omnibus PRISM/NSA/free Edward Snowden/encryption tutorial thread

What a perv

One can usually think of something that even the most open person would want to hide. As a commenter to my blog post noted, "If you have nothing to hide, then that quite literally means you are willing to let me photograph you naked? And I get full rights to that photograph—so I can show it to your neighbors?"

"quite literally"

there are lots of alternatives to "the general public dgaf about this"
- they don't know about it yet
- they don't understand it yet
- as was noted, the polling numbers don't reflect a reaction yet
this stuff came out, what, a week ago? it takes time for responses/reactions to build. but it is easier to feel superior to strawmen i guess

xposts

I think a lot of people understand how this info could be used against them, it is news after all. The thing is, I have no idea how to escape this, I am facebook and google user so I've pretty much accepted that my data is somewhere I don't really know and could be used against me at any times, since what? 7 years? more? People I know who really care about this stuff uses terms like sheeple and dabble in the dark arts of facebook macros. So I guess it's more about feeling specifically powerless, especially when you live outside of the US, cause we didn't even elect those administrations.

we can't invite Muslim friends over to watch Breaking Bad episodes anymore

right, i guess another option is
- they give a fuck about it but don't know what they can do about it
which includes me

the general public already kinda figures that the governement does whatever the fuck it wants. they're good with it.

for some reason wasn't the case in 1974

ie the peak of this country

Watergate was the peak of this country? Interesting.

no sending Shitface off in the copter was

that wd be a good name for u btw, free advice

it took more than two years after the watergate arrests for nixon to resign

Watergate waterface shitface I can't tell the difference anymore

Cool

Watergate waterface shitface I can't tell the difference anymore

U a Billy Joel fan bro?

in january 1973, which was seven months after the watergate arrests, nixon had a 67 percent approval rating

now if the government were secretly delaying the arrival of the new Xbox system we might see some angry mobs.

trenchant

ppl do figure this stuff isn't likely to ever affect them, which is correct

or PS 4. which i think we may go for. it plays blu-ray, right? i might consider getting all the president's men on blu-ray.

yes, this has to be a story (ooooh NARRATIVE) for months to come.

Unfortunately, both parties in lockstep supporting this and national attention span is 83 seconds so u know.

i'm always shocked by the amount of people who fall off of turnip trucks on a daily basis. the whole CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS? outrage junkie response. can we believe it? you betcha. kinda figured it was happening all along for decades. is there any reason to believe that any part of the world wide web is off limits to the u.s. govt? or any cell phone. or anything? they can snatch you out of your bed at night, what's a cell phone call? #crustpunx4truth

goddamn lazy average american unwilling to grumble on a music forum

ah yes such an insightful point it needed to be made for a thousandth time

http://d.wapday.com/animation/ccontennt/13165-f/coach_blowing_whistle.gif

my main reaction is "nothing like a privacy scandal to show how thoroughly entitled white Americans are"

this does actually remind me of when people on my facebook post stories from the news that are like OMG can you believe the cops harrassed this guy because he was BLACK! no way! that is NOT what the police are supposed to do. and i honestly don't know what fucking planet they have come from.

maybe outrage is just a commodity now. you can buy and sell it on the open market. the perfect capitalist trick.

the entitlement of internet users is also baffling.

my main reaction is "nothing like a privacy scandal to show how thoroughly entitled white Americans are"

― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Monday, June 10, 2013 12:38 PM (3 minutes ago)

http://static4.fjcdn.com/comments/Oh+I+see+you+have+a+repost+there+_922e03588f1f114a55bfd4c3bda95086.jpg

"maybe" its a commodity. sorry, strike that maybe. and the "now" too.

Fox the US government turned into a porn channel police state so gradually I didn't even notice.

Fox the US government turned into a porn channel police state so gradually I didn't even notice.

even in that guy's video interview he's like they'll be able to use your past phone conversations against you and make a case even if you did nothing wrong. law enforcement does that every damn day! they don't need your damn cellphone calls! #edangerlives

even THAT guy lives in la la land and he's the whistler. well, he is 29. what does he know about anything...

yes, really, let's feel "entitled" to what the Constitution guarantees us. Jesus Christ you ppl

I do have a renewed appreciation of middle-class cynics being an essential Democratic-voter set after deluded liberals, so thx Snowden.

It's sad. It was a Bill of Rights.

this is for you morbz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mCC1wktIZ0

also it's funny to be 'confronted' about issues like this by a Brzezinski

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/glenn-greenwald-spars-on-morning-joe-92479.html

yes, really, let's feel "entitled" to what the Constitution guarantees us. Jesus Christ you ppl

lol like guns, amirite

also slaves

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/rightofprivacy.html
http://www.usconstitution.net/constfaq_q113.html
http://www.usconstitution.net/constnot.html
http://www.justia.com/constitutional-law/docs/privacy-rights.html

Of the various things that have been found to be covered by the Constitution by the Supreme Court, "who you've been talking to" isn't listed.

However, there is a rebuttal: http://harrybrowne.org/articles/PrivacyRight.htm

I think there was an amendment I saw in some movie last Christmas....xp

"a well-regulated militia" xxp

I can't watch that clip right now, Comrade Scott, but I'll boot it up at the cell metting tnite.

Gen Keith Alexander, head of the NSA: “The great irony is we’re the only ones not spying on the American people.”

Disregarding the blatant untruth of this statement he made to Congress a couple of weeks ago, this idiot seems to think that this would, if it hadn't been a bald lie, be a merely ironic happenstance, rather than a fundamental distinction. The Chinese don't make or enforce the laws that govern us. The Germans don't. The Russians don't. The Brits don't. Google doesn't. Apple doesn't.

Combining indiscriminate and near-universal survelliance with the power to imprison or execute creates an entirely different entity from those other ones he was referring to. That's no irony. That's a vital safeguard.

i think i get where you are coming from DJP but honestly i think the task at hand is to link the NSA story to, say, this one:

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/06/lawsuit-mississippi-prison-mentally-ill

...which is that in the name of public safety, the appointed "guards" can do whatever they want

fyi that link needs whatever trigger warning nsfsanity ruinyourday tags you can throw on it

the constitution does not actually guarantee guns fyi

p. sure it guarantees one (1) per customer, please show up at city hall between 11am - 3pm for yours