― AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 23 August 2004 22:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 23 August 2004 23:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Monday, 23 August 2004 23:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― Don, Monday, 23 August 2004 23:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 23 August 2004 23:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Don, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 00:54 (nineteen years ago) link
According to this Best Of Grunge tape from Caroline Records my dad bought me in middle school, Tin Machine was grunge.
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 00:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 01:07 (nineteen years ago) link
Why did so many '80s band names consist of the same word twice?
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 01:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dallred, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 01:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hergefrombeyondthegrave (Wooden), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 01:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dallr, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 01:47 (nineteen years ago) link
An alternate view is that "hard rock" is seeing its evolutionary niche taken over by "hardcore rap" which represents a Hegelian synthesis of the dialectic strains of Dionysian hair metal and Appollonian grunge.
― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 01:48 (nineteen years ago) link
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― artdamages (artdamages), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 03:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dallpark, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 03:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― shookout (shookout), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 03:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― nabiscothingy, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 03:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 03:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Don, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 03:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― do, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 04:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 04:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 04:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 04:13 (nineteen years ago) link
David Coverdale hired Steve Vai and Aynsley Dunbar = APOLLONIAN
this is simple, people.
And yes, echoing Shookout, the godliness of the Screaming Trees can't be affirmed enough.
― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 04:20 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.angelfire.com/film/princepurplerain/apollonia.jpg
― wetmink (wetmink), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 04:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 04:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― wetmink (wetmink), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 04:26 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.operagloves.com/Modernstars/PrincesBeauties/apollonia-2a.jpg
― wetmink (wetmink), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 04:28 (nineteen years ago) link
"Come Out And Play" by The Offspring
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 07:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 07:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 07:48 (nineteen years ago) link
*(insert name of any 3rd rate late '80's-early '90's lammo brit "indie" band here)
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 07:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 12:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dallpark, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 13:16 (nineteen years ago) link
Grunge = introverted, sarcastic, angry, chaste, restrained, self-conscious, heroin, hardcore
Hair Metal = extroverted, shallow, playful, libidinous, transgressive, self-forgetful, cocaine, glam
While grunge (like any loud rock music) still partakes of a Dionysian element, I would say that it represents somewhat of a retreat to a more Apollonian restraint. This is especially notable in its sartorial conservativeness and relative asexuality.
― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 13:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dab, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 14:13 (nineteen years ago) link
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― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 22:02 (nineteen years ago) link
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― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 22:14 (nineteen years ago) link
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― AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 22:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 02:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 02:11 (nineteen years ago) link
The question "how important was grunge" means nothing until you define grunge, and even that means nothing here because ILM has already decided that Nirvana was a worthless band, and this is all just clever jabs at passing fads. Grunge was what indie is, a hip genre label that helps you sell stuff. A question like "How Important Of A Single was Smells Like Teen Spirit?" might get us a little closer to the answer I think we're after, but still.
― Shaun (shaun), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 02:47 (nineteen years ago) link
more like a small bunch of very vocal detractors have decided they're a worthless band.
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 02:58 (nineteen years ago) link
'She Hates Me' was so Nirvana-for-tweens
― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Friday, 17 April 2009 16:23 (fourteen years ago) link
That is true pipecock they do deserve credit for that, too. As I said I was a big fan at the time. I did not mean to be hard on them. As far the aping of their sound; it is almost always a failure anyway (these bands try) but it annoys anyway.I also agree with you on why Mudhoney still sound good.
― chad, Friday, 17 April 2009 16:23 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm not saying they're super Nirvana-ish, but if you were gonna trace their sound to any of the big grunge bands, it would be Nirvana. it works that way for most big active rock bands of the past decade, really...Shinedown = Soundgarden, Godsmack = Alice In Chains, etc.
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― some dude, Friday, 17 April 2009 16:25 (fourteen years ago) link
i remember arguing about the merits of Godsmack with a coworker at the corporate CD store i worked at when they came out in 1999. i was like "they sound just like AIC but worse, they named themselves after one of their songs for godsakes!!" that guy finally just last year sent me a myspace apologizing for defending them.
― pipecock, Friday, 17 April 2009 16:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Godsmack certainly stole their name from AiC, and they have a few moments of atmospheric gloom which recalls Dirt...Voodoo is prolley one that most readily comes to mind...but if there is any numetal ripoff song which truly captures the spirit of what AiC is all about, it was Incubus' "Drive"...
― jagged-electronically mäandernden underbody (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 17 April 2009 16:36 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.subpop.com/catalog/discography
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 18 April 2009 18:48 (fourteen years ago) link