Elon Musk

i think there's the major technical hurdle of building the giant vacuum tube

― the late great, Tuesday, August 13, 2013 1:57 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it doesn't involve a giant vacuum tube, tho, is the thing

I thought we all switched to transistors

no? i thought that's how they got around the air resistance.

it doesn't need to be airtight though. something to do with fans & pumps

I mean, outside of scientific studies, existing forms of similar transport,
― carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, August 13, 2013 7:19 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

plz elaborate

see: Simpsons s04e12 and Futurama opening titles

yeah, it's a low pressure tube, not a no pressure tube.

I don't think the majority of our skepticism is in the particular technology, only that this particular technology might have implementation issues, having not been used in this type of situation before, and there are existing high speed trains we can study for the rest -- passenger usage, patterns of usage, etc.

New technologies need to go into effect and their costs may vary, but the costs of implementing for the first time are fairly predictable based on past ramp-up and production of technologies? If that makes any sense.

still some pressure in elon musk's tube

so basically take the costs of a monorail, the costs of a vacuum system to keep it at low pressure, and the fudge factor of it being something new

still some pressure in elon musk's tube

it has to be kept up artificially though from what I hear

I don't think the majority of our skepticism is in the particular technology
― carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, August 13, 2013 7:52 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well ok then

so is this supposed to replace driving or flying or both? because even if the cost is somewhat lower than flying it seems like the capacity would not be nearly enough to make any sense at all? like, a detachable quad chairlift moves like 2400 ppl/hr.

maybe la-sf needs a subsonic detachable quad.

"The total trip time is approximately half an hour, with capsules departing as often as every 30 seconds from each terminal and carrying 28 people each. This gives a total of 7.4 million people each way that can be transported each year on Hyperloop. ... total of about $20 USD (in current year dollars) plus operating costs per one-way ticket on the passenger Hyperloop."

so is this supposed to replace driving or flying or both? because even if the cost is somewhat lower than flying it seems like the capacity would not be nearly enough to make any sense at all? like, a detachable quad chairlift moves like 2400 ppl/hr.

maybe la-sf needs a subsonic detachable quad.

― you're better off in a supersonic jet (Hunt3r), Tuesday, August 13, 2013 4:13 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wait what

Will these things have bathrooms?

yeah, but don't flush

the whole experience is like being flushed amirite

I assume it would primarily replace flying plus some driving and rail. According to my quick googling, 7 mil per year is way more people than make the flight every year.

if he could actually make a system that would take people between SF & LA in a half hour for only $20, and he's not going to spend all of his energy on that then he's a dick.

yeah, i think the flight figure is ~6.x mil. still, that sounds very inflated. it assumes 840 ppl/hour- 24 hours a day. no downtime? no maintenance time? i have no idea how many ppl drive it/day, and part of the traffic will transfer from there. if it's truly like $50/30 minutes, many more people will start to do it.

but i think it's a cool concept, hope it works someday.

i mean, the hyperloop capacity sounds inflated.

you could always build a second parallel tube amirite

yeah but I think the total flight numbers are only like 1.x million

there are probably at least a million people each day commuting into LA and SF combined right? an affordable half hour hyperloop trip between the two (not to mention connectors to other less expensive cities) would lead to a lot more commuters.

is there space for segways in it?

driving segways into the hyperloop with my google glasses

I think it's very healthy to be skeptical of all new technologies. The idea is not to shot down anything new for the sake of it, but to remain cautious of the implications and in this specific case, the feasibility of the new technology.

there are probably at least a million people each day commuting into LA and SF combined right? an affordable half hour hyperloop trip between the two (not to mention connectors to other less expensive cities) would lead to a lot more commuters.

― wk, Tuesday, August 13, 2013 5:05 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You mean people actually living in one and working in the other on a daily basis? I doubt it, only because both are such expensive cities, so the main reason to choose living in one and working in the other would be taste. The commuters from the valley etc aren't going to pack up and move to SF just because they can tube to work.

well it opens up the possibility. the valley is probably way cheaper than anywhere in the bay area, so if somebody there gets a job in San Jose and they can get there in almost the same amount of time it takes to drive downtown, then why not?

HOOS next aka won't get steened again (Hurting 2)
Posted: August 13, 2013, 7:17:15 PM
This sounds neat. Anyone speculating as to whether it will work or not right now is completely full of shit -- you have nothing to base your opinion on yet.

where as yr opinion is based on the fact that it sounds neat lol

lasertrain sounds neater, so basically musk can gobble these

i'm not speculating as to whether it will actually work

there's way neater completely untested ideas out there

having a press conference to present a scifi idea is what people are making fun of

he even pretends to know how much it will cost

lol

i blame snowden

Guys, I have this awesome idea and am pretty sure I can put one in every major airport for like $40-50 tops.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01729/star_1729224c.jpg

i already made that joek

HYPERCUBE

funny how billionaires always end up in hubris

i've drawn a big elastic band that will be able to shoot people across country at Mach 4 let's do this

there's way neater completely untested ideas out there

― lag∞n, Tuesday, August 13, 2013 11:02 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

like what

who the hell is this Elon Musk guy to estimate the cost of an engineering project

he's no ilxor that's for sure

well i haven't FP'd him yet so

oooh i bet he could come up with a better system than fp

like it would only take like 2, 3 tops to ban a fucker

say what you want about this guy, at least he made the hyperloops run on time