Wolfgang Voigt's GAS Project: the Poll

you might like the album shenzhou by biosphere.

really surprised that no one in the world of music criticism has connected the dots between the gas LPs and the music of german electronic pioneer roland kayn. especially his late 70s works like "infra", which have the same submerged, womb like ambience as the darker gas tracks. i mean, throw a high-pass kick drum under this kayn piece and you have it:

http://rootstrata.com/rootblog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Nastie-excerpt.mp3

also for more modern stuff that's similar, check the first porter ricks CD on chain reaction...

or fluxion.

imho pop has too much light but 6 and 7 is what I expect to listen once I get admitted to heaven.

OK this Yagya stuff is like woah.

this whole global systems silently moving (rod modell?) album is a decent enough GAS ripoff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjsopzdExzE

After listening to the original Gas for a week solid, I am of the opinion that Voigt fucked with the legacy almost purely because track 3, good as it is, sounds so heavily influenced by Basic Channel.

― Lil' Kim Philby (Call the Cops), Tuesday, June 12, 2012 12:40 PM

i tend not to think this for some reason when i'm not actually listening but zauberberg is super basic channelly on any track w/ a beat

to me, basic channel is all about the electronic pulse and the squiggle, whereas gas is super earthy magic mushroom music.

^might finally tip me over into giving gas another go

generally sure maybe but i think the first b.c. comp and zauberberg are not far from each other in terms of that distant yet somehow space-filling wooz of sound

i would say that "port gentil" by porter ricks is the exact midpoint between gas and basic channel

...or perhaps it just illuminates your point that bc and gas aren't far apart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWlGppXEc2I

track 3 on zauberberg is astonishing, i used to listen to that on loop for hours

the rest of zauberbeg (apart from the opening and closing tracks) is a little too dark for me. certainly has a lot of power but i don't find myself going to those tracks a lot. they are amazing though.

i would say that "port gentil" by porter ricks is the exact midpoint between gas and basic channel

Based on the records I've heard, the American producer Deepchord seems to have built his career on inhabiting the midpoint between Gas and BC.

http://youtu.be/pqNJd6c1_Hg

(bleep 10 track)

I like some of the Deepchord stuff, but a lot of it is sort of unintentionally humorous to me. Like, when they try to approximate BC's atmospheric hiss and it comes out sounding like lawn sprinklers.

trying to buy pop for somebody as a gift but it's OOP & $1ZIL on a bunch of websites. does anybody know where would have it at normal sums?

The cheapest used copy on Amazon.de is 22 Euros, and the seloer ships overseas. Or do you need a new copy?

second-hand is okay, was hoping it would just be like ... the price of cds ... ten years ago ... minus eight dollars.
sorry to bump this thread with such a boring question. had a really nice time listening to gas, recently, teasing apart pop & finding pianos.

dude just spring a little more and get them nah und fern! that way if they want to hear all of GAS (which they will if you think they'd like pop)then they'll already have it.

it's a good price here: http://www.discogs.com/Gas-Nah-Und-Fern/master/14298
and here: http://www.amazon.com/Nah-Und-Fern-Gas/dp/B0018LMKGW

ooo, hey that's a great idea. i'm broke as hell at the moment but if it doesn't exist otherwise maybe i can talk myself into it. thanks, to both of you, help much appreciated, bringing gases to the masses.

weird okay nevermind. it says "used & new starting from $35" but when you click on the options they are all outrageously priced

i ran into this same problem years ago when i couldn't find out where to buy the albums and i ended up buying mp3s from kompakt's site. :( still ended up buying nah und fern to get physical copies

Yeah, I would suggest Nah und Fern too. The versions of Gas (the debut album) and Königsforst on that comp are slightly inferior to the original albums (Gas has two of its original tracks replaced by new tracks, and Königsforst has some weird sound compression issues in its best track), but the version of Pop on it is pretty much the same as the original album, the only diffrence is that a couple of the tracks are slightly longer on the comp.

between French horn and bass drum

pop V has a dope summer heat vibe.. like overheated, cooling out in the afternoon. AC on, shades drawn, etc

"NationalPark" is very nice. (Perhaps we've had this conversation elsewhere).

yeah it is, more pellucid and simple than gas with a cleaner sound

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KeQtXgDnRs

the fuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNX3z-a5SXo

http://experimedia.net/gasbox

So this version will include the original albums instead of the altered Nah und Fern versions? With the original tracks 1 and 3 on the eponymous first album?

No wait, the description says this:

Inside this comprehensive anthology, listeners will experience Zauberberg (1997), Königsforst (1998), Pop (2000) and the sought-after Oktember 12 inch (1999), all together available as luxurious ten LP and four CD edition.

So the first 1996 album isn't included at all?!

Man, fans of the first album really haven't been treated well, have they? First the Nah und Fern comp replaced tracks 1 and 3 with inferior new tracks, and now it's totally excluded from this one. It seems as if Voigt is embarrassed of it.

I mean, I get it that it's a bit different from the material that followed, because it doesn't have the classical music samples. But it's still an awesome record in its own right!

The first one is probably my least-favourite of the four but yeah, it's still good. I've only ever heard the Nah und Fern versions of any of these though, wasn't aware of all the track changes.

The Nah und Fern version is hurt by the track changes, IMO. The original track 3 in particular is totally cosmic and sublime, whereas the replacement tracks are pretty standard Gas stuff.

i love the first album

I do too. I'm still hoping to get a lot of gas for Christmas in the form of this box set, but it's kind of o_O that they had a second chance to do it right - defined by me as simply releasing all of the music, on vinyl, at full length - and still managed to leave everyone with the feeling that they're not really getting all of the primary gas albums. Sigh

i was pretty satisfied by the nah und fern tbh, that's a lot of GAS in one box and it was very cheap iirc

i mean the packaging and everything was not great but it was cool to have them in one place especially after being out of print for so long. i remember looking for GAS albums in 2006 or something before the rerelease and they were listed at like $200 each on amazon/ebay. i think i ended up buying mp3s from kompakt's site but had to decipher the german

Grrrrr I had no idea the Fern version of the first LP was different. I have no idea why he's screwing with this stuff so much, I wonder if there's an interview about it somewhere.

The logic of including Oktember is a little weird too as isn't half of that a track that was also on Königsforst?

that's true, i'm wondering if the inclusion of oktember points towards konigsforst having its original tracklisting - missing a1 (which was a-side of oktember) and including two other tracks (a1 and d1 on the original 2lp configuration).

the 3lp for all of them also makes me wonder if they're going to have longer edits (like some of the original lps vs cds)

The selling point for this box is that they're the longer edits, I believe.

jfc what a mess

i am not rly someone who can jedi mind trick myself into feeling justified in buying Expensive Vinyl Objects but i listen to gas every day & srch ebay for gas vinyl every sometimes & so want this. it seems closer to $130 thru kompakt. what is w 'KÖNIGSFORST 2016' #???

I am with you! I haven't gotten a box set in forever but this immediately jumped out as something that I need.

so are these albums impossible to find individually, in a cd format?