indefensible: john gruber

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have we mentioned that he calls himself the "director" of the app?

we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Sunday, 9 June 2013 17:49 (eight years ago) link

So basically Grubes acted like a demanding, irascible client with very specific requirements about the design. Wonder if he paid them their hourly rate during development or if everyone was just in it for equity.

Operation Gypsy Dildo (silby), Sunday, 9 June 2013 17:56 (eight years ago) link

taking six months to dev this thing absolutely suggests that an asshole director demanding meaningless iterations. Clients like Gruber are fucking horrible.

now is not the time for motorboating (dandydonweiner), Sunday, 9 June 2013 19:03 (eight years ago) link

Clients people

now is not the time for motorboating (dandydonweiner), Sunday, 9 June 2013 19:07 (eight years ago) link

We have a different name because we make a different sandwich. A true Philly hoagie is so much better than a “sub”, it’s not even funny. We’re famous for the cheesesteak, but the Philly hoagie is just as great. (Sarcone’s is the best; Primo’s are excellent too.)

as someone from philly, NAH

乒乓, Sunday, 9 June 2013 19:29 (eight years ago) link

the pizza in new york is so much better which is why they dont even call it pizza there they call it a different name like how always they change the name for the best stuff cause its better different

lag∞n, Sunday, 9 June 2013 19:34 (eight years ago) link

was kinda sad that th olde timey boston names of grinder and tonic for sub and soda didnt even make a blip on those maps rip

lag∞n, Sunday, 9 June 2013 19:35 (eight years ago) link

If you pretend to yourself that Arment hates those dudes' guts, his post about Vesper still makes sense

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 10 June 2013 11:22 (eight years ago) link

so has anyone actually tried it?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 10 June 2013 11:37 (eight years ago) link

and pay five bucks for a notes app that doesn't sync with anything? no

the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 10 June 2013 11:40 (eight years ago) link

but but it's so elegant

stet, Monday, 10 June 2013 11:57 (eight years ago) link


the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 10 June 2013 12:16 (eight years ago) link

i think marco actually did this better by taking a shit on a tshirt and selling it for $15

diamonddave85, Monday, 10 June 2013 15:35 (eight years ago) link

The original iPhone was designed for a world where smartphones were horrid little button- and scroll-wheel-driven devices, and where proper humane computer interfaces were driven by mouse and trackpad cursors. The iPhone blended the two — the size and cellular networking of the smartphone, the humaneness of Mac-style UI design — and did so by introducing something new. The touchscreen.

The design of the iPhone software was entirely informed by the fact that this was a new experience, it was nothing like using an existing smartphone, nor anything like using a Mac or Windows PC. It needed training wheels, to get people up to speed. Thus, to name one small example, why iOS buttons have tended to look so very button-y. To inform the user, as clearly as possible, that this is a button that can be tapped.

is he capable of writing anything without sounding like a total choad? "humaneness," christ

scream blahula scream (govern yourself accordingly), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:03 (eight years ago) link

tbf "humane" is a term of art in industrial/interface design and typography

caek, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:25 (eight years ago) link

i'm aware of that, but it doesn't make it sound any less ridiculous

scream blahula scream (govern yourself accordingly), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:43 (eight years ago) link

not to come off sounding glib - as somebody who does ux for a living i guess i just reserve a lot of ire for people who overuse "humane" and "empathetic" etc

scream blahula scream (govern yourself accordingly), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:46 (eight years ago) link

caek, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 22:57 (eight years ago) link

aw it's his wife

markers, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 22:58 (eight years ago) link

shirt/tie and jeans

jesus christ

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 22:59 (eight years ago) link


steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 14 June 2013 01:34 (eight years ago) link


schwantz, Sunday, 16 June 2013 00:03 (eight years ago) link

Got away with an expired transfer on Metro Bus, listening to homeless guys argue, reading a free weekly paper. This is me.

brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 16 June 2013 04:08 (eight years ago) link

you should all spend the next hour and a half or whatever listening to the episode of the talk show that that picture comes from

markers, Sunday, 16 June 2013 05:18 (eight years ago) link

apparently he met forstall after the iphone 4 announcement back in 2010

markers, Sunday, 16 June 2013 05:19 (eight years ago) link

asked him if he really used a loupe (he did)

markers, Sunday, 16 June 2013 05:19 (eight years ago) link

also the episode has a bunch of random people on it like merlin mann, scott simpson, his wife, blah blah

markers, Sunday, 16 June 2013 05:19 (eight years ago) link

I actually tried to listen to to it yesterday. I got to the 'comedian' and had to shut it off. Surprised I made it that far.

sofatruck, Sunday, 16 June 2013 16:30 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

he sure does admire expensive stuff for being expensive

caek, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 21:06 (eight years ago) link

i feel like there's this submeme of 'don't price your products too cheaply' going around among entrepreneuer types

乒乓, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 23:52 (eight years ago) link

i absolutely get that line of thinking, at least from the point of view developer.

but gruber is not a dev. he's a consumer/critic and he seems to be actively critical of inexpensive stuff simply because it's inexpensive.

i suppose that's fine when you are a cryptoconservative pulling in six figures.

caek, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 23:57 (eight years ago) link

dude he wants to pimp the meme of "it's okay to set your prices high" because he IS in the fucking development game. He doesn't want to lose money. And BTW his fucking app is overpriced and wouldn't make a dent in the world if it wasn't him pimping it. It's a classic solution looking for a problem, window dressing looking for a fucking window.

I don't find him conservative at all, at least judging from his overtly political posts.

"maximal apps" are nothing more than vanity projects or, as the fucking moron David Morin says, "bespoke" apps where devs jerk off into code, self-promote it as "disruptive", and then bask in the glory of the five other devs who want to pay $5.99 for five seconds of geek validation.

I would love to see a list of Gruber's paid consulting gigs related to typography.

now is not the time for motorboating (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 02:54 (eight years ago) link

putting this in here

markers, Sunday, 14 July 2013 05:13 (eight years ago) link

that icon is gross

we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Sunday, 14 July 2013 22:34 (eight years ago) link

eh i don't think it's too bad

markers, Sunday, 14 July 2013 23:49 (eight years ago) link

charging for it is gross

shaane, Monday, 15 July 2013 02:21 (eight years ago) link

icon looks like two chairs doin it

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 15 July 2013 15:08 (eight years ago) link

to the sound of phish, no doubt

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Monday, 15 July 2013 15:17 (eight years ago) link

maximals, roll out!

Nhex, Monday, 15 July 2013 15:41 (eight years ago) link

blasting some Phish and coding real hard here

mh, Monday, 15 July 2013 15:46 (eight years ago) link

marco and gruber are repping hard for this stratechery guy.
is he also tainted by their reps, or is he solid dude?

Philip Nunez, Monday, 15 July 2013 16:27 (eight years ago) link


caek, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 03:37 (eight years ago) link

hey I found this one account that contradicts every other account in mainstream news and casts doubt on a woman's story of sexual assault

oh wait, this single article is basically a press release by the government that oppressed her? my bad.

mh, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 03:40 (eight years ago) link

congratulations to the tories

caek, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 03:43 (eight years ago) link

i was just listening to the talk show

markers, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 03:47 (eight years ago) link

markers, Sunday, 28 July 2013 00:58 (eight years ago) link


Autumn Almanac, Sunday, 28 July 2013 01:27 (eight years ago) link

Washington doesn’t want to see Apple fail; they want Apple to continue making massive profits. They just want a bigger slice of those juicy profits kicked back.

Translation: I am as high as a kite.

i too went to college (silby), Monday, 5 August 2013 00:41 (eight years ago) link

that seems ... totally inarguable?

eris bueller (lukas), Monday, 5 August 2013 00:58 (eight years ago) link

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