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*Should say "Not too familiar with "And Their Refinement. . ." I have, in fact, made my own decisions before.

mehlt, Sunday, 25 November 2007 00:54 (sixteen years ago) link

tired sounds is more singular in tone to atrotd; atrotd goes for full-on widescreen euphoria, where tired sounds culminates with a series of endless blissed out drones. kinda like the difference between inner and outer space. both are some of the best music ever recorded imo so you need both really. even if you only start with one you'll get the other eventually.

going to watch them live on monday. gonna be sick.

r1o natsume, Sunday, 25 November 2007 01:02 (sixteen years ago) link

I agree with the post above re: the singular tone vs widesceen thing, and that if you like the one you'll want the other eventually. Still, I'd say start with Tired Sounds, as it contains perhaps the greatest consecutive 15 minutes of music they've ever made - Requiem for Dying Mothers, Pts 1 and 2, which somehow manages to evoke the feeling of drifting around in North Atlantic coastal waves, or some impossibly long descent from the top of a tree as a falling leaf, or maybe just peaceful last breaths before dying, all without sounding nearly as gay as I just made it sound. And the rest of the album is nearly as good. Refinement goes for a more varied blissed out feeling, and succeeds, mostly, but if you dig the melancholy mood of Tired Sounds, you'll be obsessed.

Z S, Sunday, 25 November 2007 01:18 (sixteen years ago) link

i was really upset by those metacritic posts.

cutty, Sunday, 25 November 2007 01:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Of the next 5-10 cd's I buy, there's a good chance both will be included. It's honestly sometimes hard to fathom how much of an affect they can get out of so little, it's some of the most viscerally captivating and straightforward music I've heard in so long.

mehlt, Sunday, 25 November 2007 02:29 (sixteen years ago) link

three months pass...

woohoo, live in Seattle at the Triple Door 4/18!!!
(with Christopher Willits and Lusine)

Mackro Mackro, Friday, 29 February 2008 21:37 (sixteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

a while back a friend gave me all of their albums, and because i get so much music all the time, i didn't really pay them any attention.

and now i've been listening to Avec Laudenum and Refinement on the daily.

the table is the table, Monday, 3 November 2008 07:17 (fifteen years ago) link

i should add that i was incredibly distracted by the other stuff he gave me, too: lots of Plank and rare Eno shit.

the table is the table, Monday, 3 November 2008 07:17 (fifteen years ago) link

woohoo, live in Seattle at the Triple Door 4/18!!!
(with Christopher Willits and Lusine)

― Mackro Mackro, Friday, February 29, 2008 9:37 PM (8 months ago) Bookmark

i love these guys but if my experience seeing them live is any guide you were way too excited about a Stars of the Lid show

HOOS HOOS HOOS on the autosteen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 3 November 2008 13:51 (fifteen years ago) link

I"m pretty sure "Dungtitled" is still my top track on Last.fm

HOOS HOOS HOOS on the autosteen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 3 November 2008 13:51 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

anyone else see them closing the Brainwaves festival last night? they were great!

nerve_pylon, Monday, 24 November 2008 15:05 (fifteen years ago) link

I saw them friday in nyc. great show.

original bgm, Monday, 24 November 2008 15:27 (fifteen years ago) link

That tour CD they were selling this year is really, really good. I guess it's a combination of earlier rarities + new tracks, although I haven't been able to find anything that lists which is which and where they come from. The only track on it that I recognize is "Virginia", a 20 minute cover of a Labradford song. It's actually one of the weaker songs on the CD. The last song exists in the middle ground between SotL and Dead Texan.

I bring all of this up only because I noticed that they're selling the left over copies of the tour CD on kranky's website now, if anyone's interested.

nikefanatic90: Sup (Z S), Monday, 24 November 2008 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link

I forgot to mention, one of the guitarists said something like, "we're stars of the lid and this is the last time you'll see us in... a long, long time" right before they started playing. pretty cryptic. I took it as, "touring is no fun and we won't be doing it again anytime soon" but who knows.

original bgm, Monday, 24 November 2008 18:58 (fifteen years ago) link

@ nikefanatic90: Sup (Z S), the discogs entry for Carte-De-Viste gives details of where the various tracks come from: http://www.discogs.com/release/1143841

Tracklisting:
1 The Mouthchew (Part 2) (3:45)
2 JPRIP (4:37)
3 Requiem String Melody (2:46)
4 Porch (Version #28) (5:00)
5 The Kraut (9:42)
6 Slight On The Childproof (5:01)
7 Virginia (20.03) (20:05)
8 Hunting For Pops (5:24)
9 The Funereal (2:27)

¤ Tracks 1, 6 and 8 are out takes from And Their Refinement Of The Decline
¤ Tracks 2 and 3 are out takes from The Tired Sounds Of
¤ Track 4 is an out take from Maneuvering The Nocturnal Hum
¤ Track 7 was previously released as part of The Kahanek Incident - Volume 3
¤ Tracks 5 and 9 are previously unreleased (1999 and 1997 respectively)

krakow, Monday, 24 November 2008 19:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Ah, thank you for that!

I was going to say earlier, on one of the tracks there was the same deep, resonating, buttitch-inducing bass tone that comes up in "Requiem for Dying Mothers, pt. 2" on The Tired Sounds Of, so it doesn't surprise me that it's an outtake.

I am surprised that The Funereal is from way back in 1997. It's more "active" than most of their other material, particularly their stuff from back then.

nikefanatic90: Sup (Z S), Monday, 24 November 2008 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Stars of the Lid are planning a movie...

http://sunhammerpounding.blogspot.com/2008/11/stars-of-lid-plan-feature-film.html

Wonder if non-Youtube clips will embed?

http://vimeo.com/1847116?pg=embed&sec=1847116

Treblekicker, Thursday, 27 November 2008 23:26 (fifteen years ago) link

I heard that Adam was becoming sort of bored with the set list.

ian, Thursday, 27 November 2008 23:35 (fifteen years ago) link

lol

BIG HOOS is those british white steens (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 27 November 2008 23:55 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Had no idea that Brian had a new band: http://www.bellgardensmusic.com/

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 7 June 2010 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I think I'll pass on this one after hearing those samples.

Bilderbooger (van smack), Monday, 7 June 2010 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Roffle

http://spinalbap.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/blog-post.html

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:37 (eleven years ago) link

six months pass...

Live in London:

http://www.wegottickets.com/event/187786

itt: 'splaining men (ledge), Monday, 5 November 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link

can't believe it's been 5 years since And Their Refinement of the Decline.

but the boo boyz are getting to (Z S), Monday, 5 November 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link

does a new live gig mean there's a new album in the works?

tylerw, Monday, 5 November 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link

Promoter's page is silent on the matter. Going to have to spend the next month huffing their older stuff so I don't mistake it for new.

itt: 'splaining men (ledge), Monday, 5 November 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

this band remains really something.

itunes tells me i listened to tired sounds...167 times this year. that's not counting playing it on my phone, or on spotify, or on cd, or anything else. some days i think i could only listen to the two parts of "requiem..." happily for the rest of my life.

the oral history of (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 9 December 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

They played Requiem last night, and December Hunting, and er others - including a new piece. I read somewhere that you can't fully experience SotL without seeing them live which is always a bullshit line - sucks to be you if you never get the chance - but especially in this case when you really don't want the real world intruding on and distracting your experience. Yes I mean the hell of other people. The venue was fantastic, a large church, freezing cold which seemed oddly appropriate, and a wall with stained glass in the middle and large expanses of white plaster either side where the amazing visuals were projected. TBH the crowd weren't too bad, a few cameraphones here and there at the beginning and one bloke in front of me writing a text wtf you arsehole, but once December had reached its impossible series of ever increasing crescendos everyone that i could see was pretty much stunned into passivity. But there was a bar in the rear corner and in the quieter moments you could hear the clinking of bottles and chinking of cash drawers all the way through the gig. So overall it was awe-inspiring enough but I never achieved transcendence.

ledge, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 10:21 (eleven years ago) link

Also there was a loud crash in the middle of one of the songs, I looked around and up in the pulpit was the photographer leaning over and looking glum. Wasn't sure if he was just into the music but previously he'd been strolling round quite indifferently. Turns out he'd just knocked one of his lenses onto the floor ten feet below.

ledge, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link

Also I still feel like I've got a long way to go before I've internalised most of their stuff, but The Ballasted Orchestra is in to my top 3 with a bullet.

ledge, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link

Ledge did you see the concert at St Giles a couple of years ago?

MaresNest, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

I fell asleep standing up the last time I saw these guys live

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link

You couldn't have fallen asleep during "December...", bass was immense. Didn't see them at St Giles (4 years ago more like), I saw them at ATP around the same time but that setting lends itself even less well to transcendence, although reasonably well to a kind of semi-distracted acquiescence.

ledge, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link

I only fell asleep for like 10 mins, the show was great, but still

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

uuuuuuugh, i can't TAKE these long waits between records!! it's KILLING ME

it's been about 6 years now since refinement. same as between tired sounds and refinement (2001-2007)

uuumnnnnnnngggh

"reading specialist" (Z S), Thursday, 3 January 2013 03:45 (eleven years ago) link

there's a new kate bush album

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 3 January 2013 04:32 (eleven years ago) link

eleven months pass...

last week's NYT review of a 'rare performance' of the band, says there's a "forthcoming album." it didn't say when the new disc would be released, but it gave me hope for something new in 2014.

Daniel, Esq 2, Thursday, 26 December 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link

for real, how long has it been since the last one? jeez.
wonder if there's a recording of this set out there hmmm

tylerw, Thursday, 26 December 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link

damn this show looks like it was amazing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezG4FgNjZJk

tylerw, Thursday, 26 December 2013 21:03 (ten years ago) link

from their FB page - "thank you for everyone that came out in the NYC area. lovely review in the times. we are humbled by your continued support, and hope to have something finished sooner than later, so stay tuned...."

tylerw, Thursday, 26 December 2013 21:05 (ten years ago) link

There's also a pic on their Facebook page, if you scroll a bit, from recording sessions.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 27 December 2013 05:57 (ten years ago) link

That NYC clip, damn. Excited to hear that they're still together and that more music is forthcoming. I thought that Adam had indefinitely shifted his focus to Winged Victory for the Sullen (whom I also adore, to be fair.)

doug watson, Friday, 27 December 2013 12:00 (ten years ago) link

"Winged Victory for the Sullen" is another great name

it's a boy!, Friday, 27 December 2013 14:11 (ten years ago) link

He's apparently doing both: AWVFTS just put out a new song: http://open.spotify.com/album/3h2DxHzPLS2xxJ1j6es3Ss

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 27 December 2013 20:36 (ten years ago) link

http://www.wqxr.org/#!/story/stars-lid-and-wordless-music-orchestra/

toby, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 07:32 (ten years ago) link

Lately I have been listening to Brian McBride's first solo album, When the Detail Lost Its Freedom, and damn if it's not every bit as good as Tired Sounds and Refinement.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 2 January 2014 22:16 (ten years ago) link

good stuff

optional and mutable (it's a boy!), Friday, 3 January 2014 03:41 (ten years ago) link

this music really lets you breath

optional and mutable (it's a boy!), Sunday, 5 January 2014 02:28 (ten years ago) link

One of my favorite bands... excited for new music!

octobeard, Sunday, 5 January 2014 03:38 (ten years ago) link

I like Wiltzie's album more than the last few AWVFTS albums though it's still just okay. Generally like the vibe but nothing grabbing me the way the best SOTL stuff does.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Monday, 8 April 2024 18:55 (one week ago) link

Yeah I found Winged Victory disappointing too. Can’t believe those SOTL albums are 20+ years old

starting to think McBride was the secret weapon

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 8 April 2024 19:22 (one week ago) link

If you’ve listened to his first solo album, it’s absolutely clear he was the secret weapon

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Monday, 8 April 2024 19:50 (one week ago) link

^^^ love it as much as SotL

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 15:25 (one week ago) link

Me too

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 16:03 (one week ago) link


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