http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/1178116/stupid-sexy-flanders-o.gif
― Here's the storify, of a lovely ladify (Phil D.), Thursday, 8 August 2013 16:02 (ten years ago) link
it's easy not to be fascinated by a quadrennial tarted-up clusterfuck that has room for ppl jumping over things on horses, but not baseball.
"deadened," man, better than being wished dead i guess
― Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 August 2013 16:04 (ten years ago) link
i thought baseball was in?
if it's not, i can see why not tho. not enough countries! cricket ain't in there either.
― R'LIAH (goole), Thursday, 8 August 2013 16:06 (ten years ago) link
They voted it out in 2005.
― Here's the storify, of a lovely ladify (Phil D.), Thursday, 8 August 2013 16:08 (ten years ago) link
people jumping over things on horses is pretty cool, wish they would speed it up a bit tho
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 8 August 2013 16:28 (ten years ago) link
TANK!
― joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 8 August 2013 16:37 (ten years ago) link
lol you got caught being a straight republican instead of just a libertarian, just own up and move on already― balls, Wednesday, August 7, 2013 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― balls, Wednesday, August 7, 2013 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
In Los Angeles, I don't recall there being enough black people for them to stand out in my memory.― c21m50nh3x460n, Wednesday, August 7, 2013 7:14 PM― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, August 7, 2013 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― c21m50nh3x460n, Wednesday, August 7, 2013 7:14 PM
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, August 7, 2013 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it's one thing to link to a bunch of articles about TSA employees being corrupt/whateverit's another to say you can guess what "type" of people they are just by looking at them. i mean what do you glean by looking at them other than gender/race/weight and the fact that they are working a shitty, low-paying job? i mean, yeah, you can probably surmise that they weren't born with silver spoons in their mouths b/c they are, after all, working a shitty job. but beyond that...?― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, August 7, 2013 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it's another to say you can guess what "type" of people they are just by looking at them. i mean what do you glean by looking at them other than gender/race/weight and the fact that they are working a shitty, low-paying job? i mean, yeah, you can probably surmise that they weren't born with silver spoons in their mouths b/c they are, after all, working a shitty job. but beyond that...?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, August 7, 2013 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
First, let me make sure I understand what you're saying. You're criticising me for making an assumption about these people, but by doing so, you yourself are making an assumption about me with just a couple of lines over an Internet forum. Um...is this some type of joke? Let's put that aside for now, though.
I am not judging the TSA by "looking at them". I am judging them by how they treat me, their approach, their tone, demeanour, mannerisms. Do I really have to say that this is a human element all of us do? And when I say "type", I mean "poor work ethic". I'm in the strange position of being able to offer negative anecdotal experience but cannot because it is too personal. But suffice it to say that I know people who have been treated poorly by the TSA, including myself, on various occasions, including some who were involved in getting banned from the US, and another who flies twice a week for two years. All of us have experience flying into or through the US. And actually, I wouldn't even be able to surmise that these people weren't born with silver spoons. You seem determined to make this about race, which I'll get to in a minute. My comment was a reference to their attitude and professional work ethic. You can have poor work ethic regardless of the colour of your skin. I would never make a comment like the one I did were it not for strong evidence of the TSA's corruption. But with first-hand and anecdotal experience plus the numbers, I feel I can do so.
With regard to US race issues, I can only view it from the perspective of a foreigner who has travelled in and through the US. Notice this isn't the race thread. I do not pretend to understand the nuances of race in American life. In fact, a lot of it leaves me perplexed, to be honest with you. I am not American and do not think I have the acuteness or sensitivity to speak to racism in America, because I have not lived here all my life.
I feel like we're talking across from each other. Or we're having separate arguments.
I love your country and multiculturalism. It is one of many things I love about living in Los Angeles. Each city/country has its pros and cons, though, and I was simply highlighting something that had already been proven to be the case. I was not trying to make a controversial commentary on race in doublespeak. Again, I don't think I understand enough of race dynamics in the US to do so, so if I ever do talk about it, I'd probably tread carefully and approach it from a "learner's/beginner's" point of view, if that makes sense.
― c21m50nh3x460n, Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:01 (ten years ago) link
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9287652/images/gifs/getout.gif
― max, Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:07 (ten years ago) link
But anyway, the reason I came in looking for this thread, was because of this little gem:
http://money.cnn.com/2013/08/05/technology/social/snowden-vkontakte/
So, Snowden has been offered a job at VKontakte, the Russian social networking site.
― c21m50nh3x460n, Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:09 (ten years ago) link
i will say i scanned past all those paragraphs and then my eyes fell on "I love your country" and I lol'd irl
― BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:34 (ten years ago) link
^
― blinded by aggro (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:39 (ten years ago) link
Sorry, it sounds trite, but it is true :)
― c21m50nh3x460n, Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:40 (ten years ago) link
"mansplain"
― k3vin k., Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:40 (ten years ago) link
http://iusbvision.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/yakov-smirnoff.jpg
― R'LIAH (goole), Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:42 (ten years ago) link
otm
― BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:55 (ten years ago) link
the olympics are incredible, good grief
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 8 August 2013 18:03 (ten years ago) link
and i don't even like sports
EXACTLY
― Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 August 2013 18:06 (ten years ago) link
haha
― k3vin k., Thursday, 8 August 2013 18:13 (ten years ago) link
― blinded by aggro (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 8 August 2013 18:32 (ten years ago) link
hahaha love the olympics (though yeah fuck american coverage and not just cuz dumb time delays and bio sketches) but if we boycott one definitely let it be a winter olympics, some real sketchy symbolism w/ the winter olympics period.
― balls, Thursday, 8 August 2013 20:18 (ten years ago) link
here we go
― balls, Thursday, 8 August 2013 20:32 (ten years ago) link
lol this georgia shit again
― R'LIAH (goole), Thursday, 8 August 2013 20:46 (ten years ago) link
(not you balls)
dudes sure do miss the good old cold war days huh
― waterface down (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 August 2013 20:51 (ten years ago) link
who will direct the cold war reboot
― maven with rockabilly glasses (Matt P), Thursday, 8 August 2013 20:54 (ten years ago) link
michael bay duh
― blinded by aggro (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 8 August 2013 20:58 (ten years ago) link
im guessing that fred thompson has a lot of free time on his hands these days, time to expand his role in the entertainment industry
― waterface down (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 August 2013 21:08 (ten years ago) link
http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/8/4602966/email-service-used-by-edward-snowden-abruptly-shuts-down-to-avoid
― i too went to college (silby), Thursday, 8 August 2013 21:20 (ten years ago) link
if we boycott one definitely let it be a winter olympics, some real sketchy symbolism w/ the winter olympics period.
yeah
― max, Thursday, 8 August 2013 22:00 (ten years ago) link
http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/8/4602966/email-service-used-by-edward-snowden-abruptly-shuts-down-to-avoid― i too went to college (silby), Thursday, August 8, 2013 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― i too went to college (silby), Thursday, August 8, 2013 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― c21m50nh3x460n, Thursday, 8 August 2013 22:10 (ten years ago) link
looks like a 4602966 to me
― blinded by aggro (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 8 August 2013 22:35 (ten years ago) link
hmmmm.....
http://www.josepvinaixa.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Katy-Perry-Prism-Promotional-2013-1200x1200.png
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 8 August 2013 23:09 (ten years ago) link
I kissed NSA and I liked it
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 8 August 2013 23:10 (ten years ago) link
http://preview.reuters.com/2013/8/9/nsa-to-cut-system-administrators-by-90-percent-to
― It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Friday, 9 August 2013 02:43 (ten years ago) link
Nothing can backfire with this plan, right.
can we plz install a lockbox outside the door there
― BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 9 August 2013 19:59 (ten years ago) link
he's on it
http://media.cleveland.com/nationworld_impact/photo/al-gore-social-securityjpg-16139c5b64004bc8_large.jpg
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 August 2013 20:06 (ten years ago) link
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-to-announce-proposals-to-reform-nsa-surveillance/2013/08/09/ee3d6762-011a-11e3-9711-3708310f6f4d_story.html?hpid=z1
Obama at press conference expressing support for some changes while still claiming Snowden could have contested procedures here as a whistleblower
― curmudgeon, Friday, 9 August 2013 20:21 (ten years ago) link
http://preview.reuters.com/2013/8/9/nsa-to-cut-system-administrators-by-90-percent-to― It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Thursday, August 8, 2013 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Thursday, August 8, 2013 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Still, I'm not sure letting go of 90% of their sysadmins is anywhere close to the right solution. Like I said, it'll be interesting to see what these people will do with their knowledge when they look for work elsewhere.
― c21m50nh3x460n, Friday, 9 August 2013 20:24 (ten years ago) link
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/09/lavabit-shutdown-snowden-silicon-valley
One of the most remarkable, and I think enduring, aspects of the NSA stories is how much open defiance there has been of the US government. Numerous countries around the world have waved away threats, from Hong Kong and Russia to multiple Latin American nations. Populations around the world are expressing serious indignation at the NSA and at their own government to the extent they have collaborated. And now Lavabit has shut itself down rather than participate in what it calls "crimes against the American people", and in doing so, has gone to the legal limits in order to tell us all what has happened. There will undoubtedly be more acts inspired by Snowden's initial choice to unravel his own life to make the world aware of what the US government has been doing in the dark.
― c21m50nh3x460n, Friday, 9 August 2013 20:25 (ten years ago) link
the automization of a lot of grunt work was probably happening anyway
― The concept of making the Zuiderzee docile (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 9 August 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link
*automatization*
Very true.
― c21m50nh3x460n, Friday, 9 August 2013 20:57 (ten years ago) link
Obama said he intends to work with Congress on proposals that would add an adversarial voice — effectively one advocating privacy rights — to the secret proceedings before the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. Several Democratic senators have proposed such a measure.
I believe there have been documented instances where the White House has said they will "work" with Congress, and that work consists of trying to water down the Congressional proposals.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 9 August 2013 21:08 (ten years ago) link
So, in summary:
- Snowden is not a patriot, yet we will look at changing the law- the US is a free country that welcomes open debate, yet we will charge Snowden and want him behind bars- we will come up with some new bureaucratic level to monitor the NSA
I wish I could come up with some snide remark or cynicism, but I am too damn disappointed in Obama's shenanigans.
― In the airplane over the .CSS (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 9 August 2013 21:11 (ten years ago) link
it's funny that he even feels the need to do this, it's not like he's going to appease anybody or win any more elections
― joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 August 2013 21:15 (ten years ago) link
Must be ego or vanity, I can't think of any other reason.
― In the airplane over the .CSS (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 9 August 2013 21:46 (ten years ago) link
there's the remote possibility that he is genuinely morally conflicted about his own power. but who knows really.
― joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 August 2013 21:47 (ten years ago) link
That's true, but just like other things he is morally conflicted about (wants Gitmo closed, but can't; wanted to radically change the US role and image in the world yet has drone attacks costing innocent lives every week etc etc), he never seems to surpass the helpless posture of someone morally conflicted. It always ends with Obama being morally conflicted, there is never the next step of showing people "I am morally conflicted but I will do something about it".
'Old Europe' (Germany, France, and because I live there, Holland) has been dormant for so long on so many issues. Obama was welcomed as if he was Christ that returned. I, for a big part, applauded his election with equal euphoria. But it is a bitter disappointment. He doesn't seem to 'get' how important all this is in this day and age.
The only thing I wish for is that 'Old Europe', turning its back on Obama right now and being bitterly disappointed in him, will pick this issue up and make it a priority. It's long overdue.
― In the airplane over the .CSS (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 9 August 2013 21:57 (ten years ago) link