i'm not getting that impression from all the tech ppl i follow
― markers, Monday, 12 August 2013 23:17 (ten years ago) link
unveiling this while CA is deep in the hole with it's bullet-train project (something I support wholeheartedly btw) is pretty arrogant
― joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 12 August 2013 23:18 (ten years ago) link
You might be right, Johnny, dunno. I was just trying to figure out why there was this explosion of contempt all over my twitter feed after the announcement.
― eris bueller (lukas), Monday, 12 August 2013 23:19 (ten years ago) link
markers, here are some of the people that were entertainingly scathing: kalebhorton, quartzcity, tcarmody, mikesonn
― eris bueller (lukas), Monday, 12 August 2013 23:24 (ten years ago) link
i do follow tim but i guess whatever he said didn't stick
― markers, Monday, 12 August 2013 23:27 (ten years ago) link
cool monorail bro
― lag∞n, Monday, 12 August 2013 23:54 (ten years ago) link
lol
― markers, Monday, 12 August 2013 23:55 (ten years ago) link
i have a plan for a train that goes from boston to atlanta in 10mins, its called lasertrain and ill give you some cool drawings of it in a couple weeks, its ridiculous no one is building it btw it only costs $10
― lag∞n, Monday, 12 August 2013 23:59 (ten years ago) link
im not gonna build it tho cause im kinda busy
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:00 (ten years ago) link
even i can afford that
― markers, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:00 (ten years ago) link
isn't his point that hyperloop would be fraction of the cost and twice as fast?
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:02 (ten years ago) link
the douchey thing is that he made a big ol deal abt something thats not at all real
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:07 (ten years ago) link
Which is how 70% of architecture and urban planning works.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:10 (ten years ago) link
sure 70% that sounds totally realistic too
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:10 (ten years ago) link
I meant 94% sorry.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:12 (ten years ago) link
To me, it really sounds like a kickstarter project... but from a billionaire.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:17 (ten years ago) link
i mean who knows maybe its revolutionary technology but its so preliminary its p comical to call a press conference abt it
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:18 (ten years ago) link
maybe this is the best way to convince someone else to give it a shot idk
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:25 (ten years ago) link
LOL "elon musk"
― the late great, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 03:00 (ten years ago) link
This should keep us occupied for a while: http://www.spacex.com/hyperloop
― c21m50nh3x460n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 03:09 (ten years ago) link
I wasn't scathing about Musk (I am about futurism in general) - if anything, he has a good track record on quixotic tech quests. I hope he's successful with this. I also hope there's a state left that can use it.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 04:37 (ten years ago) link
Knowing how CA politics works (and the CA rail projects are amazingly political), how would you expect a non-arrogant to even get traction with this?
I have no doubt that Musk will solve the Hyperloop technical issues. I very much have doubts about him navigating Sacramento.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 04:40 (ten years ago) link
I was describing this to my wife today and kept calling it Supertube.
― "Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 05:14 (ten years ago) link
Bad connotations...
http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/supertrain-1_7696.jpg
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 05:21 (ten years ago) link
lol @ the "open source" pdf proposal. build a section of the thing and then get back to us when you have it working.
― wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 06:23 (ten years ago) link
Musk says the Hyperloop is best for distances of 900 miles. Beyond 900 miles, he thinks you're better off in a supersonic jet.
Lol
― joe sixpac hologram (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 11:33 (ten years ago) link
I never use my supersonic jet anymore as parking is always a total bitch
― joe sixpac hologram (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 11:35 (ten years ago) link
I have to say I rather like Elon Musk. He's made a massive pile of money and rather than sitting on it or managing it in mundane ways; he's making risky bets on thinks he's passionate about: Cars, Rockets, vacuum tubes.
Hyperloop seems a bit ridiculous to me, vacuum tube powered trains and trains in evacuated tubes are an old chestnut, almost as old as railways themselves. However, he's built a commercially viable private space programme and a car company* in the last ten years so anything is possible.
*Tesla isn't really a car company it's a power train company and if it is still making cars in 5 years I'll be surprised.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:18 (ten years ago) link
ya i'm kinda ll for crackpot genius billionaires actually doing interesting stuff, up until they become str8 up supervillains obv
― darraghmac, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link
lol @ the "open source" pdf proposal. build a section of the thing and then get back to us when you have it working.― wk, Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:23 AM
― wk, Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:23 AM
he might do this
― markers, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link
is this dude one of the crazy silicon valley libertarian types or is he just beloved by them?
― carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:27 (ten years ago) link
iirc he has liberal tendencies mixed in w the libertarianism
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:28 (ten years ago) link
xp I heard him speak and he seemed not crazy and to have some kind of social or at least environmental conscience, unlike the usual libertarian types, but maybe he's just better at hiding it
(I like him too fwiw and right now he seems one of the most likely "crackpot genius billionaires" to solve some hard problems which are overdue for solving, so I hope he carries on with that. Also hoping that one day I'll get to see/read his computer game that appeared in some 8-bit micro type-in listings mag in the 80s)
― the supreme personality of Godhead : a summary study (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:35 (ten years ago) link
he's not as bad as some of the other silicon valley libtards, I'll give him that.
nonetheless, this is a stupid proposal
― joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:35 (ten years ago) link
do tell
curious to read a critique that amounts to more than 'hyperlol'
― BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:48 (ten years ago) link
I think it's dumb that he's throwing around numbers when he doesn't even have a working prototype. It just seems like he's hoping to derail the other project. I also think the "open source" thing is pretty silly since it's not like code where an individual can make some kind of improvement and test it out to see if it works. I guess an open source design is an interesting idea after the fact if he actually gets it working and other people want to build his design, but it still seems basically irrelevant.
― wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link
Didn't he make his fortune with Peter thiel?I don't know if that is "guilt by association" or "looking better by comparison"
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link
It just seems like he's hoping to derail the other project
^^^
― joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:18 (ten years ago) link
A key part of his criticism of the other rail plan is that it's "more expensive to operate (if unsubsidized)." I'd like to see some more detailed numbers on that though. Why would we count the cost of unsubsidized rail against air travel which is heavily subsidized? All that really matters is cost to the traveller, and unlike airlines, I'm assuming the high speed rail system is not going to be run as a for-profit business. He also makes no comparison of the environmental costs of air flight vs. the planned high speed rail system.
― wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:26 (ten years ago) link
― eris bueller (lukas), Monday, August 12, 2013 11:24 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'm generally contemptuous of futurists, primarily because they seem to think energy and climate change problems will just sort themselves out, but a mass transit system that relies on solar power and transports people across one of the busiest stretches of highway in America is a good thing. I looked at the first two feeds you suggested and they seemed to just be saying this is just a toy for rich people, which is afaict completely unsupported by his proposal. He's not suggesting a magic carpet for billionaires; it's mass transit that uses solar power. This is a good thing! Maybe it's completely impossible hogwash, but I'd like to see actual engineering criticism of it instead of casual dismissals based on suspicion of ideas from rich people.
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:41 (ten years ago) link
the main challenges are not engineering-related, their political
― joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:43 (ten years ago) link
anybody who is over the age of 25, has lived in a city for any length of time, and paid a modicum of attention to the world around them knows that these kinds of massive public works projects tend to be underbid by shady contractors and then they go wildly over the original schedule and budget. so the fact that he's coming in saying he can do it so much cheaper with a totally new and untested technology is a huge red flag. to me it immediately suggests that the whole thing is not serious.
if he honestly thinks this is a feasible plan he should raise some funding and build a private line from LA to Vegas.
― wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:54 (ten years ago) link
It's transparently unserious in that he doesn't want to do it himself and "regrets even mentioning it"
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:08 (ten years ago) link
right, that aspect has been p funny
― BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:10 (ten years ago) link
haha, I missed that part
― wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:11 (ten years ago) link
ya seems like he said something offhandedly then realized abt his celebrity
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:12 (ten years ago) link
a mass transit system that relies on solar power and transports people across one of the busiest stretches of highway in America is a good thing.
people don't commute the LA to SF corridor though. i have a hard time believing a transit system would fill the role of the 5 freeway. it's mostly trucks anyway.
― the late great, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:13 (ten years ago) link
You know what would do really well in transportation corridors like that? Plain old freight trains.
I swear, the interstate highway system and the fact it's mostly used for semi truck freight is the biggest money hole in our post-WW2 car-dependent wonderland
― carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:15 (ten years ago) link
there already are freight trains
― wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:16 (ten years ago) link
people don't commute the LA to SF corridor though.
?! they most certainly do. there are these things called commuter flights, they are booked solid all the time.
― joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link
when they originally agreed to give him the $50b it was tied to extremely unlikely future stock gains, then the stock went nuts, now he wants that money straight up, why would anyone agree to give it to him its very silly hes trying to extort them by saying hell work more at his other companies if he doesnt get it but hes already doing that, if owning 10% of the company already doesnt motivate him to actually work there why will another fifty billion, the whole situation is absurd, they should just give me the money to work on secret projects
― lag∞n, Friday, 19 April 2024 21:30 (four days ago) link
rip institutional bulls. just the cranks now.
We were correct to reduce our $TSLA position from 12.2% in Sept 2022 to 2.7% today because of our concern about deteriorating fundamentals. In hindsight we should have sold our entire $TSLA position rather than kept a small % of it. We were right that cutting prices wouldn’t… https://t.co/bAP97xDIdO— Gary Black (@garyblack00) April 20, 2024
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 20 April 2024 20:24 (three days ago) link
thats good the cranks can buy all the stock then vote to give elon his fifty billion back
― lag∞n, Saturday, 20 April 2024 20:32 (three days ago) link
We don’t care about reality, we believe
After all those hours of conversations with bulls, you still don't get it, Gary. It's not that you're wrong, it's just that those things don't matter much to us.True bulls are invested for >10-20 yrs. We are not traders, we are investors in the greatest entrepreneur of all time.— Val 💃 (@ExcusedEarly) April 20, 2024
― papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 21 April 2024 00:49 (two days ago) link
For over a decade Bernie Madoff looked like the smartest, most successful investor on Wall Street and wealthy people clamored to be allowed to participate in hedge fund. It was like owning a license to print money.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 21 April 2024 02:41 (two days ago) link
All the crypto HODLs said exactly the same thing
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 21 April 2024 23:54 (two days ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/leFmrNv.png
― lag∞n, Monday, 22 April 2024 00:34 (yesterday) link
you to love to see it
https://i.imgur.com/tzu9dtO.png
― mark s, Monday, 22 April 2024 14:39 (yesterday) link
dipped below 140 briefly :)
― mark s, Monday, 22 April 2024 14:40 (yesterday) link
that's https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-21/tesla-cuts-china-us-prices-after-sales-slow-inventories-rise
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 22 April 2024 15:03 (yesterday) link
deliveries down (by 20%? time) to cut the workforce (also by 20%)!
*invoices for $56b*
― mark s, Monday, 22 April 2024 15:15 (yesterday) link
*some of that's for editing my own posts*
― mark s, Monday, 22 April 2024 15:16 (yesterday) link
we shuold see if we can sell ilx to elon for $44b
― 龜, Monday, 22 April 2024 15:27 (yesterday) link
more like $44burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Monday, 22 April 2024 15:37 (yesterday) link
$77B
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Monday, 22 April 2024 16:15 (yesterday) link
Is Tesla inflating odometer to show more range, ding lessors with over miles and duck repairs under warranty? As I return my leased Model Y I noticed the odometer is off by 20% vs my Lexus RZ. Turns out other Tesla owners have a similar concern. Is Musk gaming the Tesla odometer? https://t.co/jM8Pmf6U1D pic.twitter.com/h4BB0iiar6— Facts Chaser 🌎 🤦🏻♂️ (@Factschaser) April 22, 2024
― 龜, Monday, 22 April 2024 23:58 (yesterday) link
thats really messed up
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 00:00 (twenty-one hours ago) link
if true at those inflation rates that’s funny for simply being so obviously catchable. i mean car nerds can be pretty merciless with their personal data capture imo. in fact one reason i def doubt these q’s is that it woulda been caught long ago?
― schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 03:40 (eighteen hours ago) link
could be new
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 03:41 (eighteen hours ago) link
the stupidest possible explanation is that its tracking kilometers and calling them miles
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 03:43 (eighteen hours ago) link
hmm. that wld be dumb. remember that mars probe that crashed because its measures calcs had inconsistent imperial/metrics standards? the possibility of a km/mi problem at tesla is somehow proof that elmo should def keep his sights aiming for his personal mars mission or whatever.
― schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 03:49 (seventeen hours ago) link
tesla earnings call today; excited for new lies
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 04:56 (sixteen hours ago) link
elo "x" musg currently having a public spat with the Australian Government re defending Twitter's right to circulate video of a stabbing in a church
there will be no winners here, the govt will accuse him of being a lousy corporate citizen, he will get a little elon hard-on about it and cry 'censorship' & 'freedom' - perhaps statistically insignificant number of bozos might decide they want him to be next President of the USA
but the main effect will be to render the Tesla brand even more fucking toxic
― Kraal Disorientation Chamber (emsworth), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 05:25 (sixteen hours ago) link
oh lol I just saw that tweet about Australian sales figures quoted above, maybe he was just looking to act out and this gave him an opportunity
― Kraal Disorientation Chamber (emsworth), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 05:26 (sixteen hours ago) link
One of the EV YouTube channels I follow posted their "we lost Cronkite" video on their dismal cybertruck experience. Yeah, sure, a software update will suddenly give your CT locking differentials.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 05:30 (sixteen hours ago) link
maybe teslas are measuring every bump in the roadlike the freshmen physics troll of measuring the land-sea boundary
― adam t. (abanana), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 10:45 (ten hours ago) link
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-23/tesla-stock-in-no-man-s-land-after-43-rout-ahead-of-earnings: "The company’s shares are weathering the longest rout since late 2022, tumbling nearly 19% over the past seven days" (posted a couple of hours before the stock market opens; sub needed for further gems)
― mark s, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 12:07 (nine hours ago) link
here you go https://archive.ph/V1Kcc
― 龜, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 12:08 (nine hours ago) link
👍🏽😇
― mark s, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 12:28 (nine hours ago) link
meanwhile enjoy it while it's pure
https://i.imgur.com/QxQlnAC.png
― mark s, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 13:44 (seven hours ago) link
she got all made up for this, sad
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:izxpomdyri45gzhppiiyattq/bafkreier4eicstowsic7mv2rjndsoo2mkosv2klwuwpybnhiuyqeq5gquy@jpeg
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 16:35 (five hours ago) link
I'm going to guess Taylor's people didn't return his call
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 16:44 (four hours ago) link
I checked and she's still with ornaldo bloomps and probably not having surrogate children with Elon but who can tell
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 18:08 (three hours ago) link