It quotes an ilxor!
― Ou sont les Sonneywolferines d'antan? (Leee), Saturday, 1 June 2013 16:35 (ten years ago) link
George Packer on tech and politics is pretty awesome, which has a followup blog post. Does he always insert editorial asides into his political pieces/is he the only NYer contributor who does that, or does he save that treatment for libertarians?
― Ou sont les Sonneywolferines d'antan? (Leee), Saturday, 1 June 2013 16:38 (ten years ago) link
lemme guess, the bike in cleveland that yelled 'go back to art school, you faggots!' ?
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 1 June 2013 16:42 (ten years ago) link
**biker
hey they have updated the digital/archive edition, sorta. higher res. still jpgs.
― daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Saturday, 1 June 2013 17:12 (ten years ago) link
Ripley piece is good
― Mordy , Saturday, 1 June 2013 18:04 (ten years ago) link
― Ou sont les Sonneywolferines d'antan? (Leee), Saturday, June 1, 2013 11:38 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah this was pretty crucial reading.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 1 June 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link
ooh if it's a sequel of sorts to his libertarian billionaire one i'm looking forward to it
― k3vin k., Saturday, 1 June 2013 18:26 (ten years ago) link
http://observer.com/2013/05/things-fall-apart-in-the-unwinding-george-packer-aims-for-dos-passos-comes-up-sub-gladwell
― mookieproof, Saturday, 1 June 2013 18:27 (ten years ago) link
biggest o_O of the gordon profile was that not only can j mascis afford to live in sonic youth's neighborhood, he was there first (and drives a lexus suv?!)
― discreet, Sunday, 2 June 2013 06:40 (ten years ago) link
George Packer on tech and politics is pretty awesome,
hoping his new book is this sharp
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 2 June 2013 12:27 (ten years ago) link
― discreet, Sunday, June 2, 2013 2:40 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
j mascis is from western mass iirc
― lag∞n, Sunday, 2 June 2013 13:35 (ten years ago) link
Mascis doesn't live in the same neighborhood...he lives across the river in Amherst, where he grew up.
― Hadrian VIII, Sunday, 2 June 2013 14:07 (ten years ago) link
we need an indie star map
― lag∞n, Sunday, 2 June 2013 14:10 (ten years ago) link
https://www.google.com/maps/vt/data=Ay5GWBeob_WIPLDYoIWcfVXxvZu9XwJ55OX7Ag,16m7TKfyB_Wvm1YzMjgkb-eeGG_Pnwg6iuOisHZUfKtUshvnUcpkf5VaG3CKgO1kAFQzYO6LW-JU3Q_ra6chuCgmExB5WCyhOcm3laykqnErJQ8Hq7j5BDc5FWpSMIS4D4rqulJ5YWZBr0D5lkoDDH_GzQ5De0_R7gmi2ogjFjXZHfqivz6A5DBNwx8
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 2 June 2013 14:27 (ten years ago) link
I don't think it's an exclusive neighborhood. It's a bunch of college towns in the sticks. Wayne and Kate of Magic Hour/Twisted Village lived around there too. And Byron Coley.
― dan selzer, Sunday, 2 June 2013 14:38 (ten years ago) link
man that Ripley review brought back memories. Anyone else a fan of the Jack Palance-hosted eighties show?
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 01:44 (ten years ago) link
Anybody mention the PTSD sniper and other vet story. That was brutal.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 02:50 (ten years ago) link
Good issue last week. Agree about the sniper story, ugh.
― quincie, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 04:22 (ten years ago) link
Oh, fiction issue, thank you for delivering sweet relief.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 18:52 (ten years ago) link
big toobin fan but his NSA comment is awwwful
― daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Monday, 10 June 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link
Anyone read the fiction? The Lahiri story was okay.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2013 20:15 (ten years ago) link
echoing praise/awe for the sniper/ptsd story 2 issues ago
― http://threeframes.net (gr8080), Monday, 10 June 2013 20:18 (ten years ago) link
I'd like to hear fiction recs from someone who has read them. . . sounds like Lahiri is meh? What about the others?
― quincie, Monday, 10 June 2013 20:28 (ten years ago) link
i liked the atm password story bc it was short and kind of funny. that was the only one i read all of. the end.
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 10 June 2013 20:30 (ten years ago) link
that sniper story
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Monday, 10 June 2013 20:56 (ten years ago) link
holy fuck
that one stood out for being pretty rigorously unopinionated
i mean it allowed the sniper guy to seem like a big asshole a lot of time
and it carefully avoided a stance on whether gun ranges as therapy was a good idea
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 10 June 2013 20:57 (ten years ago) link
well it seemed so unopinionated as to BE opinionated
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Monday, 10 June 2013 20:58 (ten years ago) link
really, a good fiction issue? I feel like I haven't been thrilled by the fiction issue in years, or by almost any fiction I read in the NYer other than people I already know and love like George Saunders and Donald Antrim.
― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Monday, 10 June 2013 20:58 (ten years ago) link
like, the writerly equivalent of :|
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Monday, 10 June 2013 20:59 (ten years ago) link
not a typical news story/article because the pieces don't fit together
there's all the weird stuff about the sniper's colorful fabulations and racist good ol' boy jokes
but also about his generosity and loyalty
which never gets resolved
instead he is shot to death by some deranged soldier
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 10 June 2013 20:59 (ten years ago) link
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Monday, June 10, 2013 3:58 PM (59 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
explain
well i think it basically leaves it up to u, the reader, but it seemed to be clearly written from a POV, and the lack of editorializing was quite conspicuous
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Monday, 10 June 2013 21:01 (ten years ago) link
and i do appreciate that it is a really mess, complex story about really messy, complex characters who were made even more complicated by the horrible things they did and saw
the whole last part, about his (sister?) still going around promoting gun-therapy, seemed to not need any additional gloss.
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Monday, 10 June 2013 21:02 (ten years ago) link
i kept thinking that the sniper guy with his hatred of our elected government + racism + PTSD + delusions of heroism + pathological lying would have himself been a candidate to do something really awful under other circumstances
maybe that is committing calumny toward the dead i dunno
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 10 June 2013 21:06 (ten years ago) link
really messy, complex characters who were made even more complicated by the horrible things they did and saw
yeah the stuff about the particular psychological consequences of being a sniper is kinda unforgettable
― daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Monday, 10 June 2013 21:06 (ten years ago) link
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, June 10, 2013 5:06 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark
well he did kill 160 people
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Monday, 10 June 2013 21:17 (ten years ago) link
the whole story he made up about the superdome was pretty o_O
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 10 June 2013 21:23 (ten years ago) link
fantasies of killing black people in a righteous cause and all
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 10 June 2013 21:24 (ten years ago) link
I feel like all reporting should be as unresolved and un-fit-together as this if it's any good. If anything can save the human brain it's dissonance!
― folsom country prism (Jon Lewis), Monday, 10 June 2013 21:45 (ten years ago) link
i mean life is messy and articles should acknowledge/capture that but i see no problem with old-fashioned muckraking "this is what happened, it's awful, this is who needs to be held to account" articles are worth a lot too IMO.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 10 June 2013 21:46 (ten years ago) link
sorry for horrible grammar and incoherent sentence structure...
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 10 June 2013 21:47 (ten years ago) link
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, June 10, 2013 5:46 PM (26 seconds ago) Bookmark
imo this article is part of a larger piece and needs to be understood in the context of, well, everything that's happened since 2001.
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Monday, 10 June 2013 21:48 (ten years ago) link
the article seemed to pretty squarely place most of the blame the VA hospital that the shooter went to and the VA medical system in general though? they kept repeating the theme about how he tried to get help, said he was going to hurt people, and the hospital just kept releasing him
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 10 June 2013 21:48 (ten years ago) link
i took that as a metonymous indictment of "the whole damn system" that put him where he was
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Monday, 10 June 2013 21:50 (ten years ago) link
would any hospital have done significantly different, VA or no?
― folsom country prism (Jon Lewis), Monday, 10 June 2013 21:50 (ten years ago) link
yeah apparently he was too sane to be admitted to the hospital but too unbalanced to go into one particular other program?
― mookieproof, Monday, 10 June 2013 21:50 (ten years ago) link
GTFO is the hospital industry motto
― folsom country prism (Jon Lewis), Monday, 10 June 2013 21:51 (ten years ago) link