people on twitter so mad. trying to understand why. i guess it boils down to:
1) shouldn't we fix BART / buses / systems that working class people use before building toys for rich people
2) LA-to-SF only is ridiculous, there's like a whole state in there
3) nobody wants to hear half-baked plans from an arrogant rich dude
still, i mean, it's pretty cool, right?
― eris bueller (lukas), Monday, 12 August 2013 22:55 (ten years ago) link
There are lots of problems everywhere all the time. Can't let it stop technology from moving forward.
There's a whole country, even! LA-to-SF sounds like a perfectly fine beta test.
Not all rich dudes are arrogant. Elon Musk has never struck me as anything close to that.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 12 August 2013 23:13 (ten years ago) link
people on twitter so mad.
who do you follow?
― markers, Monday, 12 August 2013 23:17 (ten years ago) link
i'm not getting that impression from all the tech ppl i follow
unveiling this while CA is deep in the hole with it's bullet-train project (something I support wholeheartedly btw) is pretty arrogant
― joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 12 August 2013 23:18 (ten years ago) link
You might be right, Johnny, dunno. I was just trying to figure out why there was this explosion of contempt all over my twitter feed after the announcement.
― eris bueller (lukas), Monday, 12 August 2013 23:19 (ten years ago) link
markers, here are some of the people that were entertainingly scathing: kalebhorton, quartzcity, tcarmody, mikesonn
― eris bueller (lukas), Monday, 12 August 2013 23:24 (ten years ago) link
i do follow tim but i guess whatever he said didn't stick
― markers, Monday, 12 August 2013 23:27 (ten years ago) link
cool monorail bro
― lag∞n, Monday, 12 August 2013 23:54 (ten years ago) link
lol
― markers, Monday, 12 August 2013 23:55 (ten years ago) link
i have a plan for a train that goes from boston to atlanta in 10mins, its called lasertrain and ill give you some cool drawings of it in a couple weeks, its ridiculous no one is building it btw it only costs $10
― lag∞n, Monday, 12 August 2013 23:59 (ten years ago) link
im not gonna build it tho cause im kinda busy
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:00 (ten years ago) link
even i can afford that
― markers, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:00 (ten years ago) link
isn't his point that hyperloop would be fraction of the cost and twice as fast?
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:02 (ten years ago) link
the douchey thing is that he made a big ol deal abt something thats not at all real
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:07 (ten years ago) link
Which is how 70% of architecture and urban planning works.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:10 (ten years ago) link
sure 70% that sounds totally realistic too
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:10 (ten years ago) link
I meant 94% sorry.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:12 (ten years ago) link
To me, it really sounds like a kickstarter project... but from a billionaire.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:17 (ten years ago) link
i mean who knows maybe its revolutionary technology but its so preliminary its p comical to call a press conference abt it
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:18 (ten years ago) link
maybe this is the best way to convince someone else to give it a shot idk
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:25 (ten years ago) link
LOL "elon musk"
― the late great, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 03:00 (ten years ago) link
This should keep us occupied for a while: http://www.spacex.com/hyperloop
― c21m50nh3x460n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 03:09 (ten years ago) link
I wasn't scathing about Musk (I am about futurism in general) - if anything, he has a good track record on quixotic tech quests. I hope he's successful with this. I also hope there's a state left that can use it.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 04:37 (ten years ago) link
Knowing how CA politics works (and the CA rail projects are amazingly political), how would you expect a non-arrogant to even get traction with this?
I have no doubt that Musk will solve the Hyperloop technical issues. I very much have doubts about him navigating Sacramento.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 04:40 (ten years ago) link
I was describing this to my wife today and kept calling it Supertube.
― "Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 05:14 (ten years ago) link
Bad connotations...
http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/supertrain-1_7696.jpg
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 05:21 (ten years ago) link
lol @ the "open source" pdf proposal. build a section of the thing and then get back to us when you have it working.
― wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 06:23 (ten years ago) link
Musk says the Hyperloop is best for distances of 900 miles. Beyond 900 miles, he thinks you're better off in a supersonic jet.
Lol
― joe sixpac hologram (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 11:33 (ten years ago) link
I never use my supersonic jet anymore as parking is always a total bitch
― joe sixpac hologram (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 11:35 (ten years ago) link
I have to say I rather like Elon Musk. He's made a massive pile of money and rather than sitting on it or managing it in mundane ways; he's making risky bets on thinks he's passionate about: Cars, Rockets, vacuum tubes.
Hyperloop seems a bit ridiculous to me, vacuum tube powered trains and trains in evacuated tubes are an old chestnut, almost as old as railways themselves. However, he's built a commercially viable private space programme and a car company* in the last ten years so anything is possible.
*Tesla isn't really a car company it's a power train company and if it is still making cars in 5 years I'll be surprised.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:18 (ten years ago) link
ya i'm kinda ll for crackpot genius billionaires actually doing interesting stuff, up until they become str8 up supervillains obv
― darraghmac, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link
lol @ the "open source" pdf proposal. build a section of the thing and then get back to us when you have it working.― wk, Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:23 AM
― wk, Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:23 AM
he might do this
― markers, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link
is this dude one of the crazy silicon valley libertarian types or is he just beloved by them?
― carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:27 (ten years ago) link
iirc he has liberal tendencies mixed in w the libertarianism
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:28 (ten years ago) link
xp I heard him speak and he seemed not crazy and to have some kind of social or at least environmental conscience, unlike the usual libertarian types, but maybe he's just better at hiding it
(I like him too fwiw and right now he seems one of the most likely "crackpot genius billionaires" to solve some hard problems which are overdue for solving, so I hope he carries on with that. Also hoping that one day I'll get to see/read his computer game that appeared in some 8-bit micro type-in listings mag in the 80s)
― the supreme personality of Godhead : a summary study (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:35 (ten years ago) link
he's not as bad as some of the other silicon valley libtards, I'll give him that.
nonetheless, this is a stupid proposal
― joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:35 (ten years ago) link
do tell
curious to read a critique that amounts to more than 'hyperlol'
― BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:48 (ten years ago) link
I think it's dumb that he's throwing around numbers when he doesn't even have a working prototype. It just seems like he's hoping to derail the other project. I also think the "open source" thing is pretty silly since it's not like code where an individual can make some kind of improvement and test it out to see if it works. I guess an open source design is an interesting idea after the fact if he actually gets it working and other people want to build his design, but it still seems basically irrelevant.
― wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link
Didn't he make his fortune with Peter thiel?I don't know if that is "guilt by association" or "looking better by comparison"
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link
It just seems like he's hoping to derail the other project
^^^
― joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:18 (ten years ago) link
A key part of his criticism of the other rail plan is that it's "more expensive to operate (if unsubsidized)." I'd like to see some more detailed numbers on that though. Why would we count the cost of unsubsidized rail against air travel which is heavily subsidized? All that really matters is cost to the traveller, and unlike airlines, I'm assuming the high speed rail system is not going to be run as a for-profit business. He also makes no comparison of the environmental costs of air flight vs. the planned high speed rail system.
― wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:26 (ten years ago) link
― eris bueller (lukas), Monday, August 12, 2013 11:24 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'm generally contemptuous of futurists, primarily because they seem to think energy and climate change problems will just sort themselves out, but a mass transit system that relies on solar power and transports people across one of the busiest stretches of highway in America is a good thing. I looked at the first two feeds you suggested and they seemed to just be saying this is just a toy for rich people, which is afaict completely unsupported by his proposal. He's not suggesting a magic carpet for billionaires; it's mass transit that uses solar power. This is a good thing! Maybe it's completely impossible hogwash, but I'd like to see actual engineering criticism of it instead of casual dismissals based on suspicion of ideas from rich people.
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:41 (ten years ago) link
the main challenges are not engineering-related, their political
― joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:43 (ten years ago) link
anybody who is over the age of 25, has lived in a city for any length of time, and paid a modicum of attention to the world around them knows that these kinds of massive public works projects tend to be underbid by shady contractors and then they go wildly over the original schedule and budget. so the fact that he's coming in saying he can do it so much cheaper with a totally new and untested technology is a huge red flag. to me it immediately suggests that the whole thing is not serious.
if he honestly thinks this is a feasible plan he should raise some funding and build a private line from LA to Vegas.
― wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:54 (ten years ago) link
It's transparently unserious in that he doesn't want to do it himself and "regrets even mentioning it"
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:08 (ten years ago) link
right, that aspect has been p funny
― BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:10 (ten years ago) link
haha, I missed that part
― wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:11 (ten years ago) link
ya seems like he said something offhandedly then realized abt his celebrity
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:12 (ten years ago) link
a mass transit system that relies on solar power and transports people across one of the busiest stretches of highway in America is a good thing.
people don't commute the LA to SF corridor though. i have a hard time believing a transit system would fill the role of the 5 freeway. it's mostly trucks anyway.
― the late great, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:13 (ten years ago) link
Tesla's senior vice president of powertrain and energy engineering, Drew Baglino, is leaving after 18 years at the auto-maker, he said in a post on social media site X on Monday. Tesla's vice president of public policy and business development, Rohan Patel, has also left the carmaker, according to a post on X by a Bloomberg News reporter.― Josh in Chicago, Monday, April 15, 2024 6:20 PM (four hours ago)
18 years, that's crazy. his net worth is probably in the 9 figures. hard to feel sorry for him
― 龜, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 03:13 (two days ago) link
what the fuck is he talking about
This guy is the dumbest motherfucker on earth pic.twitter.com/zhxfAHvqST— evan loves worf (@esjesjesj) April 16, 2024
― frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 03:30 (two days ago) link
like he's invented a scenario in which AI is killing millions of people and the thing that terrifies him is that it'll kill too many white people
― frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 03:36 (two days ago) link
the ai designed and implemented a genetic engineering program so that now there are babbies with 13 or 14 or more fingers
― schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 03:47 (two days ago) link
Would be more forceful if the (correct) Elon critic wasn’t paying Elon for exposure.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 06:40 (two days ago) link
Elon bought Twitter so he could essentially spend every day shouting via it, "I am the Emperor and I am naked as fuck"
― Is he an evil man who makes chocolate or is the chocolate itself evil? (stevie), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 07:57 (two days ago) link
lol @ the cybertruck message board there are so many damn issues with this thing
https://www.cybertruckownersclub.com/forum/forums/issues-repairs-warranty-recalls.66/
― frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:37 (two days ago) link
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, April 16, 2024 1:40 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
I don't think he is, a bunch of people got blue checks over the last couple weeks against their will
also one more thing that bothers me
https://i.imgur.com/kE5lGFn.png
"namespace" is a term which actually means something, anyone who's ever done any programming should be familiar with it, and he's using it to refer to the pool of available usernames on Twitter. like this comp sci shit is supposed to be one area he's actually competent in but all the evidence just points to him being a huge idiot there too. people are so eager to give him the benefit of the doubt because he's awkward and dorky, instead it's more like what if Sheldon from Bing Bong Theory was actually just a huge dumbass. I mean take it from me, I played Magic: the Gathering for 15 years, these people absolutely do exist. sometimes they have emerald mines and government contracts I guess.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:45 (two days ago) link
bullies snatched my namespace
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:56 (two days ago) link
if only there was something that Elon Musk, owner, executive chairman, and CTO of X Corp, could do about these "bot armies"
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:00 (two days ago) link
pretty funny how he claimed he was buying twitter to get rid of the bots
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:01 (two days ago) link
“if i did it (that is, added more bots to twitter)”
― polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:17 (two days ago) link
he also claimed he was making a car where the steering wheel did not just whiff out the window when you are driving
― frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:19 (two days ago) link
a great yoke that doesnt fly off your hand
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:24 (two days ago) link
Great user names like Cindy0737396354
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:25 (two days ago) link
odd that he didnt understand that firing everyone would effect things like controlling spam, sure you can keep the core product running kind of ok but all the other stuff is going to massively suffer, and those things matter people dont want pussy in bio in their replies
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:28 (two days ago) link
what happened to his plan of charging all new users $1 to register?
― 龜, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:46 (two days ago) link
xp He probably believed, and still believes, that the problem could be fixed easily by just writing the right magic code that will solve all the problems and Twitter employed all those humans because of woke or something. I’m surprised he isn’t babbling on now about how “AI” will fix everything.
― President of the Canadian Council of Bassoonists (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:54 (two days ago) link
He speaks like a midlevel manager who's picked up the latest buzzword round the conference table and starts using it every other sentence.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 21:55 (two days ago) link
this giy is worth billions, this toilet gonna flush sooo long, or we can just say the serenity prayer for about 5 billion minutes
― schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 01:04 (yesterday) link
Another day, another cybertruck fail"CT windshield did not withstand a freak sudden hailstorm in Austin, rest of vehicle seems fine. None of the other cars parked next to it had windshield damage but they had lots of dings in their body. Pretty disappointing, will let y’all know how much it costs to fix"https://www.reddit.com/r/cybertruck/comments/1c07zlw/ct_windshield_did_not_withstand_a_freak_sudden/
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 05:55 (yesterday) link
Truck seems to be entering the league of the Edsel and the Pinto in automotive legend
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 06:09 (yesterday) link
ddr2sodimmWonder if flat shape and shallow angle makes it easier to break. Bad either way.
booboothechickenIf that theory holds true, the good news would mean that it’s much more resistant to the more common occurrence of rock chips being kicked up from the road. Just bad for the small chance of things falling from the sky.
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 12:12 (yesterday) link
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-17/tesla-asks-shareholders-to-re-ratify-musk-s-56-billion-payout
would be funny if this failed. unfortunately it probably won't
― 龜, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 13:19 (yesterday) link
aww
“Because the Delaware Court second-guessed your decision, Elon has not been paid for any of his work for Tesla for the past six years that has helped to generate significant growth and stockholder value”
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 13:26 (yesterday) link
the cybertruck can withstand gunfire but not the car wash
$TSLA Cybertruck owners .. 1) do NOT wash your car in sunlight and 2) do NOT tell Tesla SCs that you drove it through a car wash (like this guy) even if you turned on Car Wash Mode. They will void your warranty. 💀 pic.twitter.com/eXpaxlm2X6— Stonk King (((🌕))) (@StonkKing4) April 16, 2024
― memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 16:33 (yesterday) link
How is Tesla not getting class action sued into oblivion? I guess more to follow…
― The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 16:48 (yesterday) link
yeah gotta think it coming
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 16:49 (yesterday) link
well, they are like school in summer tbh
― schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 16:50 (yesterday) link
What's a Tesla SC?
― peace, man, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 17:02 (yesterday) link
Service centre?
― m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 17:04 (yesterday) link
Ah, that makes sense. They also have Super Chargers, and I was pretty sure it wasn't that.
― peace, man, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 17:18 (yesterday) link
real $TSLA-heads pivoting to the LIVER KING lifestyle (never wash yr ass, never wash yr cybertruck)
― mark s, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 17:56 (yesterday) link
someone sent this to me and I'm fucking dying pic.twitter.com/LIj2F9OAwE— mr pussy (@_mrpussy) April 17, 2024
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Thursday, 18 April 2024 00:32 (three hours ago) link
lmao get em
― lag∞n, Thursday, 18 April 2024 00:33 (three hours ago) link
Tesla should be renamed Douchewagon anyway, it would be more accurate.
― The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Thursday, 18 April 2024 01:01 (two hours ago) link