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I haven't had a frankfurter in, I would say, forty-five years.

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j., Friday, 9 August 2013 16:57 (ten years ago) link

That robert weide doc mentioned upthread is on iplayer at the moment, v. highly recommended if you haven't seen it.

Random .mdb Memories (NotEnough), Friday, 9 August 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link

How Woody Became a Hack

... how could such a hurried, unrehearsed process not show up in the work? Watching post-2000 Allen films, nothing stands out so much as the lack of specificity in the performances. Sometimes the cast even sounds like it's running through a first-day table-read. Most actors will tell you that creating a fully rounded character is a process. Without adequate time to let that evolve, you are more often than not going to get performances heavy on emoting and archetype, light on originality and depth. (Perhaps this is the reason so many of Allen's male leads ape his famous inflections -- it's the only thing they have to latch onto.)

...Now consider this, from the book Directing Actors, by Judith Weston:

Woody Allen, in a 1994 New York magazine article, disclosed that the reason he uses one wide shot for most of his whole scenes is partly because it's quicker and cheaper, but mostly it is for the actors, because it is a way to "let them talk," and to allow overlapping.

It's the "quicker and cheaper" I'm interested in. Since 1977, Woody Allen has made at least one picture a year, an incredible streak. But consider what it takes to conceive, write, and direct a quality film, one that has something new to say and does it well. Could anyone produce such a movie on this tight schedule? Is it any wonder that Allen's camera setups are expedient, the themes repetitive, the acting cardboard, the characterizations clichéd? If Woody Allen were churning out genre potboilers, an assembly line approach might still yield a passable final product. But he's not; he continually attempts to wrestle, either comedically or dramatically with the deepest questions about the human condition. That takes time, effort, and most of all thought -- if you don't put these into it, if you're on automatic pilot, you're going to get a work that is basically stillborn.

http://www.kqed.org/arts/movies/article.jsp?essid=124365

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 17:08 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

thread about ronan

sleepingsignal, Thursday, 3 October 2013 05:07 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

What The Waht...

He then went home to change his bloody clothes and ate lunch at Wendy's before seeing a Woody Allen movie at Hollywood Hits, a theater not far from his Danvers home which he shares with his mother and two younger sisters, according to police.

http://news.yahoo.com/teen-raped-popular-teacher-killing-her-indictment-states-235247146--abc-news-topstories.html

Maintenance Engineer of Foolhardiness (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 24 November 2013 02:13 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

O'Hehir triages the films into 4 periods:

http://www.salon.com/2014/01/11/making_sense_of_woody_allens_confusing_career/

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Monday, 13 January 2014 22:59 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

more discussion on that one in the mia thread

Mia Farrow's son -- Ronan Seamus Farrow -- really creeps me out!

polyphonic, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 20:22 (ten years ago) link

pardon me, the ronan thread.

polyphonic, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 20:22 (ten years ago) link

ah, thanks, i am interested in discussion

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 20:26 (ten years ago) link

it's Broadway's feelgood hit of the spring!

http://bulletsoverbroadway.com/

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 February 2014 21:00 (ten years ago) link

five months pass...

Woody has weighed in on Gaza, I know you were all waiting.... also Colin Firth-Emma Stone film is imminent.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/07/18/woody-allen-on-magic-in-the-moonlight-the-crisis-in-gaza-new-york-city-and-those-allegations.html

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 July 2014 16:40 (nine years ago) link

NY Times profile felt like a journalist distancing himself from his assignment. "Woody has always lived in a world of illusion," etc., etc.

the one where, as balls alludes (Eazy), Monday, 21 July 2014 16:49 (nine years ago) link

a new ranking, entirely respectable; #2 often my favorite. Happily nothing from the 21st century nor Bullets over Broadway.

http://www.slantmagazine.com/house/2014/21/the-10-best-woody-allen-movies

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 July 2014 18:57 (nine years ago) link

years since 1969 where woody allen failed to release a new directorial effort:

1970, 1974, 1976, 1981

da croupier, Monday, 21 July 2014 20:50 (nine years ago) link

poll

mattresslessness, Monday, 21 July 2014 20:51 (nine years ago) link

life expectancy increased in each of those years

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 July 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link

in '70 Woody was wrapping up the Broadway run of Play It Again Sam, in '76 he had the lead role in The Front, '81 he had a play produced at Lincoln Center

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 July 2014 20:58 (nine years ago) link

nice sidestep by woody in the daily beast interview when asked about lena dunham

Iago Galdston, Monday, 21 July 2014 23:17 (nine years ago) link

feel it is more likely woody allen is the sleepy grampa he is describing there than that he is pulling jedi mind tricks on journalists

schlump, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 01:04 (nine years ago) link

he definitely knows who lena dunham is

Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 01:11 (nine years ago) link

i mean, she writes and directs a show called Girls, amirite?

Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 01:12 (nine years ago) link

and she called him a monster and a lousy filmmaker etc last winter

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 July 2014 14:36 (nine years ago) link

an interview centering on filmmaking technique, esp cinematography/editing

http://www.rogerebert.com/interviews/simply-do-it-talking-with-woody-allen-about-directorial-style

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 24 July 2014 20:44 (nine years ago) link

Cannot believe how much uncritical press (ie not mentioning Dylan Farrow) this guy is getting right now.

Immediate Follower (NA), Thursday, 24 July 2014 20:55 (nine years ago) link

are you serious

Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 July 2014 21:00 (nine years ago) link

Yes?

Immediate Follower (NA), Thursday, 24 July 2014 21:18 (nine years ago) link

NYT article had like one blithe paragraph in the middle, Chi Trib article (http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/movies/ct-woody-allen-magic-moonlight-20140723,0,4313909.column) has a couple of dismissive paragraphs

Immediate Follower (NA), Thursday, 24 July 2014 21:20 (nine years ago) link

I'm not defending the press, to be clear, just that I dunno why anyone would be surprised that some unpleasant allegations are conveniently swept under the rug when it comes time to promote the latest work of one of the most famous and widely regarded white male American film directors, now in his dotage.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 July 2014 21:24 (nine years ago) link

"now"

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 July 2014 21:24 (nine years ago) link

America happy to be entertained by murderers, child abusers, wifebeaters, racists etc. why would they stop now

lol Alfred, I did actually sweat the wording of that a little

xp

Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 July 2014 21:25 (nine years ago) link

Before the last round of scandal, it's hard to imagine Allen not on the cover of Arts & Leisure when a profile comes out.

the one where, as balls alludes (Eazy), Thursday, 24 July 2014 21:29 (nine years ago) link

Keep in mind that Woody Allen is the same age as the people who still pay for print subscriptions.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 July 2014 21:31 (nine years ago) link

nothing actionable or proven, so let's go on with the show fuckit

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 24 July 2014 21:33 (nine years ago) link

I'm sure that calculus is also foremost in the mind of the press - should they keep harping on these allegations knowing full well nothing will ever come of them, or should they keep feeding the well-oiled promotional machine that pays their bills. not a tough choice really.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 July 2014 21:36 (nine years ago) link

it's weird how people announce their surprise that people are surprised

like why doesn't your cynicism extend further

da croupier, Thursday, 24 July 2014 21:46 (nine years ago) link

I assume everyone is more cynical than I am

Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 July 2014 21:47 (nine years ago) link

back to the lost cause of Simon Abrams' ebert.com interview:

When I see cool films, no matter how beautiful they are, there's something off-putting about them. I have all my characters—or 99% of the characters—dress in autumnal clothes, beiges, and browns, and yellows, and greens. And I have [production designer and long-time collaborator] Santo Loquasto make the sets look as warm as possible. And I like the lighting to be very warm, and I color-correct things so that they're very red.

Sometimes, the cameraman will be shocked. Sven Nykvist said "My God, their faces will all look like tomatoes!"

And I said "Well, let's try it." He got to like it.

WA also says Brando was terrible at being funny... dunno, The Freshman

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Friday, 25 July 2014 14:37 (nine years ago) link

I particularly liked the section about editing Annie Hall. Ralph Rosenblum's book is one of my favourites.

a biscuit/donut hybrid called “bisnuts” (stevie), Friday, 25 July 2014 14:55 (nine years ago) link

^^^ me too

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 July 2014 15:00 (nine years ago) link

That was a cool interview, nice to hear Woody's thoughts on style, and a great Willis quote:

Gordon always used to paint with light. He'd do the fundamental lighting, and then he'd say "Ok, I've got the lighting basically done. Now I'm going to paint for a while."

re Farrow accusations do you think it's something journalists should address?

Also it seems to me (maybe something I picked up on the Blue Jasmine thread) that there's some antagonism towards recent Woody films on this board? I found Blue Jasmine and Midnight in Paris very very good, Whatever Works, Vicky Cristina Barcelona and Match Point very good and the rest of his post 2000 production really enjoyable.

niels, Friday, 25 July 2014 15:53 (nine years ago) link

imo its not per se that reviews need to hand-wring about the morality of liking a new emma stone movie, so much as their prose should be informed by the fact that their subject may not be an awesome guy just cuz he's consistently brought the middlebrow chuckles

da croupier, Friday, 25 July 2014 15:55 (nine years ago) link

i hated whatever works to death

a biscuit/donut hybrid called “bisnuts” (stevie), Friday, 25 July 2014 15:56 (nine years ago) link

that nyt piece about what a charming trickster woody is a pretty stunning example of how NOT to write about a successful filmmaker accused of molestation by their daughter

da croupier, Friday, 25 July 2014 15:56 (nine years ago) link

re hating Whatever Works to death, I've often had people tell me about Woody-films they absolutely could not stand (Vicky Cristina Barcelona, Midnight in Paris, Melinda and Melinda) and it's kind of weird to me because the good ones I don't see how anyone can dislike and the minor works are so innocuous and fun so why hate but then again hey that's just taste for you

niels, Friday, 25 July 2014 16:51 (nine years ago) link

I'm probably not good at seeing the whole Farrow case clearly because I like Woody Allen's movies a loooot but what would be a good moral stance on the thing then? Not having an opinion on it seems the most sensible thing to me - I'm glad that's what I did with Conor though I know that's not a fair analogy.

niels, Friday, 25 July 2014 17:01 (nine years ago) link

his minor works have become unwatchable, they don't even function as movies it's just a bunch of random shit on the screen. they're almost offensive in their tossed-off-ness. Of his post 2000 output I would rate them as follows:

Curse of the Jade Scorpion - v funny. didn't buy him as the romantic lead but whatever.
Hollywood Ending - the best part about this film was when it was over
Anything Else - Excruciating. Horrible, horrible cast.
Melinda and Melinda - Pointless. Drama wasn't dramatic and the comedy wasn't funny.
Match Point - P good, a nice change of pace.
Scoop - Awful.
Cassandra's Dream - Couldn't bring myself to watch a retread of Match Point.
Vicky Cristina Barcelona - omg wanted to murder every cliched character in this laugh-free apocalypse of trite bullshit
Whatever Works - Whatever definitely didn't work.
Midnight in Paris - another painful retread of earlier ideas, didn't really find any of the caricatures funny but did perk up when the multiple levels of fantasy started to accrete. of course then the movie ended.
To Rome With Love - Couldn't bring myself to watch a retread of Vicky Cristina Barcelona.
Blue Jasmine - Probably his most interesting since Match Point, although there were still all sorts of false notes and head-smacking stupid choices. But it hummed along smoothly, some quality acting, looked great.

Οὖτις, Friday, 25 July 2014 17:04 (nine years ago) link


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