DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived post-Murdoch era

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Running over time and budget is something all parties excel at.

The Parvenu Fucktard (onimo), Saturday, 25 May 2013 14:09 (ten years ago) link

yeah it's terrible the way labour used to get all these big it and infrastructure problems in on time and under budget, and now look at the mess we're in

caek, Saturday, 25 May 2013 14:23 (ten years ago) link

All true but trying to think of the last attempt by a Labour government to do something as big as Universal Credit, let alone fuck it up

Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 May 2013 14:39 (ten years ago) link

UKBA?

caek, Saturday, 25 May 2013 14:43 (ten years ago) link

NHS records digitization

caek, Saturday, 25 May 2013 14:44 (ten years ago) link

But are they as big as the entire benefits system?

Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 May 2013 14:45 (ten years ago) link

the NHS one was may have been a smaller budget but was probably more complicated

caek, Saturday, 25 May 2013 14:46 (ten years ago) link

Dunno, it's not like a Labour government to try anything too ambitious, got to worry what Paul Dacre might think of it

Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 May 2013 14:48 (ten years ago) link

Possibly yes. xp = tbf its not just the govt projects. IT projects in the private sector fail quite badly too, for various factors.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 25 May 2013 14:48 (ten years ago) link

and they fucked the nhs thing up for like ten years, not a couple.

my point is basically none of the parties are realistic in the slightest about these things, but the actual incompetence problem is institutional to the civil service

caek, Saturday, 25 May 2013 14:49 (ten years ago) link

feel like all these c words should sit down with a copy of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month before they're allowed to spend more money on it than the cost of an ipad

caek, Saturday, 25 May 2013 14:50 (ten years ago) link

I saw a review of the reissue of that in The Observer a couple of months ago.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 25 May 2013 14:52 (ten years ago) link

it's great. totally readable if you're not a computer person. a+ recommended.

caek, Saturday, 25 May 2013 14:54 (ten years ago) link

MP Patrick Mercer has resigned the Conservative Party whip.

Mr Mercer is a former shadow defence minister who has represented Newark since 2001.

The former Army officer was sacked from the Conservative frontbench by David Cameron in 2007 after allegedly racist comments.

The BBC understands his decision to quit is in connection with a lobbying story being pursued by Panorama, scheduled to go out on Thursday.

Mark G, Friday, 31 May 2013 11:12 (ten years ago) link

In November 2011, the press reported that Mercer had been taped making disparaging remarks about David Cameron, calling him "despicable" and describing him as an "arse" and "the worst politician in British history since William Gladstone". The same articles claimed he had predicted that Cameron would be ousted by Conservative MPs in early 2012. Mercer later denied making the comments

Matt DC, Friday, 31 May 2013 11:18 (ten years ago) link

The worst politician since Gladstone is quite a claim.

Matt DC, Friday, 31 May 2013 11:20 (ten years ago) link

Was he bad then, ol' Gladdo?

Mark G, Friday, 31 May 2013 11:28 (ten years ago) link

The Tories certainly thought so cos he kept beating them in elections.

Neil S, Friday, 31 May 2013 11:28 (ten years ago) link

Well, by that reckoning they must think Brazil are a terrible football team.

Mark G, Friday, 31 May 2013 11:35 (ten years ago) link

who is the Downing Street Shagger?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greenslade/2013/jun/02/mailonsunday-davidcameron

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 2 June 2013 14:29 (ten years ago) link

John Prescott & Anne Widecombe. Calling it now.

Troughton-masked Replicant (aldo), Sunday, 2 June 2013 16:47 (ten years ago) link

i may ever cease vomiting

waterprick (stevie), Sunday, 2 June 2013 17:02 (ten years ago) link

Lead theory on Twitter this afternoon is Samantha Cameron and Boris Johnson. Allegations as to parenthood of a child.

This one seems popular.

Followed by Hague and mystery man.

not_goodwin, Sunday, 2 June 2013 17:25 (ten years ago) link

ach gott mein eyes

bob_sleigher (darraghmac), Sunday, 2 June 2013 17:26 (ten years ago) link

Cameron's wife and Boris is just too hilarious to be true. Also, virtually logistically impossible.

Dream scenario would be Clegg and someone but I understand they're both Tories.

Matt DC, Sunday, 2 June 2013 17:35 (ten years ago) link

1) pick two random Tories
2) imagine 'scenario'
3) vom

go cray cray on my lobster soufflé (snoball), Sunday, 2 June 2013 17:38 (ten years ago) link

not in cabinet but important enough to be a big deal? how many candidates can there be?

meanwhile, pro tip for members of the upper house. if a dude you've never met before offers you a bag full of cash to plug his business interests, you might wanna check see if he's wearing a wire.

floored character (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 2 June 2013 17:39 (ten years ago) link

Cameron's wife and Nigel Farage?

Why can't the Mail disclose who they are "for legal reasons"? Because no source is willing to speak up and they'd be sued for libel?

Random ASMR Memories (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 2 June 2013 17:39 (ten years ago) link

implication is there's a superinjunction in place

floored character (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 2 June 2013 17:41 (ten years ago) link

which rules out any member of the Cameron household imo

floored character (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 2 June 2013 17:44 (ten years ago) link

My first thought was Liam Fox, there's a lot of smoke around that guy at pretty much all times, plus he was running the MoD, although that would be too public-interest for a superinjunction. Maybe Bercow-related?

Boris having an extramarital affair hardly constitutes a 'dynamite revelation' really.

Matt DC, Sunday, 2 June 2013 17:57 (ten years ago) link

whole thing feels a bit overplayed by the Mail hacks, wonder if there's some actual bad news they want burying

Doctor Who's on first (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 2 June 2013 18:01 (ten years ago) link

Dream scenario would be Clegg and someone but I understand they're both Tories.

splittin hairs there Matt

waterprick (stevie), Sunday, 2 June 2013 18:05 (ten years ago) link

x-post

What, that they're all doing the cash for questions fiddle.

not_goodwin, Sunday, 2 June 2013 18:06 (ten years ago) link

It has been said that they are middle-aged figures and that the affair has now concluded. It does not involve anyone serving in the cabinet.

Boris having an extramarital affair hardly constitutes a 'dynamite revelation' really.

Yeah, surely Boris having a dalliance is on the dog-bites-man end of the news spectrum?

emil.y, Sunday, 2 June 2013 18:08 (ten years ago) link

This guy must not think anything of long prison sentences.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpr7WUf9cyE

not_goodwin, Sunday, 2 June 2013 18:08 (ten years ago) link

This guy must not think anything

waterprick (stevie), Sunday, 2 June 2013 18:16 (ten years ago) link

ps is that david quantick y/n?

waterprick (stevie), Sunday, 2 June 2013 18:17 (ten years ago) link

i want that guy sending down just cos he sets the crepe detector thru the roof tbh

Doctor Who's on first (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 2 June 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link

Nathan Barley?

hewing to the status quo with great zealotry (DavidM), Sunday, 2 June 2013 18:24 (ten years ago) link

I guess we just have to wait for tomorrow's French/Italian/American papers to be published

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 2 June 2013 18:28 (ten years ago) link

they're not politicians but they're close to the pm

http://orderorder.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/acrb.png

clue's in the link

prolego, Sunday, 2 June 2013 18:41 (ten years ago) link

Going to spend the rest of my evening watching all that guy's youtube videos.

oppet, Sunday, 2 June 2013 18:41 (ten years ago) link

(two pairs of initials in the html)

(this is the clue i'm seeing being floated around)

they're not politicians but i guess this posed a conflict of interest?

prolego, Sunday, 2 June 2013 18:42 (ten years ago) link

OH SHIT.

Matt DC, Sunday, 2 June 2013 18:46 (ten years ago) link

If it is them, is it really something that could 'bring down Cameron'?

oppet, Sunday, 2 June 2013 18:48 (ten years ago) link

Alan Carr and Rebecca Black?!?!?!

emil.y, Sunday, 2 June 2013 18:49 (ten years ago) link

AHAAAHAAAHAHAAH

Too late to never become the story, but still, if that's true....

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 2 June 2013 18:49 (ten years ago) link


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