Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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The moderation seems a little faster / stronger than back in the day so the level of genuine hatefulness has diminished, I think.

Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 16:43 (ten years ago) link

I sometimes wade into those comments, and sometimes come out of it with quite a few 'recommendations', you know.

The nice people are always called things like 'bobanthonysmith' or 'lucy_jones' and are middle aged with a picture of themselves in France as their avatar.

The fucking cunts are the ones with a guy fawkes mask/crazy kitten/picture of David Mitchell as an avatar and they're at their worst when they're not even trolls

cardamon, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 09:42 (ten years ago) link

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jul/10/sunny-weather-heat-night?CMP=twt_gu

this is full of fairly amusing drivel.

Shamrock Shoe (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 09:49 (ten years ago) link

"This sunny weather is a reminder of the stifling heat of the night"

is the headline

Shamrock Shoe (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 09:57 (ten years ago) link

"hey, it's fucking sunny outside isn't it?"

Shamrock Shoe (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 09:57 (ten years ago) link

this just in from our "who are you telling?" correspondent

Shamrock Shoe (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 09:57 (ten years ago) link

^^^ Give this guy a Pulitzer.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 09:58 (ten years ago) link

what a tool. "six people on the internet liked my fake comment for reasons i can't know, QED!"

Shamrock Shoe (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 10:03 (ten years ago) link

On Comment Is Free liking a comment needs to be witnessed and approved by a justice of the peace. It's a serious business which demonstrates deep love of the comment in question.

Best thing about that Telegraph blog is that most of the comments beneath it are far more spoof-like than his trolling attempts. "Komment Macht Frei" etc.

Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 10:12 (ten years ago) link

some of the people itt remind me of guardian commenters

lex pretend, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 10:35 (ten years ago) link

must be annoying depending on their ire for a clickbait commission.

Shamrock Shoe (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 10:47 (ten years ago) link

It would be if it worked like that but it doesn't.

Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 11:46 (ten years ago) link

Sounds interesting

Shamrock Shoe (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 21:15 (ten years ago) link

is there any way to stop the website geodirecting me to the US site? at the moment i have to select the UK edition once a day. it doesn't remember the preference.

caek, Thursday, 18 July 2013 22:21 (ten years ago) link

it used to do that to me too. I think I set the bookmark to guardiannews.com/ukhome but I don't know if that works still (it redirects me to the UK site, when I'm in the UK)

kinder, Thursday, 18 July 2013 22:44 (ten years ago) link

at the moment i have to select the UK edition once a day.

but you hate the guardian

lex pretend, Thursday, 18 July 2013 22:53 (ten years ago) link

the guardian is the least bad british newspaper

caek, Thursday, 18 July 2013 23:29 (ten years ago) link

such effusive praise

Mordy , Thursday, 18 July 2013 23:33 (ten years ago) link

that is pretty much what every uk ilxor who hasnt written for them would say

the guardian is the least bad british newspaper

POLL

the SI unit of ignorance (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 18 July 2013 23:43 (ten years ago) link

maybe dwight yorke would cast a vote for the wetherspoons paper

oh Mordy how are we defining "best" here?

the SI unit of ignorance (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 18 July 2013 23:53 (ten years ago) link

i'm voting for al-hayat

Mordy , Thursday, 18 July 2013 23:54 (ten years ago) link

The series on Hindi pop-cinema is enjoyable:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/series/100-years-of-indian-cinema

Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Friday, 26 July 2013 18:13 (ten years ago) link

everytime this thread appears in sna the mantra 'yes, the guardian is always worse than it used to be' crosses my mind

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Friday, 26 July 2013 18:14 (ten years ago) link

idk if it is true or not

i should probably try to get a 1976 copy

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Friday, 26 July 2013 18:15 (ten years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/z3jnxCq.jpg

Alan Rusbridger taking part in the Reddit AMA

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Wednesday, 31 July 2013 18:51 (ten years ago) link

to answer original groove : c'mon.
the fact is that the guardian is the best of a bad bunch.
life without it would be a fucking bad place ..
there are faults with it.
but still .. tis all about degrees of crapness ..
and i, for one, am very glad the guardian is around.
fuck the hate.

mark e, Wednesday, 31 July 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link

^ yeah, this.

djh, Wednesday, 31 July 2013 22:35 (ten years ago) link

Can;t remember the last time I read something so badly written.
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/lostinshowbiz/2013/aug/01/one-direction-fans-gq-abusive-tweets

Studied keyboard mash (tsrobodo), Friday, 2 August 2013 13:51 (ten years ago) link

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/07/10-rules-managing-penis-sexting-wine-toaster

Jesus fucking Christ get a load of this shite.

Suzanne Moore used to be a good columnist when she was the voice of sanity at the Mail but she's been awful since moving to the Guardian.

Matt DC, Thursday, 8 August 2013 10:03 (ten years ago) link

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/08/dread-daughter-poos-smaller-girl-conform?INTCMP=SRCH

Am I wrong to be aghast at this? I mean, the central point about girls feeling increasing pressure to be self-effacing as they grow older is a legit and important one- but I can't help a gut reaction of horror when I turn to the op-ed section of the guardian and a third of the page is taken up with a writer describing their daughter's bowel movements. It brings some real 'the modern world is terrible and awful' feelings in me, but i sort of feel like this is some reactionary, Peter Hitchens-ish response that i should try and work past?

Eight Model Play, Saturday, 10 August 2013 13:36 (ten years ago) link

I think i reacted to it more strongly because I saw it in the physical copy of the paper, and most of the people I see reading the hard copy of the Guardian are 60+. Like, it's the same reaction I had as a teenager when I was with my grandparents and we would accidentally catch some of a youth tv programme or a rap single or something, that i normally might of enjoyed, but I could tell they were bemused and slightly upset by the whole thing, and I just felt ashamed for my generation and the modern world generally.

Eight Model Play, Saturday, 10 August 2013 13:41 (ten years ago) link

Also feel preemptively sorry for this woman's daughter for when one of her classmates discover the article on google in 12 yrs time

Eight Model Play, Saturday, 10 August 2013 13:43 (ten years ago) link

not rly into sophie heawood joints but i noticed how the print edition of her editorial content carries the 'sophie is a columnist for vice' disclaimer

The concept of making the Zuiderzee docile (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 10 August 2013 13:47 (ten years ago) link

if the guardian is going to print v lightweight columns then i'm happy for them to be about 'whopper turds'

ogmor, Saturday, 10 August 2013 17:48 (ten years ago) link

Incredible that someone thought that piece was interesting.

Shamrock Shoe (LocalGarda), Saturday, 10 August 2013 23:20 (ten years ago) link

The Guardian app has some terrible bugs which they seem to have no desire to fix. Top grumble at the moment is captions in the picture galleries, which are covered in code, presumably fed through from the website where links and bold text actually work.

Rising up the annoyance list: stories written for an Aussie audience randomly popping up in the UK version.

Madchen, Sunday, 11 August 2013 08:43 (ten years ago) link

A-grade Photoshop work guys.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/gallery/2013/aug/13/jeremy-paxman-newsnight-beards-media

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 20:07 (ten years ago) link

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/aug/15/drenge-drenge-review

This isn't particularly badly written or hateful or anything, but OMG at the gulf between how excited the writer is by this album and the lyrics/song titles/examples of 'middle-fingered ingratitude' cited as justification.

squeak and gibber (Eight Model Play), Friday, 16 August 2013 20:36 (ten years ago) link

ehdunno

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All 380 premier league matches live?? If there are 20 teams playing 38 games each, how is that 380? Or does it mean they are only showing 380, but they will all be live?

Amílcar Lopes da Costa Cabral (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 16 August 2013 21:28 (ten years ago) link

38 games a season x 10 fixtures?

Chewshabadoo, Friday, 16 August 2013 21:38 (ten years ago) link

Lol, my reading comprehension not up to much tonight.

Chewshabadoo, Friday, 16 August 2013 21:41 (ten years ago) link


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