omnibus PRISM/NSA/free Edward Snowden/encryption tutorial thread

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he gave up a $400k job and a stripper girlfriend just to protect our freedoms

― iatee, Wednesday, 12 June 2013

stripper girlfriend and snowden's income are more interesting news stories to a lot of people than anything with the word 'metadata'

― iatee, Wednesday, 12 June 2013

she was a stripper? poledancer isn't synonymous with stripper in 2013

time considered as a helix of semi-precious owns (zvookster), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link

when he's sunk to cribbing from TV producers, tsk

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:00 (ten years ago) link

Longtime NSA-observer James Bamford on building the national security state (Chicago Tribune)

In a much-cited story, the influential Republican statesman, Henry L. Stimson, was described as deeply offended by the very notion of snooping into people's private communications. As the new secretary of state in 1929, Stimson shut down the Black Chamber with the now immortal phrase, "Gentlemen do not read each other's mail."

But when President Franklin D. Roosevelt later appointed Stimson secretary of war during World War Two, Stimson changed his mind. He wanted to eavesdrop on every possible communication, especially on the Germans and Japanese.

Once the guns of World War Two began falling silent, however, the communications privacy laws again took effect. Thus, Brigadier General W. Preston Corderman, the chief of the Signals Intelligence Service - another pre-NSA iteration — faced the same dilemma Yardley confronted after World War One: a lack of access to the cables flowing into, out of and through the country.

So, once again, deals were made with the major telegraph companies - the Internet providers of the day - to grant the SIS (and later the NSA) secret access to their communications.

Codenamed "Operation Shamrock," agents would arrive at the back door at each telecom headquarters in New York around midnight; pick up all that days telegraph traffic, and bring it to an office masquerading as a television tape processing company. There they would use a machine to duplicate all the computer tapes containing the telegrams, and, hours later, return the original tapes to the company.

The secret agreement lasted for 30 years. It only ended in 1975, when the nation was shocked by a series of stunning intelligence revelations uncovered by a congressional investigation led by Senator Frank Church.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:05 (ten years ago) link

If the revelations are so stunning, how come I've never heard of Operation Shamrock Shake?????

copter (waterface), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link

Why did Michael Morell go, or why was he sent away?

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:11 (ten years ago) link

New Yorker profile on Bamford

“The Shadow Factory,” Bamford’s rageful 2008 book about the N.S.A.’s current troubles, is probably the most relevant of Bamford’s books today. In it, he describes an agency that has become increasingly cavalier about what data it will collect, and from whom. As one official told Bamford, “It’s what the N.S.A.’s been doing since 9/11. They’re just sweeping the stuff up.” Hayden, by this time, has been made into “a three-star sycophant unwilling to protect the agency from the destructive forces of Cheney and David Addington,” Cheney’s chief of staff. Whereas “Body of Secrets” referenced Borges, “The Shadow Factory” alludes to Orwell.

Particularly irksome is the suspicion that, as far as spy agencies are concerned, the N.S.A. just isn’t very good: Bamford said it has “failed badly” in preventing attacks since the Cold War, missing everything from the first World Trade Center attack in 1993 to the recent Boston Marathon bombing. That’s partly because, as the agency has been inundated with so much data, it has perhaps lost the ability to evaluate information in a timely manner. You need people to point out patterns, to say what is relevant and what is not. Or, as Bamford puts it in “A Pretext for War,” the “N.S.A. needs human intelligence sources to help tell it where, and to whom, to listen.” In the past, a rivalry with the C.I.A.—which is largely responsible for human intelligence, in contrast to the N.S.A.’s general focus on data—had prevented that sort of symbiosis.

At the root of Bamford’s fixation on the N.S.A. is a fascination with Americans’ willingness to “buy the company line” of spymasters, who assure us that the letter of the law is being followed, that civil liberties are respected, even as evidence accumulates suggesting the opposite. It seems we want to believe that those charged with protecting us may occasionally break the law, but will only do it to keep us safe, the way the roguish patriot Carrie Mathison, played by Claire Danes, routinely does on the TV show “Homeland.”

All this has made Bamford increasingly outraged. Though he refused to gloat during our conversation, it was clear that he felt vindicated for all his years of dogged pursuit. And he is still angry, as angry as he was back in 1982, when few Americans had ever heard of Crypto City. Surprisingly apolitical, Bamford simply wants the spies to account for what they do before they do it: “You want to do this?” he says of the N.S.A.’s Prism program. “Put a bill through Congress. Have a public debate.”

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:11 (ten years ago) link

Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), who questioned Alexander about the section, wanted specific figures about what attacks had been averted.

Not yet, responded Alexander. But he vowed to have them soon.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/06/12/live-updates-cybersecurity-hearing/?hpid=z1#liveblog-entry-46364

Soon

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:13 (ten years ago) link

exaflop is a word that makes me laugh

but otherwise :/

Bamford's book 'The Puzzle Palace' is a great read, of course dated now but a good history of the NSA. I still need to read Shadow Factory.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:16 (ten years ago) link

Shadow Factory is outstanding. Definitely check it out.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:18 (ten years ago) link

I will!

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:18 (ten years ago) link

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/snowden-wants-people-of-hong-kong-to-decide-my-fate/2013/06/12/a69e94ee-d370-11e2-a73e-826d299ff459_story.html

He added, “I have had many opportunities to flee HK, but I would rather stay and fight the United States government in the courts, because I have faith in Hong Kong’s rule of law.”

suchhhh a paulite

iatee, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:26 (ten years ago) link

for $200,000 he can eat a lot of dim sum

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:32 (ten years ago) link

i don't think i can even bring myself to read that friedman piece. is it as bad as i expect?

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:35 (ten years ago) link

aw hell be a man!

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:36 (ten years ago) link

Don't read it. You can still be a man J.D. without reading Lil' Tommy Friedman. Go read something good. Something else. You should never read anything by Tommy F.

copter (waterface), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:37 (ten years ago) link

oh god he just quoted fuckin' david simon

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:43 (ten years ago) link

ppl keep saying they want more 'nuanced' takes on this -- and i agree! -- but i'm afraid that what they mean is stuff like:

So I don’t believe that Edward Snowden, the leaker of all this secret material, is some heroic whistle-blower. No, I believe Snowden is someone who needed a whistle-blower.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:52 (ten years ago) link

The Three Stooges-- Sully, Friedman, and D. Simon

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:54 (ten years ago) link

It sounds like his girlfriend Sally Stripper blew his whistle plenty, am I right, guys? ;)

copter (waterface), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link

do we know for sure that it was tears on her keyboard

iatee, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link

A few weeks ago, at a Reuters summit on cybersecurity, Gen. Keith Alexander said, “The great irony is we’re the only ones not spying on the American people.”

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:58 (ten years ago) link

guam is spying on us??

am0n, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 21:09 (ten years ago) link

read that as: gwar is spying on us??

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 21:12 (ten years ago) link

This is in the first row of results for GISing "gwar spying":

http://184.173.194.236/~worm64/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/gwar_santorum.jpg

I do not know why.

high inerja (seandalai), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 21:16 (ten years ago) link

I'm getting to the point where I wish Orwell had never written '1984'. The Right referencing it whenever 'political correctness' was mentioned was bad enough, but now I can't read anything without it being invoked.

the so-called socialista (dowd), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 21:29 (ten years ago) link

we should force everyone to call it 'nineteen eighty-four.'

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 21:30 (ten years ago) link

the gwar on terrorism

am0n, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 21:30 (ten years ago) link

the clapper in that link from above:

Clapper’s deceptions don’t stop there. Rambling on in his rationalization to Mitchell, he focused on Wyden’s use of the word “collect,” as in “Did the NSA collect any type of data ... on millions of Americans?” Clapper told Mitchell that he envisioned a vast library of books containing vast amounts of data on every American. “To me,” he said, “collection of U.S. persons’ data would mean taking the book off the shelf and opening it up and reading it.”

that is either insanely idiotic or a total lie

Z S, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 22:59 (ten years ago) link

clappertrap

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 23:01 (ten years ago) link

if you're going to obfuscate, fucking obfuscate

to repeat my favorite and most oft-used phrase: don't piss on me and tell me it's raining

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 23:03 (ten years ago) link

"either"

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 23:17 (ten years ago) link

this is any selfrespecting tabloid's headline tho

Clapper told Mitchell that he envisioned a vast library of books containing vast amounts of data on every American.

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 23:18 (ten years ago) link

i meant pullquote

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 23:18 (ten years ago) link

how borgesian!

Z S, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 23:23 (ten years ago) link

iknorite can't get over vision of him wandering blissfully but officiously through the stacks

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 23:34 (ten years ago) link

"collecting" a book here and there

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 23:35 (ten years ago) link

where IS that copy of Fanny Hill, it's never on the shelves

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 23:39 (ten years ago) link

iatee is it tru u went down your local poledancing class & called them all strippers, later telling police, "it's ok i'm a liberal! hilary 2016!!!"?

time considered as a helix of semi-precious owns (zvookster), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 23:56 (ten years ago) link

its tru

iatee, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 23:57 (ten years ago) link

remember romney said binders full of women and everyone acted like it was somehow funny or notable for some reason, idk it was so long ago they were strange times

time considered as a helix of semi-precious owns (zvookster), Thursday, 13 June 2013 00:02 (ten years ago) link

Obama has metadata full of women

iatee, Thursday, 13 June 2013 00:03 (ten years ago) link

Clapper told Mitchell that he envisioned a vast library of books containing vast amounts of women.

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 13 June 2013 00:05 (ten years ago) link

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/06/snowden-says-nsa-hacked-china/

“We hack network backbones – like huge internet routers, basically – that give us access to the communications of hundreds of thousands of computers without having to hack every single one,” he said.

Snowden said he wanted to expose the government’s hacking activity to show “the hypocrisy of the U.S. government when it claims that it does not target civilian infrastructure, unlike its adversaries….Not only does it do so, but it is so afraid of this being known that it is willing to use any means, such as diplomatic intimidation, to prevent this information from becoming public.”

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 13 June 2013 00:53 (ten years ago) link

pollin pollin pollin

http://www.gallup.com/poll/163043/americans-disapprove-government-surveillance-programs.aspx
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57588748/most-disapprove-of-govt-phone-snooping-of-ordinary-americans/

btw David O Russell has an Abscam (google it) movie coming out this fall, so the '70s are BACK BABY!

― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 June 2013

abscam plays a big if backgrounded part in the popular motion picture Donnie Brasco

time considered as a helix of semi-precious owns (zvookster), Thursday, 13 June 2013 00:54 (ten years ago) link

"Edward Snowden's online past revealed"

For all you potential whistleblowers here on ilx: this is what will happen if you come forward. I fear for Garu G the whistleblower tbh

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 13 June 2013 01:10 (ten years ago) link


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