omnibus PRISM/NSA/free Edward Snowden/encryption tutorial thread

lol alfred

hey balls, i was goin to rap shows long b4 yr pubes came in, just sayin

http://images.politico.com/global/2012/12/04/121204_barack_obama_ap_605.jpg

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Moving on (gif hell on bookmarks).

Plane carrying Bolivian president, Eva Morales, rerouted to Austria on suspicion US whistleblower Edward Snowden is on board. More soon …

idiot! so many embassies and he had to take a plane

fuck you if you dont have #teamsnowden stickers on yr laptop right now

idk if snowden was naive about the ruthless american war machine hunting him down, but i think maybe he was naive about the stability of the current world order - i think he's surprised to find out that the united states has the pull that it does

that 'eva' morales was of course from the fine subs at the guardian

i think he's surprised to find out that the united states has the pull that it does

Massive irony in dude leaking proof of US omniscience taken by surprise by scope and reach of US power.

"Yeah, I knew they were recording and spying on countless phone calls and stuff, but who would have guessed they'd have so much away with their treaty-bound diplomatic allies?"

Schumer is still under the illusion that the US has as much power in the world as it had in the Sixties. He's living in the past, mahnnn.

― Le Bateau Ivre

josh i look forward to your guide on evading us hegemony after leaking top secret documents

whenever you make the time

when the dn changes to Josh in Bolivia, you will know he made the time

Snowden reminds me a lot of guys you would see at hacker conventions in the early 90s - the corporate cyberpunks who talked a big game about how one day they were going take on the system and defeat Big Brother like it was a James Bond story. I think Snowden thought that the reveal itself would give him don't-kill-the-messenger immunity but he badly underestimated just how ruthless this type of Power operates - you would think the house in Hawaii, the high-paying job, and the dancing exhibitionist girlfriend would be a tip off. It works in organized crime.

i mean i cant read the guys mind who knows but i think yeah there's a decent chance he thought this would be like the end of a movie where he spills the beans and the corrupt gov't can no longer touch him because all its avatars are being prosecuted or hounded from office or whatever. and therefore underestimated not just US ruthlessness but the extent to which people care, or want to know, the revelations. (or OTOH the extent to which people *already knew* what his documents revealed

)

Awful lot of mind reading here!

yeah I'm thinking he anticipated some of this could happen

"We cannot offer you asylum because we just found out that the Americans have bugged our entire government. Your case means nothing to us."

neway i found this about as infuriating as any of the stuff that snowden revealed, the pathetic way euro countries treated evo morales and his plane http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/04/world/snowden.html?hp

certainly Obama's remark – not sending fighter jets after a hacker – makes sense. He had other means of persuasion.

josh i look forward to your guide on evading us hegemony after leaking top secret documents

Like I said, the first step, retroactively, was to evade US hegemony before leaking docs.

I suppose the catch is finding asylum without it looking like some quid pro quo secrets-for-safe-haven trade. There's asylum, and then there's ... defection? But wtf does this guy care? He's not coming back here on his own. I don't know if that makes him brave or a coward that he's not willing to go full-martyr, but he's burned his bridges already.

Anyway, watch this: fly to Mexico on a vacation, fly to Cuba. Stay there. US hegemony: evaded! But at this point, post-leak, hornet nest -shaking, he's pretty screwed if he wants to live out the rest of his life in anything close to comfort. But he claims to have thought of that, per his initial comments, so who cares.

https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5917093

huh that's interesting

I'm not a big fan of Big Brother government, but if there's anything a gov seems to be justified in going to the ends of the earth to achieve, it's catching a former employee who not only has leaked ample state secrets, threatened to leak more, fled the country in search of sanctuary and thumbed his nose at the US the whole time. Is it it any wonder no one wants this particular hot potato?

justified in their eyes, yeah.

That's just silly. You can disagree with it, but there's really no way to defend it as unjustified. It'd be like if a guy robs a bank and flees the country and boasts about it and you being all, that's cool, well played. It's not like the US is sending out the drones to blow up Snowden family weddings.

Yet.

but dude robbed a bank to treat his sick aunt...who is president of that very bank!

the USG is a morally unjustifiable entity, but i'm not saying more with them watching, y'know

saying more would be a bit like pissing into the ocean at this point, no?

prism consists of google, facebook, apple, twitter and ilx

Obama has access to ALL your posts even the ones in 77

Aybe-May ecan-may alk-tay in ode-cay?

but dude robbed a bank to treat his sick aunt...who is president of that very bank!

― Sufjan Grafton, Wednesday, July 3, 2013 11:48 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Is that a movie?

it's a mountain dew commercial. his aunt is 'sick' in the sense that she does indy nosebones

lol

It'd be like if a guy robs a bank and flees the country and boasts about it and you being all, that's cool, well played

i mean i get what you're saying, even if i disagree, but this is sort of a poor analogy

I'll concede that.

Obama has access to ALL your posts even the ones in 77

― iatee, Wednesday, July 3, 2013 3:52 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

aw hell

lol we couldn't even keep 77 posts from leaking to BCO, of course the government has them

haha that was a joke ftr?

they've had access to 77 from the start, el tomboto was like the first person invited

crut how could you do this to us

Evo Morales is, with a stopover in Gran Canaria, now on the way home. But the involuntary stopover in Vienna Bolivian President leaves considerable repercussions. And questions, the answers are hidden in the false bottoms possibly that are standard in the diplomatic interiors.

i really enjoy google translate sometimes

‏@MartinxHodgson
Obama "not scrambling jets" to find #Snowden. Merely closing down European airspace and detaining a president!

Morales said Bolivia had not received a formal application for asylum from Snowden yet, but hinted it would consider any request favourably.

"If there were a request, of course we would be willing to debate and consider the idea," Morales told RT Actualidad, the Spanish-language service of Russian broadcaster RT.

"I know that the empires have an espionage network and are against the so-called developing countries. And in particular, against those which are rich in natural resources," he added.

His comments were echoed by favourable noises from Venezuela, another possible exit route for the former NSA contractor. President Nicolás Maduro said Caracas was also ready to consider Snowden's asylum should he ask for it.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/03/edward-snowden-bolivia-plane-vienna

Not scrambling jets, just searching the jet of another country's president

Amid a growing diplomatic storm, the Bolivian president, Evo Morales, has been allowed to fly out of Vienna, but only after a 12-hour interruption during which his plane was stopped and searched for the whistleblower Edward Snowden.

tho obv i'm in the free eddie camp there's a part of me that's coming around to the notion that turning himself in would be the fastest way to make this story about spying again instead of about the spy

wondering how many liberals in '71 were rushing to compare dan ellsberg to a bank robber