Rolling Metal Thread 2009

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I finally heard the Gods & Queens album, holy shit hear it if you haven't.

J0hn D., Wednesday, 18 February 2009 13:09 (fifteen years ago) link

mind you metal-archives also don't include: Converge or The Angelic Process

djmartian, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 13:10 (fifteen years ago) link

with Tombs there is a heavy shoegaze, hardcore and indeed industrial-rock twist embedded into their sound vortex - that's why the metal purists have probably barred them from metal-archives

djmartian, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 13:16 (fifteen years ago) link

got that tombs album the other day, ppl tar me as a "purist" sometimes but I thought that album was great

J0hn D., Wednesday, 18 February 2009 13:22 (fifteen years ago) link

it was actually the first metal record I'd heard this year that did much for me til I heard Gods & Queens

J0hn D., Wednesday, 18 February 2009 13:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Tombs sounds very 90s to me; like I dunno, a boogie-less meeting of Neurosis, Tad and Fudge Tunnel? But then "Beneath the Toxic Jungle" that has a black metal lead riff.
(Note that I've not heard the album, I've just played the stuff on their myspace page)

Øystein, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 13:25 (fifteen years ago) link

earlier this year i compared Cobalt and Sólstafir to The God Machine

thinking of the 90s reference there are some The God Machine vibes in Tombs music

djmartian, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 13:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Apparently I'm going to have to break down and order that Tombs album on Amazon. I haven't been able to get the Relapse promo player to work for a couple months now and it seems that Relapse's distribution (around Chicago at least) has gone to shit. Their stuff hasn't been showing up in stores until a month or two after the release date. Long way of saying, haven't heard Tombs yet... but I'm really anxious to do so.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 13:52 (fifteen years ago) link

jon, i just saw the tombs album on vinyl at metal haven the other day, guessing they probably have it on cd too

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:03 (fifteen years ago) link

That's one place I haven't looked yet. I need to make a trip down there this week, thanks for the heads up.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:08 (fifteen years ago) link

I should qualify that when I say "great" I don't mean it's breaking down any doors or anything

J0hn D., Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, damn. The J0hn D. stamp of approval is what made me so anxious to hear it! Actually it sounds like it would be right up my alley.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:19 (fifteen years ago) link

imagine Fugazi or an Am-Rep band drowning in a sea of shoegazy reverb and noise... panicking and thrashing, desperately trying to claw their way out.

Gods & Queens description on brooklynvegan, could definitely hang with this. and the last j0hn recommendation i hit was wetnurse, so yeah i will be checking this out.

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:45 (fifteen years ago) link

That Gods & Queens is great, definitely check it out!

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:47 (fifteen years ago) link

add to "tombs curious" list

contenderizer, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link

I nominated Gods And Queens on the metal poll

The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 19:12 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm really liking the new Blut Aus Nord album. It is, as the Memoria Vetusta II title implies, a little more accessible than their last couple, but I kind of think that maybe (unlike with Deathspell Omega) they were closer to their personal strengths in that mode, and the combination of focus plus distance ("maturity"? experience?) sounds pretty good to me.

I've also been doing some remedial catalog-spelunking while things are still pretty quiet on the new-release front, and am really enjoying Ven Buens Ende's old album Written in Waters. A Black Metal Classic, I've been assured by the internet, but I had never heard of it until a few days ago. Excitingly strange, in no small part because it was done in 1995 before as many of the genre-tropes had been trope-ified.

Re Gods & Queens: singer has some faint Perry Farrell overtones to his voice (or to the combination of his voice and my ears) that totally ruin it for me.

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 23:09 (fifteen years ago) link

another Relapse album stream, this time from Obscura from German tech death-metal band, will give it a listen tomorrow

OBSCURA: Entire New Album Available For Streaming
http://bit.ly/CU0s4

"Cosmogenesis", the second full-length album from German death metallers OBSCURA, is available for streaming in its entirety at ObscuraCosmogenesis.com. The CD is being released in the U.S. today (February 17) via Relapse Records (March 2 internationally). The CD features guest appearances from Ron Jarzombek (WATCHTOWER, SPASTIC INK, BLOTTED SCIENCE) and Tymon Kruidenier (CYNIC, EXIVIOUS). "The new album sounds very intense and brutal", the band says in a statement.

Obscura - Cosmogenesis
http://www.obscuracosmogenesis.com/

djmartian, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 23:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Glenn, that Ved Buens Ende is a classic. If you like it, you'll probably enjoy the entire Ludicra catalog, as well as their new band Virus.

Nate Carson, Thursday, 19 February 2009 01:35 (fifteen years ago) link

That's Ved's new band I mean. Ludicra are still Ludicra (and thanks Satan for that!).

BTW - new Wolves in the Throneroom E.P. is the best thing I've heard in 2009 so far.

Nate Carson, Thursday, 19 February 2009 01:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I think the Obscura is one of my surprise albums of the year so far. It has better songwriting than Necrophagist and some great fretless bass playing. I've had a few people compare it to Human-era Death so far, but I don't really think they're comparable. Two completely different beasts.

Picked it up on vinyl a few weeks ago when I was in Philadelphia. Cool packaging with a diecut sleeve inside and nice blue vinyl.

S. Palmerston, Thursday, 19 February 2009 13:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Made a huge mistake I think on Tuesday night. Instead of going to the Meshuggah/Cynic show in Toronto I took the offer for a free ticket to the Soilwork/Darkane/Warbringer/Swallow The Sun show that same night across town.

Swallow The Sun were best band of the night. They made the most of what they had, stage and PA-wise, and received rapturous response from the 450 or so in the hall. Warbringer were bad. 10th grade retro thrash from a bunch of kids trying way too hard to please. Not looking forward to seeing them again on the Kreator tour in a month or so. Darkane did a good job but the PA wasn't doing them any favors. No vocals for the first song, guitars inaudible until the middle of the second. However, they pulled through any problems and did a great job. Soilwork ended the night. I am not a fan, never have been. They were okay but all I could think of by this point was how Cynic's set went over and what the fuck was I thinking not going to see them anyway.

S. Palmerston, Thursday, 19 February 2009 13:53 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, I love the new wolves in the throne room ep. best thing they've done to date.

original bgm, Thursday, 19 February 2009 14:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Picked it up on vinyl a few weeks ago when I was in Philadelphia.

where? who is selling metal now that the relapse store is closed?

DONKEY CANCER in action (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 19 February 2009 15:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Relapse's warehouse. I used to work in another life. I even met 'unperson' a few times in person during my time there (although I doubt he remembers).

S. Palmerston, Thursday, 19 February 2009 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Relapse's warehouse. I used to work there in another life. I even met 'unperson' a few times in person during my time there (although I doubt he remembers).

S. Palmerston, Thursday, 19 February 2009 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link

so i was streaming the tombs album earlier and couldn't make it past the fourth song. all the black-metal-referencing melodies sounded really really familiar, and not in a good way.

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Thursday, 19 February 2009 21:26 (fifteen years ago) link

I even met 'unperson' a few times in person during my time there (although I doubt he remembers).

Yeah, I came down there interviewing for what became Carl Schultz's job.

Listening to the live bonus disc on the reissue of Amon Amarth's Once Sent from the Golden Hall right now. I vastly prefer Johan Hegg's current, lower vocals to his earlier, more black-metal-influenced screech, so the live versions of these songs are actually much better, to my ear, than the old studio recordings.

unperson, Thursday, 19 February 2009 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Metal Inquisition has quite an amazing investigation of Manowar's life in Auburn, New York when they're not playing to tens of thousands of people in Europe:

http://metalinquisition.blogspot.com/2009/02/metal-inquisition-investigative-report_20.html

A. Begrand, Friday, 20 February 2009 07:20 (fifteen years ago) link

BAN
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YOUR
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awesome inbestigative reporting

you are nude spock (contenderizer), Friday, 20 February 2009 07:27 (fifteen years ago) link

by which i mean omfg lol dr peppar

you are nude spock (contenderizer), Friday, 20 February 2009 07:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Swallow The Sun are fucking great

i, grey, Friday, 20 February 2009 07:39 (fifteen years ago) link

metal inquisition article is kind of a bummer. ;__; I like metal inquisition and all but the mean-spiritedness gives me a vice mag vibe sometimes.

wasn't feeling the new buried inside but maybe I just wasn't in an angry hardcore guy screaming at me at 8am mood. switched over to the new blut aus nord instead. loving it on first listen. surprisingly melodic for a hypnotic, repetitive black metal album. (especially after that dissonance fest a couple years back.) plus, it swings.

original bgm, Friday, 20 February 2009 14:51 (fifteen years ago) link

last few tracks are especially strong.

original bgm, Friday, 20 February 2009 14:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Dudes, you were all right about that God Forbid album. Pretty awesome.

Mordy, Friday, 20 February 2009 16:52 (fifteen years ago) link

lissening to tombs. liveblog! first track = boring, though scary-pretty at times. screamo vox a huge problem, gotta admit. almost gave up, but "golden eyes", holy shit! esp dig the straight-up, heavy-handed rock drumming. first half of "beneath the toxic jungle" is great too. then it drags again. don't dig the stonefaced blackened postrock when they play it straight. want more catchy shit. and the ambient stuff is straight filler.

second half (side 2) ups gaze quotient, for the better. "the divide" could easily be some midwest amrep also ran. hammerhead? really, really prefer the less hysterical vocals here. dude should pull back more often. good shit, fucking standout track. jeez, now that i think about it, hammerhead/vaz seem like the template for a lot of this record's tricks. beyond the more obvious godflesh thing i mean. "merrimack" goes back to the wounded howling (with some embarassing "look inside your soul" lyrics), but melodicism saves it. kinda started to tune back out after that.

really nice guitar tones throughout, raw and sharp, albini-ish, kinda, but thicker, more lo-end luv. clink clanky junkyard cymbals are weird, but maybe that's just the rip. good record, though the harder they try to crush my soul, the more bored i get. serious godflesh vibes on the 2nd half of "filled with secrets".

super short! without the short interludes, only about 33 min. probably for the best at this stage, though i'm surprised they don't stretch out more.

welcome little swetty (contenderizer), Friday, 20 February 2009 19:26 (fifteen years ago) link

^ maybe that sounds too unimpressed/bitchy. i dug it, spun it twice, will listen again.

welcome little swetty (contenderizer), Friday, 20 February 2009 19:42 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe i gotta go back to the stream and try the second half. i was def. not crazy about the recording or vox, and when they would toss in a blastbeat and black metal riff it just sounded kind rote; not like they felt it needed to be there.

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Friday, 20 February 2009 19:46 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm glad the Tombs isn't more than 33 minutes. Any longer would have been overkill...this album gets it right, concise and catchy.

A. Begrand, Friday, 20 February 2009 19:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Metal Inquisition has quite an amazing investigation of Manowar's life in Auburn, New York when they're not playing to tens of thousands of people in Europe

So let's see here. They invade the privacy of older acts in unfortunate circumstances but can't afford to pay for their own domain separate from blogspot.com. Or get the font in their captions right. Or distinguish a photo of an air-conditioner from a microwave oven.

Gorge, Friday, 20 February 2009 22:20 (fifteen years ago) link

I found that Manowar "expose" very cruel and tasteless.

Mordy, Friday, 20 February 2009 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link

A band known for it's taste..

The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 20 February 2009 23:14 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't remember the band ever being cruel. They're having fun. What's wrong with that?

Mordy, Friday, 20 February 2009 23:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Never said there was!

The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 20 February 2009 23:29 (fifteen years ago) link

They invade the privacy of older acts in unfortunate circumstances but can't afford to pay for their own domain separate from blogspot.com. Or get the font in their captions right. Or distinguish a photo of an air-conditioner from a microwave oven

or worse yet (and more likely) just doesn't care enough about his own writing to. a skilled writer could have used this information to paint a sad and profound portrait about what happens to bands that are at some point able to quit their day jobs for a music career, and spend the prime of their lives doing something for love that won't continue to pay the bills once they get too old to keep going. i have NO idea if this is the case with these guys, but it seems like something that could easily happen to musicians.

fwiw (rockapads), Saturday, 21 February 2009 00:07 (fifteen years ago) link

just saying it would be a hell of a lot more interesting than "lol they r poor"

fwiw (rockapads), Saturday, 21 February 2009 00:08 (fifteen years ago) link

"They don't live in a castle. OMGZ. Such loserz!!!!"

Mordy, Saturday, 21 February 2009 00:09 (fifteen years ago) link

when all is said and done, i wonder who has seen and done more awesome things in their lives: metal internet blogger, or...

http://www.metalyou.com/img/history/p2.jpg

fwiw (rockapads), Saturday, 21 February 2009 00:21 (fifteen years ago) link

just read that blog, you guys werent kidding about it being cruel.

The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 21 February 2009 00:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes, now no one will ever mistake them (or it) for being sissies to charity or the pure milk of human kindness.

Gorge, Saturday, 21 February 2009 00:44 (fifteen years ago) link


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