http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/may/28/birth-royal-baby-kate-middleton
this is the kind of thing that really bugs me. like... if this "media frenzy" is so annoying then surely the guardian can do something better than pointlessly pre-empting it with articles like this?
― ... (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 11:03 (ten years ago) link
it's no fun having a cake if you can't eat it too, is what i take from pieces like this
― media conglomerates are pedaling the same product (stevie), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 11:25 (ten years ago) link
in what sense do you mean?
― ... (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 11:32 (ten years ago) link
that the media frenzy is annoying, but that taking part in it somehow will still yields pageviews and therefore ££s
― media conglomerates are pedaling the same product (stevie), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 11:36 (ten years ago) link
yeah, taking part in it while criticising it is just the pits tho, imo, not least since the entire aim of the piece is to congratulate your readers for how above it all they are.
― ... (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 11:39 (ten years ago) link
this is how Graun readers live
― the league against cool sports (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 12:42 (ten years ago) link
Boya Dee for Editor
― nashwan, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 12:49 (ten years ago) link
the article isnt great and prophylactic disinterest in a forthcoming hyped event is usually tiresome
i still feel instinctively pleased when anyone in a broadsheeet newspaper disparages the royal family and their vile entourage
― ghosts of erith spectral crackhouse slain rudeboy (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Thursday, 30 May 2013 00:43 (ten years ago) link
A quick search on the #guardiancoffee is providing much entertainment right now.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 30 May 2013 10:19 (ten years ago) link
ffs
― ... (LocalGarda), Thursday, 30 May 2013 10:34 (ten years ago) link
idgi
― I turned away to leave these few in thought and contemplation (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 30 May 2013 10:39 (ten years ago) link
they're opening a coffee shop
― ... (LocalGarda), Thursday, 30 May 2013 10:42 (ten years ago) link
Huh.
― I turned away to leave these few in thought and contemplation (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 30 May 2013 10:42 (ten years ago) link
http://jobs.guardian.co.uk/job/4646957/retail-operations-manager/
― Neil S, Thursday, 30 May 2013 10:43 (ten years ago) link
cue much guffawing at pretentious grim-up-North-London flat white sipping Guardianistas.
― Neil S, Thursday, 30 May 2013 10:44 (ten years ago) link
boxpark tho, jesus.
― ... (LocalGarda), Thursday, 30 May 2013 10:47 (ten years ago) link
I believe there are big screens that show up every tweet with the #guardiancoffee hashtag. Even feebs like the Telegraph realised that was a terrible idea years ago.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 30 May 2013 10:51 (ten years ago) link
That's my hope of doing my job well today down the drain.
― ... (LocalGarda), Thursday, 30 May 2013 10:53 (ten years ago) link
They had one of these on Farringdon Road, but the obvious proximity to Grub Street and the actual genesis of the free press in coffee houses not far from there must have looked too much like the kind of historical relevance unlikely to trouble your average reactionary trollboy.
― on the sidelines dishing out sass (suzy), Thursday, 30 May 2013 11:14 (ten years ago) link
The whole "we'll display everything under this hashtag" approach is such a rudimentary social media clanger though, unless the Graun were taking this all into account and just want the attention, which is possible.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 30 May 2013 11:22 (ten years ago) link
It's not a huge clanger imo - it does get them a lot of attention. Who can even say what attention is negative or positive these days?
Like say that Waitrose thing, I reckon that worked well for them despite all the bile.
― ... (LocalGarda), Thursday, 30 May 2013 11:23 (ten years ago) link
apparently the hashtag display is premoderated?
anyway this is such a tacky idea, i don't get who is supposed to be into it.
― ✌_✌ (c sharp major), Thursday, 30 May 2013 11:27 (ten years ago) link
even if you ignore the kind of weird and yeah, tacky nature of the idea, the location is horrible and looks to be failing too, empty shops there in recent months and it's not even on brand for them. boxpark is like zoo mag, not the guardian.
― ... (LocalGarda), Thursday, 30 May 2013 11:36 (ten years ago) link
I guess Boxpark is cheaper and lower risk than setting up anywhere else though?
― Matt DC, Thursday, 30 May 2013 11:37 (ten years ago) link
Would you say it's cheap? I'd imagine it could be pricey, unless there's a subsidy coming from Boxfresh. Probably cheap relative to anything else on Shoreditch High St I guess?
― ... (LocalGarda), Thursday, 30 May 2013 11:38 (ten years ago) link
With Boxpark, my main feeling is that AT LAST the lesser-spotted East London twink does not have to go to Covent Garden to buy Firetrap schmutter.
― on the sidelines dishing out sass (suzy), Thursday, 30 May 2013 11:38 (ten years ago) link
Again, even Shoreditch feels a weird location for them - kind of depressed former hipster zone.
You'd think I'd like it when I describe it that way but no.
― ... (LocalGarda), Thursday, 30 May 2013 11:39 (ten years ago) link
Yeah I mean the rent is probably not that much cheaper than the rest of the area but they're not going to be lumbered with a big lease or anything because the whole place is inherently short-term.
Again, even Shoreditch feels a weird location for them - kind of depressed former hipster zone
It's full of offices though, way more than Dalston or wherever.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 30 May 2013 11:41 (ten years ago) link
― Matt DC, Thursday, 30 May 2013 11:22 (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
given that at times their online model seems to prize bad, misinformed articles which get hundreds of BTL comments picking them apart to good, closely argued ones which get a few dozen murmurs of approval, this wouldn't be terribly surprising
― warm leveret (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 30 May 2013 11:42 (ten years ago) link
Yeah I wouldn't imagine them in Dalston, like Farringdon or whatever is surely their spiritual (central) home, but presumably way too expensive and probably far too much good competition.
― ... (LocalGarda), Thursday, 30 May 2013 11:43 (ten years ago) link
All the best coffee in London seems to be between my place and Farringdon - two places on Leather Lane alone are easily top 10.
― on the sidelines dishing out sass (suzy), Thursday, 30 May 2013 11:44 (ten years ago) link
Yeah those Leather Lane places are great, but I doubt that 'best coffee in London' is really the Graun's core concern here.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 30 May 2013 11:46 (ten years ago) link
I know what you mean - but even that is weird too. Like, what is their concern? A place for tourists to come to? That seems the most logical explanation.
― ... (LocalGarda), Thursday, 30 May 2013 11:47 (ten years ago) link
I suppose it's general brand-building, of a kind that could potentially pay for itself.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 30 May 2013 11:53 (ten years ago) link
Given that there's a bar / cafe in their own building, i'd have thought King's Cross might be a decent place to set it up. King's Place is about 90% there in terms of being a really good social / cultural space.
― хуто-хуторянка (ShariVari), Thursday, 30 May 2013 11:54 (ten years ago) link
yeah it's quite an impressive building.
― ... (LocalGarda), Thursday, 30 May 2013 12:23 (ten years ago) link
i mean, as offices go.
pics here
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/a-big-day-out-atthe-guardian-data-driven-coffee-shop
the mind boggles
― caek, Thursday, 30 May 2013 15:24 (ten years ago) link
expert trolling by guardiancoffee
Oh wait, so #guardiancoffee tweets are shown on screen in this place? And it's already open? Right, igi now.
― I turned away to leave these few in thought and contemplation (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 30 May 2013 15:32 (ten years ago) link
Thankin u mr vice man
Not sure Vice really has the moral high ground here given that they've run the fucking Old Blue Last as their house venue for the past however many years.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 30 May 2013 16:00 (ten years ago) link
oh true. vice has the moral high ground in no situations. just posting that for the pics.
― caek, Thursday, 30 May 2013 16:05 (ten years ago) link
there is no moral high ground, only pageviews
― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Thursday, 30 May 2013 16:05 (ten years ago) link
to be fair, this got people clicking. it's not every newspaper that bothers to seek out stories that make people's right index finger move downwards by less than a centimetre.
― ... (LocalGarda), Thursday, 30 May 2013 16:13 (ten years ago) link
Well Nathan Barley
― Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 May 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link
do they have sky sports tho
― I turned away to leave these few in thought and contemplation (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 30 May 2013 16:33 (ten years ago) link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/lostinshowbiz/2013/jun/06/team-tulisa-contostavlos-cocaine-arrest
^^standing and applauding
― lex pretend, Friday, 7 June 2013 09:20 (ten years ago) link
I wish she'd write stuff like that more often.
― Matt DC, Friday, 7 June 2013 09:24 (ten years ago) link