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I thought Nasim was great early on, but she's gotten so little screentime lately i can't even remember the last time she stood out in anything.

my mans ray manzarek (some dude), Sunday, 26 May 2013 15:09 (ten years ago) link

though man the more i think about armisen's jack-off sayonara the more i hate it. "Wow, 10 years of playing every race...but in the end, I write shitty songs and have some gen-x rocker pals. Thank you."

― da croupier, Sunday, May 26, 2013 10:32 AM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I thought the tie-in with Carrie Brownstein's AMEX ad was a nice touch.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Sunday, 26 May 2013 15:28 (ten years ago) link

ha i still haven't seen that

da croupier, Sunday, 26 May 2013 15:42 (ten years ago) link

though man the more i think about armisen's jack-off sayonara the more i hate it.

I hope the maudlin farewell doesn't become a regular SNL feature, it's kind of gross. And I'm pretty sick of Armisen in the context of SNL as it is, so just leave so I can forget about you before Portlandia comes back.

lake spirits materializing (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 26 May 2013 23:26 (ten years ago) link

I kind of felt like Kristen Wiig deserved a sendoff, but Armisen got his own because nobody had any better sketch ideas.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 26 May 2013 23:27 (ten years ago) link

yeah but Wiig's actual sendoff was turrible

my mans ray manzarek (some dude), Sunday, 26 May 2013 23:28 (ten years ago) link

trying to remember if they 'did' anything for carvey's exit or if was just a big deal in the press (eg THE COVER OF ROLLING STONE). phil hartman's the only cast member before that i can remember getting a specific farewell like wiig's (vs something like those last couple of digital shorts samberg did or stefon's wedding)(and tbh i thought stefon's wedding was gonna work as a farewell for hader and myers until i heard myers isn't leaving until halfway thru next season). and wiig's made sense - god know fbofw she carried that show on her back for a few years and she came back for a full season after a huge hit movie even though she'd definitely done her time.

balls, Sunday, 26 May 2013 23:34 (ten years ago) link

Carvey's last appearance as a cast member was as Prince Charles turning himself into a human tampon. No send-off.

pplains, Sunday, 26 May 2013 23:51 (ten years ago) link

Phil Hartman's sendoff was a little song he sang with Chris Farley's head on his shoulder seated on the steps center stage with a spotlight. It was sweet.

Now they're both dead, which makes it really bittersweet.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 27 May 2013 00:09 (ten years ago) link

i think people knowing they definitely wouldn't be back in the fall by the time of the season finale was just less common back then. Hartman knew because NBC had already picked up Newsradio.

my mans ray manzarek (some dude), Monday, 27 May 2013 00:13 (ten years ago) link

A couple other big sendoffs:

Jimmy Fallon: Got a Grease-inspired musical skit at the end of his last ep, w/Tina Fey as Sandy.

Will Ferrell: Mock-retrospective skit, complete with testimonial from recent cast re-addition Chris Parnell about Will got him back on the show, topped with Ferrell admitting he got Parnell fired in the first place.

Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 27 May 2013 00:26 (ten years ago) link

poor Parnell, only guy to get fired from SNL twice.

my mans ray manzarek (some dude), Monday, 27 May 2013 00:33 (ten years ago) link

o right i forgot fallon's sendoff, should've known that the son lorne never had sure as hell was getting a sendoff

balls, Monday, 27 May 2013 00:38 (ten years ago) link

parnell's probably had one of my five fave post-snl careers and he's never remotely been the lead in anything i've loved him in

balls, Monday, 27 May 2013 00:40 (ten years ago) link

yeah i wouldn't be surprised if he never has a lead role in anything bigger than a 10 minute sketch or web short, that's just the kinda guy he is

my mans ray manzarek (some dude), Monday, 27 May 2013 00:42 (ten years ago) link

In a parallel universe, the best send-off would be the film of John Belushi dancing on their graves.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 27 May 2013 00:43 (ten years ago) link

let me think - julia louis-dreyfus, will ferrell, tina fey, eddie murphy, do i put parnell ahead of chase and aykroyd and o wait bill murray ok so parnell's not one of my top five fave post-snl careers but still

balls, Monday, 27 May 2013 00:44 (ten years ago) link

Sending off Darryl Hammond, who I hated, with that bizarre "Goodnight Saigon" sing-a-long was one of my favorites.

The last "classic" Lorne season, 1979-80, ended with everyone all crying onstage with a final shot of the "ON THE AIR" light flickering off.

pplains, Monday, 27 May 2013 01:47 (ten years ago) link

it never even occurred to me that the "Goodnight Saigon" sketch was Hammond's last, just seemed like standard 'weird' Will Ferrell showcase

my mans ray manzarek (some dude), Monday, 27 May 2013 01:52 (ten years ago) link

huh didn't know that. was 'goodnight saigon' a sendoff for hammond really, chalked it up to pure ferrell insanity, even if the premise is standard sketch material - guy who has vietnam flashbacks visited as a tourist like two years ago - the execution was pure ferrell esp w/ the billy joel element. was thinking earlier that it would probably be more fun for the audience and maybe the cast member if they'd just let them do some sketch they could never get on the show in that last ten to one slot.

balls, Monday, 27 May 2013 01:58 (ten years ago) link

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balls, Monday, 27 May 2013 01:58 (ten years ago) link

it certainly wasn't a farewell like Wiig's or Hartman's, but there was some sort of sly "this is my last night in New York" line from D.H.

pplains, Monday, 27 May 2013 02:54 (ten years ago) link

i'm cool with send-offs but christ at least make them cast-centric if not funny. let fred reaffirm his friendship with aimee mann on his own show.

da croupier, Monday, 27 May 2013 02:59 (ten years ago) link

i mean it's a 90 minute show, if you've been on it for 5+ years we got time for a group hug

da croupier, Monday, 27 May 2013 03:03 (ten years ago) link

eh i figured that was the one shot of seeing most of those ppl onstage on snl, almost as much 'goodbye generation x' as 'goodbye fred'.

balls, Monday, 27 May 2013 03:05 (ten years ago) link

when will Michael Penn write the true "goodbye generation x" send-off

pplains, Monday, 27 May 2013 03:07 (ten years ago) link

ha now that you say it, Armisen actually is (and probably will always remain) the last SNL cast member who was bron in the '60s

my mans ray manzarek (some dude), Monday, 27 May 2013 03:07 (ten years ago) link

i do love that arguably the person fewest people would recognize (definitely the least current cachet) was the only one with a solo top 40 hit

da croupier, Monday, 27 May 2013 03:10 (ten years ago) link

not to mention a best new artist grammy!

da croupier, Monday, 27 May 2013 03:11 (ten years ago) link

haha wait doublecked, that was MTV best new artist. Still!

da croupier, Monday, 27 May 2013 03:12 (ten years ago) link

pretty sure Penn was the only one out of the bunch who was ever a musical guest on SNL too!

my mans ray manzarek (some dude), Monday, 27 May 2013 03:17 (ten years ago) link

i think he may have been a guest twice - i know his brother got him the gig when he hosted during what i think was the anthony michael hall year and i think he may have been back circa 'no myth'.

balls, Monday, 27 May 2013 03:35 (ten years ago) link

imdb says he only appeared that one time his bro hosted, which actually 1987, though that was still a year or two before No Myth. Man, if it wasn't for that, letting the host's brother co-musical guest with LL Cool J would be even more hilarious

da croupier, Monday, 27 May 2013 03:39 (ten years ago) link

credited as "Michael Penn & The Pull"

da croupier, Monday, 27 May 2013 03:40 (ten years ago) link

ll did 'go cut creator go' and it was awesome iirc

balls, Monday, 27 May 2013 03:41 (ten years ago) link

ll never came back, i wonder if it's because he had to give the second slot to the host's unsigned brother despite going platinum

da croupier, Monday, 27 May 2013 03:45 (ten years ago) link

I wonder if MP's SNL gig helped get him a deal.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 27 May 2013 03:55 (ten years ago) link

i don't know, he'd been doing studio work behind the scenes for a few year by then

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C9Bng7NPPY

balls, Monday, 27 May 2013 04:21 (ten years ago) link

Will Ferrell: Mock-retrospective skit, complete with testimonial from recent cast re-addition Chris Parnell about Will got him back on the show, topped with Ferrell admitting he got Parnell fired in the first place.

― Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, May 26, 2013 8:26 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

There were tons of send-offy sketches on Ferrell's last show. Practically everyone he'd done an impression of showed up: Alex Trebek, Robert Goulet, Neil Diamond (the latter of whom either was an insanely good sport, or never saw Ferrell's impression).

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Monday, 27 May 2013 04:54 (ten years ago) link

Mike Myers didn't get much of a send-off, did he? He left halfway through the 94-95 season and barely appeared in his final episode.

mimicking regular benevloent (sic) users' names (President Keyes), Monday, 27 May 2013 12:43 (ten years ago) link

Don't forget the sketch where Farley, Sandler, and Jay Mohr ended their runs by jumping into the Polar Bear pit!

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 23:50 (ten years ago) link

I wish Armisen's final episode was a 90-minute Californians sketch

polyphonic, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 23:55 (ten years ago) link

here's hoping they won't attempt to continue the Californians w/o Armisen and Hader

some dude, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 23:58 (ten years ago) link

farley and sandler were fired after the season at nbc's behest so that definitely wasn't meant to be a send off

balls, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 00:23 (ten years ago) link

oh for real? why'd they get canned?

Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 00:38 (ten years ago) link

this was during the saturday night dead era (which i suspect might be better than it's rep and just suffered from being in the immediate shadow of the best era of snl) so ratings and rep were poor and nbc was untouchable in primetime w/ must see tv and more importantly had scored a huge huge success w/ friends which apparently the suits had had heavy involvement in developing and so they felt they knew everything and iirc this was probably the time the balance of power between lorne and the suits was most out of whack - they were suggesting not doing it live (which would save a ton of money), using phil hartman's clinton on leno (this happened), other crazy stuff. also new blood w/ specific demand that sandler, farley, and tim meadows be fired (which is odd cuz sandler and i believe farley had had some movie success by this point), michaels managed to save meadows job (i don't know if it was cuz he figured sandler and farley would be just fine or if he recognized meadows as a hartman glue type). i would also guess that network may have said 'hire more women' (this was also in the immediate aftermath of the garofalo stuff in the press and some sexual harrassment claims about farley) though maybe michaels took the initiative there. i don't know if there was any bad blood as a result - farley came back to host very shortly before he died (i've never caught a rerun but i recall there were alot of jokes about how it was obv chris farley was going to die soon) but sandler's never hosted and somehow, unlike w/ eddie murphy, his not coming back has not been remarked on much in the press or whatever.

balls, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 01:04 (ten years ago) link

yeah Billy Madison and Tommy Boy were both #1 at the box office in the months before they were fired. i don't think anyone really had a concept of how popular they were or would be, though, especially Sandler.

some dude, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 01:06 (ten years ago) link

alec baldwin has a line in the oral history about how he never imagined some of the cast members he worked w/ would become movie stars and it's pretty apparent he's talking about sandler. interesting to me also that michaels produced tommy boy and black sheep but didn't produce any of the sandler movies even though there were definitely snl ppl - sandler and mcdonald and farley obv but also robert smigel and jim downey and tim herlihy - involved w/ billy madison. maybe there's bad blood there but there have been plenty of ppl whose exits or stays were less than graceful who came back at some point - ben stiller, chris rock, hell even norm macdonald came back to sing 'goodnight saigon'.

balls, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 01:19 (ten years ago) link

Lorne-produced movie careers so rarely work out well, kinda makes sense that Sandler did so well without that 'help.' but weird to think that Lorne was evidently not too hot on Sandler considering that his mini-me Fallon was later his golden boy.

some dude, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 01:34 (ten years ago) link

billy madison-happy gilmore-wedding singer straight classics in my book, no shame in saying it. will rep for 50 first dates to some extent also (not the soundtrack though). beyond that (and not counting punchdrunk love or funny ppl or whatever outlier) not so much, though i do figure he's paid for at least a couple of steve buscemi and john turturro's homes and grown ups has a great soundtrack (movie is horrid).

balls, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 01:44 (ten years ago) link


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