Television

Ha, those Whisky photos are great. Peter Gabriel looks like he's 12.

http://soundcloud.com/nyctaper/wilco-marquee-moon-television
pretty much note perfect -- if anyone can out-verlaine verlaine, it's nels cline.

Tweedy is no Television-guitar slouch himself!

hello richard, this is adam. i read that you gave jeff tweedy a guitar lesson and was wondering about some of the things you talked about, seeing as how i love both his and your playing. hopefully you can shed some light on this. i plan on checking out some of the lessons on your site and appreciate them very much!

thanks, adam

Hello Adam,
Thank you for writing, and for your interest in Jeff Tweedy and myself. Unfortunately, private lessons are just that -- private. For that reason, I cannot answer your questions with respect to what might have taken place between us, but we are and have been friends for a rather longtime -- Wilco opened a number of shows for Matthew Sweet many years ago when I was on tour with Matthew. We all became warm friends then and remain so, even though Jeff lives in Chicago and I live in New York. His wife called me a couple of years ago because she wanted to get him a guitar lesson from me for his birthday. So I flew to Chicago and we spend the day together. And I just saw him a month or so ago in Brazil when we both played at the Tim Festival in Rio de Janeiro.

Best regards,
Richard Lloyd

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tyler where was this?!

you should post that stuff to tumblr or facebook so it's easier for me to repost it and get all kinds of cool points.

haha, it's on richard's facebook page - he says "This has been one of the posters I have used in the past. Still valid, I teach Guitar and Music theory without recourse to music notation clefs or any reading, which does not suit Guitarists. My student learn to view the Guitar from a new perspective that can completely change the way you look at music itself. PM if interested, --Richard Lloyd."
https://www.facebook.com/richard.lloyd1

tbh i'm sort of interested! i wonder what his rates are.

the text reminds me of those Dr. Bronner's soap labels.

yeah! i was thinking it seemed kinda turn of the 20th century. i am fascinated by this sort of thing -- i have a guitarist friend who has some theory of the guitar via mandalas that i definitely do not understand, but sort of like hearing about.

I thought about that once years ago. It was intimidating though. I actually asked Bob Bannister if he'd be interesting in giving lessons but he passed.

i have a guitarist friend who has some theory of the guitar via mandalas that i definitely do not understand, but sort of like hearing about.

His name's not Robbie Basho is it?

ha, i actually asked him about basho and he said "who?"

Man, would actually be interested in hearing Richard lay this all out. Where does he teach?

he's in nyc afaik, i think he's said he does skype lessons though.

Think skype lesson would be a little too crazy for me, but will keep that NYC thought in mind when I get up there. I just bet that it is pretty fun and wild hearing him talk about what he does and getting to ask him questions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNmEq-cP9Oo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lSifKZ80H4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjWFqz1Sjps

Hah, thanks man. A window into the experience.

My buddy Alex took lessons with him for a couple of years here (NYC). I think he was p affordable.

He was living in mpls-stpl last I heard though?

I think I watched those videos before but all I remember from them is Richard playing while being like "1 2 5 6 4 1 5 3 5 2 1 4 4 4 5 6 3 5 2 1 6" for about ten minutes.

That's about what I remember

a friend took a lesson or two from him. apparently he's very touchy about tv questions or requests to learn tv songs.

yeah i can see how that would be boring for him -- obviously he's deeply into the theory of the guitar... not how you play "see no evil" but how you come up with the riff to "see no evil" yourself.

... or using the guitar to see BEYOND evil

He was advertising for new students pretty recently on Facebook too, not sure if he still is.

reading the richard hell autobio now finally and man he does not have any use for richard lloyd at all

also: is billy ficca an underrated drummer? he does some pretty crazy stuff on the television albums

Seeing ficca live is even more impressive.

he' s not underrated as far as I know

what's the deal with the Hell/Lloyd drama?

i don't know the source of it but in the book he basically says lloyd only got into television because he was fucking terry ork and then only talks about how whiny lloyd was all the time

So he doesn't mention the fact that he was a fucking awesome guitarist who any band would be delighted to have as a member?

well any band apart from Television

Can easily imagine those two guys not getting along and Tom Verlaine somehow finding a way to make it worse.

i probably say this about every 70s Television bootleg, but here's one of my faves. second set is all request! http://ow.ly/ojJKj

you do! but they're always great!

Television is playing Athens, GA on November 7 and doing all of Marquee Moon. I'd be a dumbass not to attend, right?

Whaaaat yes you need to go. It's more like the Tom Verlaine band with ripp replacing Lloyd but they are still amazing. Smith and ripp are the anchors and tv and ficca are the wanderers.

Man I wish I could come down for that. Link?

http://www.georgiatheatre.com/

Put it this way: There's a 12" single of Tom Verlaine, and on the b-side is a version of "Marquee Moon" performed live in 1987.

Basically, if the band can play, the song plays them.

I decided the allure of the spectacle vs. my general everyday apathy about Television wasn't enough to spend $30.

Well, if you don't get the album..

Then again, I never got "Horses", but I have the 2CD version with a live performance, and saw the "Rockpalast" performance, and enjoyed both live renditions.

if i were anywhere on the east coast, i'd go see that show... seems weird that they'll do "marquee moon" right in the middle of the set after decades of it being the closer.

Fuck I wanna goooooo

no idea, but i'd be a little surprised if they didn't schedule a few more US dates?

i just bought my ticket.

Xpost that's what I'm banking on... Time to go peruse the mm list...

Tyler, think you maybe even let me know this, but Chris Forsyth & The Solar Motel Band are playing a set "as" Television sometime soon in Philly. That band is getting really good live (well, they already are pretty great, but could be really achieving launch in the next couple of months ...). I bet they are gonna kill those Television songs, though seeing Verlaine in person can't really be replicated.