Why do you keep so many books (if you do)?

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I read pretty much everything my parents owned, like BOTH volumes of Iacocca's biography and my mother's collection of fiction from the '30s and Judith Viorst's Necessary Losses and Old House Journal and the engineering society newsletter and the cereal boxes and..........hah! I predict that my sister and I will someday fight to the death over my mother's trashed out, unjacketed volumes by Gene Stratton-Porter and James Oliver Curwood.

Scott, I know, I try to keep the twee under control but then I start thinking about books and kids and transcendence and I start crying at work and I really oughtn't to be allowed out some days.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm trying to put a limit on buying new books until I've read the old ones, but they're sort of like food -- there's no point forcing down steak when you want an apple.

Tep's childhood thing rings a bell -- I had way more books than my small-town library had back then. And the thought of one day having kids, it'd be great to have more books in the house for them than I had available -- about six.

stet (stet), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I know someday I will be in a place where I could've housed the things I'm considering giving away--c'est la vie though, I suppose

That crosses my mind more than once (though I'm thinking much more in the very long term). I think it will be interesting to see how the concept of what is needed in physical space in the home plays out more and more as the Internet is more entrenched. What could have been room set aside for physical intellectual products will become something else for many people.

But Raggetude, you're so nice about Joyce on amg

I am, it's a nice disc. I might finally read all of Ulysses instead of just the bits and pieces I have; maybe one day I'll finally read all of the Bible as well. As I can't get around to everything I'll enjoy what I can as I go.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Hairy muff. I just don't get it, it's like admiring everything MBV did except Loveless.

Frogm@n Henry (Frogm@n Henry), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey, I know folks who think The Hobbit is a great kid's story and Lord of the Rings is a failed and tedious bore, and I'm not surprised by that at all! It's one of many logical reactions.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Ulysses is overrated, Moby Dick is underrated

Mr. Que (Mr.Que), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

haha, and i was only kidding, laurel, it was sweet. and yet perhaps not entirely out of place on a field mice record.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I keep the ones I like enough to re-read and get rid of the rest.

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

"and I have a library all ready-made for them to build their hearts from."

I love this idea; it is beautifully put.

I didn't have a lot of books when I was little (just Mom's box of old Nancy Drews and Cherry Ames, etc.) and I didn't have a lot of guidance as to what would be good to read. Contrast that to my husband, who grew up surrounded by books and who didn't have a tv growing up, and I have a continual conversation in my life of, "what you've never read that? REALLY?" So I love buying stuff for the kids and having A.'s input on what they will love - plus I finally get to enjoy it myself.

Sara R-C (Sara R-C), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

my husband, who grew up surrounded by books and who didn't have a tv growing up

This is how my cousins were raised. I remember being befuddled by that when we were young! They're not doing that for their own kids, FWIW -- don't blame them at all.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link

my parents were both librarians, so they always tried to make me read books. which sorta backfired since now i dont do much reading....

phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I've always had a serious problem with being unable to get rid of books, but that seems to have changed now; I currently have maybe 1500, but am aiming to reduce that by at least a factor of 3 (and we're well on the way). I think the reality of international shipping costs made me finally realise that I simply don't need hundreds and hundreds of novels that I haven't read and likely never will, or have read and will never reread.

Also, selling them on Amazon = cash for other things = great. And it somehow eats into my messing around on the internet time, rather than my work time, so it's like a 2nd job which reduces the amount of crap I own.

On the other hand, I suspect that I own 100s of books that I will be completely unable to make myself get rid of (and that's excluding the maths books).

toby (tsg20), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link

but im very curious about 50 cent's book imprint. can't wait to read "ski mask way"

phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost to Ned - My kids have both the tons of books and some tv time. I don't care what my in-laws say, I have to maintain some semblance of sanity. Plus I think the cultural aspects of not being exposed to tv at all are more sticky than they should be.

That being said books >>>>>>>> tv (to the nth power)

Sara R-C (Sara R-C), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I've got about 1000 books (And I'd have way more if some fucker hadn't completely trashed my flat back in the early 90s) and I'm keeping them because:

a) I like owning a lot of books
b) It means I'm always going to have something to read
c) Who in their right mind gives away their books, unless they have to?

Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

which sorta backfired since now i dont do much reading....

Which you make up for by writing, so it all even out.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link

waht, no - i love tv and books in equal but different ways
xpost

rrrobyn, breeze blown meadow of cheeriness (rrrobyn), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd be loathe to give up my tv, don't get me wrong; I think I was just book deprived as a child, so if I had to choose, books win. I was actively discouraged from buying and owning books, so it always feels a little illicit when I go buy them - to this day!

(But no, I wouldn't give my tv up either... I like even some of the dumbest stuff on it. Trust me when I say this; I still occasionally watch the soaps that I watched as a kid!!!)

Sara R-C (Sara R-C), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

that is sad that you were book deprived :(
truth be told, i do agree on limiting tv to a certain extent for kids, as part of a critical-thinking skills education, esp b/c some of it can be so mind-numbing (which is part of why i love it, right.)

rrrobyn, breeze blown meadow of cheeriness (rrrobyn), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

i only hate my books when i have to pack and move them

rrrobyn, breeze blown meadow of cheeriness (rrrobyn), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Sara, my parents very mysteriously kept a tight lid on our TV & movie viewing (and music listening, if it comes to that) but NEVER THOUGHT TO SUPERVISE MY READING. Must have been some of those Victorian middle-class ideals at work, ie that anything in print was inherently worthy. Also, somehow fairy tales & legends & stories about magic were always taken as arguments for the mystical/unknowable and not as challenges to Christianity, so all in all it worked out very well. I'm so sorry to hear that your experience was otherwise.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Moving them sucks, but I do like reorganizing them when I get to the new place.

As for being book deprived, don't feel bad for me; now I am Totally Not. Plus my 8 year old is a much better reader than his nephew is, which I'm pretty sure has something to do with the fact that I keep all these books around and my sister doesn't (so I get to feel superior, and who doesn't secretly love that?!)

Lately all I want to do is let my kids watch tv, but they are both sick and driving me nuts right now. If I didn't have the tv (and the computer), I'd be locking myself in the bathroom to hide. With a book, probably.

Sara R-C (Sara R-C), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Laurel, it wasn't so much that they were discouraging, just that they didn't care about it and couldn't see the point in owning them. The upside is that they never really knew what I was reading when I got older, so I got to read a lot of stuff that I'm sure they would not have approved of if they had realized the content.

Sara R-C (Sara R-C), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, okay! Hahah, yes, that latter effect is the real reason to cultivate bookwormism at a young age, before anyone gets suspicious.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Stephen King, Sidney Sheldon, and VC Andrews... lots of interesting stuff in there to keep a person reading... ;)

The surprising thing (or not?) is that it led to me loving awesome literature, too.

Sara R-C (Sara R-C), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, I discovered Anne McCaffrey in maybe 5th grade and kind of never went back to non-genre lit until long after college! How I got through required lit classes for Eng major...it is a mystery.jpg.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

"i only hate my books when i have to pack and move them"

and yet i'll take my gazillion books over my gazillion records any day when it comes to moving.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

my parents very mysteriously kept a tight lid on our TV & movie viewing (and music listening, if it comes to that) but NEVER THOUGHT TO SUPERVISE MY READING.

Likewise, though my father kept mentioning the possibility of forbidding certain comic books etc, and I was part of the generation-within-a-generation that wasn't allowed to play Dungeons and Dragons.

I believe in limiting and to some extent supervising television intake, depending on the kid's age (though I think it's key for children to enjoy things their parents find stupid), just not in doing so in favor of reading (past the age of "practice makes perfect"). Especially these days. My parents tried it at one point, but I was reading hundreds of books anyway and my brother has a learning disability, so a uniform policy was too tough to cobble together.

(My parents don't read, watch TV, watch movies, or listen to music, so in this case this stuff all came out of my father's suspicion of Evil Influence and my mother's New England eyebrow-raising at anything that Doesn't Serve Some Practical End.)

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

1. If I don't own a book, I forget all about it, sometimes even that I read it.

2. Continued lust from an adolescence of looking into Manhattan brownstones where the walls were lined with endless curious tomes.

3. A tendency towards obscurer reading, and a tendency towards only buying things on sale, meaning if there's any chance I'll want to read a book someday, and I find it cheap enough, I'll grab it, because when that day comes, I will not be able to find it again.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

My parents don't read, watch TV, watch movies, or listen to music

Um. What exactly do they do for spare time?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Even if I rarely plan to re-read them, I also keep some books for sentimental reasons, or because I had to schlepp them all the way back from France, or because they're relatively rare or out of print, and because some of them I plan to lend or at least have on hand to lend.

M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Um. What exactly do they do for spare time?

My mother quilts and plays bridge, and town politics are sort of a spectator sport here. Sometimes she knits sweaters for upcoming birthdays. Bridge is kind of an indulgence, but it doesn't cost any money -- she's horrified at the number of movies I own. My father, well, he's got his own recreations. (He's Very Religious, along Pat Robertson type lines.)

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I've sold thousands of books. I've kept about 400 of them. Give me another decade and that figure may be closer to 500.

I keep the ones I keep because I like having them to open and read from. About 160 of them are volumes of poetry. About fifty are various reference works. The rest are just damn good books.

Aimless (Aimless), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

x-post -- Hey, keeps 'em happy...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

and yet i'll take my gazillion books over my gazillion records any day when it comes to moving.

this is pretty much the reason why i have so little vinyl. freaks me out. feel like i need more stability for me n vinyl to happen.

rrrobyn, breeze blown meadow of cheeriness (rrrobyn), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link

1. If I don't own a book, I forget all about it, sometimes even that I read it.

I have kept a running list of every book I've read since January of 1992. Seriously! This may seem obsessive, but sometimes I'll think of something from a book but won't remember where it came from - or need to figure out a title or author - and it really helps.

(I also have a running list of books I want to read, but that is so out of hand that it should never be discussed.)

Sara R-C (Sara R-C), Thursday, 1 February 2007 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link

30,000+ books = Frogm@n Henry's house =
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Edward Trifle (Ned Trifle IV), Friday, 2 February 2007 09:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Dribble

Frogm@n Henry (Frogm@n Henry), Friday, 2 February 2007 14:04 (seventeen years ago) link


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