indefensible: john gruber

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does he have RSS feed? If not, he doesn't exist

now is not the time for motorboating (dandydonweiner), Friday, 31 May 2013 03:21 (ten years ago) link

He's made an app! http://www.macworld.com/article/2040883/meet-vesper-a-notes-app-with-an-all-star-development-team.html#tk.twt_jsnell

Making iOS software that doesn't sync is ... it's like making a phone where you can only call people in the same room. Or something.

stet, Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:21 (ten years ago) link

hmmmm just saw this

markers, Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:23 (ten years ago) link

"Q Branch"
"Vesper"
"mediocrely"

Operation Gypsy Dildo (silby), Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:38 (ten years ago) link

lol @ The Incomparable in screenshiot

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 6 June 2013 17:18 (ten years ago) link

Am I horrible in hoping some ill befalls this?

Millsner, Thursday, 6 June 2013 17:22 (ten years ago) link

No, because apps die a silent death and rarely get an obit.

There's nothing worse than people who think that we can design our way out of every user problem.

now is not the time for motorboating (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 6 June 2013 18:30 (ten years ago) link

"yeah there are already a million apps out there who solve the note taking non-problem on apps, but there's not a UI good enough for our immaculate taste, so we had to design one ourselves. It's by us for us unless you all are willing to raise your standards."

now is not the time for motorboating (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 6 June 2013 18:32 (ten years ago) link

his obsession with james bond might be the dorkiest thing about him

diamonddave85, Thursday, 6 June 2013 18:49 (ten years ago) link

who's bought it?

markers, Thursday, 6 June 2013 18:55 (ten years ago) link

who would?

now is not the time for motorboating (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 6 June 2013 18:59 (ten years ago) link

the greatest thing about next week would be if Apple would grant a trial-basis for app downloads

most apps do not see engagement beyond 2 weeks. This would clean up the app store a lot.

now is not the time for motorboating (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:00 (ten years ago) link

i haven't bought it yet but i would and might

markers, Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link

not that i'd necessarily use it regularly

markers, Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link

should be a 99c app

diamonddave85, Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:04 (ten years ago) link

should be a free evaluation and if it is a solution for me, I would buy it.

this idea that we have to spend a dollar to evaluate everything is stupid

now is not the time for motorboating (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:15 (ten years ago) link

i would have grubes on my app team cause now people will buy it

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:33 (ten years ago) link

lol definitely

wait until he links to it

markers, Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link

the one guy designs it i code it and grubes he links

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:36 (ten years ago) link

ppl let him beta test all kinds of helvetica-heavy shit that he links to

Operation Gypsy Dildo (silby), Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:45 (ten years ago) link

Gruber: Bond’s gadgets have always been at the intersection of utility and elegance. Serve a necessary purpose, reliably, and look good doing it. That’s as good a motto for a software company as any.

yes gruber, you are comparable to bond

fucking james bond

the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 6 June 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link

hoping it gets a feature that lets you wedgie gruber's underpants over his head

the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 6 June 2013 21:20 (ten years ago) link

I don't understand the hate for this dude but likewise don't understand how he can be the number one apple blogger.
What do you guys think about kottke.org? He seems like he's in a similar group of commenter dudes who also make fonts on the side.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 6 June 2013 21:43 (ten years ago) link

Gruber is sanctimonious. Kottke just likes linking to neat things and keeps the rest to himself, IME.

Millsner, Thursday, 6 June 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link

marco has posted about this, and now i am really not sure who i hate more

the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 6 June 2013 22:56 (ten years ago) link

http://www.marco.org/2013/06/06/vesper

in which he goes on and on about balls

the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 6 June 2013 22:57 (ten years ago) link

fucking srs

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 June 2013 23:03 (ten years ago) link

wow that is just an unbelievable blog post right there

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 June 2013 23:03 (ten years ago) link

Loool at getting linked to by Marco as "resentful" for saying sync is critical when he, eh, says sync is critical. Balls.

stet, Thursday, 6 June 2013 23:33 (ten years ago) link

lmfaoooooo

乒乓, Thursday, 6 June 2013 23:34 (ten years ago) link

balls

diamonddave85, Friday, 7 June 2013 00:42 (ten years ago) link

@gruber 8h
Hacker News hasn’t had a single link to Daring Fireball in months, so I presume DF is blacklisted. But why Vesper?

the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 7 June 2013 02:18 (ten years ago) link

maybe hacker news just thinks you're a nutsack

the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 7 June 2013 02:19 (ten years ago) link

thats low

lag∞n, Friday, 7 June 2013 02:23 (ten years ago) link

just didnt get enuff upvotes to get to the front page: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5833388

diamonddave85, Friday, 7 June 2013 03:17 (ten years ago) link

the one guy designs it i code it and grubes he links

― lag∞n, Thursday, June 6, 2013 7:36 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

amazing post, so vaudeville

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 7 June 2013 05:03 (ten years ago) link

Fuckin helveticunts

sktsh, Friday, 7 June 2013 09:07 (ten years ago) link

Dr Drang otm http://www.leancrew.com/all-this/2013/06/form-and-function/

stet, Friday, 7 June 2013 12:10 (ten years ago) link

flat design

imo this should basically be the free square in your game of 2013 ux-dude buzzword bingo

scream blahula scream (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 7 June 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link

http://shawnblanc.net/2013/06/arment-vesper/

yeesh

we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Friday, 7 June 2013 19:41 (ten years ago) link

it's pretty debatable whether or not "export" is a "power user feature"

markers, Friday, 7 June 2013 19:46 (ten years ago) link

Vesper’s current lack of sync, export, etc. isn’t an oversight; it’s an intentional omission at this time.

hah no matter how hard any of them try they just cant bring themselves to justify it

lag∞n, Friday, 7 June 2013 19:54 (ten years ago) link

how is "iPad" a "power user feature"

markers, Friday, 7 June 2013 19:57 (ten years ago) link

it's another fucking hardware platform

markers, Friday, 7 June 2013 19:57 (ten years ago) link

balls, balls

lag∞n, Friday, 7 June 2013 19:57 (ten years ago) link

HOW CAN YOU SHIP THE PLAYBOOK WITHOUT AN EMAIL APP

markers, Friday, 7 June 2013 20:00 (ten years ago) link

balls balls balls

lag∞n, Friday, 7 June 2013 20:01 (ten years ago) link

http://www.marco.org/2012/01/22/rim-ceos-stepping-down

markers, Friday, 7 June 2013 20:02 (ten years ago) link

nailed it

diamonddave85, Friday, 7 June 2013 20:05 (ten years ago) link


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