his SY songs, and then the Chelsea Light Moving record just has none of that. kind of in the same way Kim is letting it all out in her new record and her interviews while Thurston doesn't wanna answer any questions about anything.

is Kim really talking much about the split, etc, other than that Elle interview? not seen much in the press for the awesome body/head record where she's talked about her personal life, and when i interviewed her a month or so ago, she wasn't exactly an open book.

Well, she's about to publish her memoirs...

she's barely begun to write them!

Oh. ha! I just remember reading 'memoirs' and my brain filled in the rest. Anyway, gossip aside, this should be great. Kim rules

Yeah maybe interviewS plural is a stretch but the one interview was still a pretty big deal

Oh, that interview was the bomb, but I also think that interview is why she hasn't really talked about stuff since then. anyone go to kim's exhibition in new york recently?

has ANYBODY listened to the new dead C, FUCK.

i have heard the new dead c. it is as good as all their other good albs.

do people like the new Ranaldo more than last years? Haven't heard either

Yeah I prefer the new one, feels looser and more road tested, very Murray Street in some of its long jams

I still haven't spent enough time with that Ranaldo record. I just wasn't ready for it when it came out, but enjoyed it well enough when I gave it a listen. How is the live band these days, anyone seen a recent show?

Agree with your thoughts in re Thurston solo stuff some dude. He seems to be understandably in a weird place right now. I thought CLM was pretty good live, the songs that were really throwaway were OK live, and some other stuff cooked a little more than on record (again, "Alighted" was the one that stuck out for me most). Probably the best part of the show though were the jokes and banter. He seemed to be having a lot of fun, which I guess he is welcome to. Still hope for better shit in the future. Best Thurston thing I have seen/heard (not in person mind you) in the last few years was his duo set with Loren Connors from The Stone.

'Thurston Moore Band' playing in London tonight, featuring Deb Google, Steve Shelley and James Sedwards. A lot better than CLM, imo. First couple of songs were pretty long and Sonic Nurse-y. Album out in October.

cool! yeah CLM hasn't really stuck with me that much tbh. saw thurston play some of these songs solo a few weeks back and it all sounded good.

lol Deb Google

Ah bollocks, I typed that manually and everything. Fucking android phone. They played 2 sets, which were the same 5 songs. I'm not complaining.

album is VERY murray street/sonic nurse, and pretty good

Oh man, that is good news. Murray St. and Sonic Nurse both explored much better territory for Thurston than the Chelsea Light Moving material (imo).

Yeah, definitely exciting news to hear more of that type of material, though I think I liked CLM more than most here.

did he moved to London?

http://thequietus.com/articles/15445-thurston-moore-stoke-newington-sonic-youth

can we dream of a collaboration with Kevin Shields?

Thurston Moore, Lee Renaldo, Steve Shelley and Kim Gordon should form a supergroup.

yeah.

I mean, he has Shelley in his band alreay. bring Renaldo and recreate sonic youth again (fuck Kim)

no kim = not sonic youth

no kim = not sonic youth

― i was a downy lad, and twee (stevie), Friday, August 15, 2014 3:08 PM (28 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so call it another name. whatever

Sonic Youth, feat. Kim Gordon.

agreed, and The Switch is my favorite of theirs so far

Oh, thanks. I'm loving this so far.

Although it was released in summer, it felt really right for the cold, grey winter day.

yeah, this is good, I'd only listened to the first album before this and didn't really like it much

i've enjoyed the thurston / lee post-SY solo stuff i've heard, but it usually makes me just want to listen to SY. body/head definitely is more interesting / involving. need to dig in more with the new one.

Body/Head is like the first Sonic Youth anything I really fucks with after the SST era

I dug the set I play Thurston (and his band) play last month — felt like an hour-long version of “Elegy for All the Dead Rock Stars.”

(Should’ve read over that before hitting “post.”)

The Switch is no joke. I wrote about it back in July:

https://www.spin.com/2018/07/body-head-the-switch-review/

thanks, Raymond! I enjoyed reading that

Ha, we have opposite seasonal responses to this album!:

Consciously or unconsciously, Body/Head’s latest is indisputably an album for or about summertime, a No Wave mirror held up to our present, perspiring moment.