DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived post-Murdoch era

OIC :)

Thanks Ed

(Not the place but this superinjunction just makes me giddy. Would the UK ask for me to be extradited I were to say it out loud here?)

try it and see

the great thing about superinjunctions is they are almost completely unenforceable once their existence becomes known because they don't really bind anyone outside of England and Wales

oh now you've done it

Yup

Stet may need to be careful if he heads south of Gretna

This doesn't seem like that much of a bombshell, tbh

I didn't put my ass on the line for "not that much of a bombshell" ;_;

can honestly say it hasn't lowered my opinion of any of the parties involved

(Not the place but this superinjunction just makes me giddy. Would the UK ask for me to be extradited I were to say it out loud here?)

They'd probably start w/me, tbh.

though if I had to share a cell w/youtube guy I'd probably choke myself on his glasses to escape

yeah stet sorry for goading lbi into spilling the beans about Anal Cunt and Richard Branson

OMG Stet we'd have so much FUN in jail! :-)

liking the screen name btw

well it's not crisis-talk-worthy but it's certainly an embarrassment

but maybe you should ixnay on the oxxday re the Cunt/Branson affair?

I mean we all agree that it's silly that uk ilxors shd have to be jumpy about this but there it is

So Le Bat can say that as he is not in the UK?

Ok, if you want me to, I will.

You have to admit though, it is just *baffling* that nothing will shut this board up, but when it comes to a ridiculous, medieval 'rule' like superinjunction, about some tabloid-worthy sex scandal like this, everyone goes "omg! can't say that! libel-suit is just around the corner!". It's bizarre.

I've seen the best minds of my ILX-generation destroyed by libel etc...

i guess no one wants to be made an example of, and i don't really blame them.

I just don't get why individual, independent minds on here feel this sudden STOP! CANT SAY IT OUT LOUD! on here. There's no precedent of this sort of censorship. Not in the "free" Western world at least.

http://www.thelawyer.com/news-and-analysis/practice-areas/litigation/high-court-upholds-mcalpine-twitter-libel-claim-against-bercow/3005218.article

Plus, it's not like we have to keep quiet, Dave Cameron is already on ILX. His name is WATERFACE.

http://order-order.com/2013/05/21/attorney-general-warns-press-over-rebekah-brooks-and-andy-coulson/

NO COMMENT.

I suppose that means this may not be a superinjunction, was there any change or call for change in superinjunction laws after the Ryan Giggs thing? It seems pointless for it to exist if in every case the only way to really enact it would be by charging 10,000 Twitter users.

yeah LBI like I say it's obv silly but since stet deleted your 1st post (I ass=u+me it was he anyway) we might as well respect that he wants to tread carefully, at least until this story explodes in oh 48hrs or so

NV: Et tu, Brute?

Why do you people feel such fear in your bodies/minds when it comes to this? It is just so wrong!

So ilx discovers something in a filename dropped by Guido Fawkes. Big deal.

Amazing kdt never took one out huh

@wins, I hadn't even noticed he'd deleted that post. Thanks for the heads up.

I will respect it for Stet. But I've difficulty to comprehend the magnitude of fear in British ilxors when it concerns stuff like this.

Well done, UK government, well done.

i don't think it's fear tbf

Then what is it?

All British people here consciously refraining from *naming names*... What other than fear is that?

prudence

Yeah, cut that out please. It's no more about a "magnitude of fear" than it is the same prudence that leads to us deleting links to copyrighted downloads etc. There's no free speech in the UK, which is where I am. I have a reasonable amount of protection because we don't pre-moderate posts, but not a massive amount.

also lols xp

a) could care less about what 1 or more consenting adults does for sexual jollies
b) am broadly in agreement with the principle of not libelling people without good cause
c) we can discuss this without having to use the names on a public board
d) whether i personally care about being taken to court, i have a collective responsibility to the people who run and use this board to avoid it getting hassle from the Man if poss

i don't think any of them mean i'm sitting here trembling, i just care more about ILX than i do about any of what sounds like a boring "scandal" that weighs pretty low on the list of reprehensible things done by its possible participants

Stet, honestly, I didn't mean any trouble for you, I hope you know that. This whole "we can't name the names" thing seems fucked up in my opinion, but I will refrain if it would get you in trouble.

I'm just genuinely sad there indeed is no free speech in the UK, apparently...

I'm sad that you're sad, but chin up, it ain't that bad! like I say it's good for the lols.I mean what's funnier than unnece$$@ry g00glepr00fing? and we have this amazing comedian called ian hislop who says "allegedly" like u wouldn't believe

Hey, NV, I am with you. And ilx.

But I don't think it's about the "boringness" of it - ILX discusses "boring things" all the time. This sex scandal isn't boring, far from it. All sex-scandals remotely linked to heads of state are interesting. You call it boring, but you wouldn't call it boring if it were a topic allowed to freely discuss.

"c) we can discuss this without having to use the names on a public board", of course we could. But why would we? For in your analogy we could also discuss it WITH saying names out loud, same as not saying the names out loud, it seems; it should make no difference, should it?

But apparently it does, for British people. MI-5 isn't going to search through ILX people, and even if they would, they'd have no case, not even remotely. It might not be fear, as I said earlier. But it is certainly wrong, for people to feel they can't name names of public figures...

In all honesty, I think it is sad, Wins. This is the one and only thing that seems to manage to suppress people from the left and right, aka everyone, to freely speak their mind. The most outspoken, enlightened people on here from Britain all go hush when it concerns this. I respect people abiding the law and all that, but that is a bitter disappointment.

Especially since the UK is the country where I will be living for the rest of my life, shortly hereafter...

I probably wrote a lot of tl;dr things. All I meant was: wtf UK 'n UK ilxors, you can't speak freely about this shit? Wtf?

Is there another thread where you could do this?

:-(

Looking forward to press conference later today...

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/06/01/306681/confidence/

It's been around that level for a few weeks now, right?

Presstv.ir seems legit tho.

Press Tv, owned by the iranian republican guard and has George Galloway as lead talent.

i don't know guys, it says at least 30 MPs singed letters calling for the vote, sounds legit to me

Singed? As in singing, or slightly burning?

(typo is article's own)

the amusing thing is that it pops up as an autosearch on twitter if you even type one of their names in

The big point seems to be that this information might prejudice a couple of upcoming trials. If that's the case, I don't understand how the British public could despise these people any more than they already do.