Dinosaur Jr.: Brilliant or crap?

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I'm so glad that music like this isn't the default style on college radio stations anymore.

Dan I., Saturday, 17 August 2013 01:39 (ten years ago) link

what is it now, the national

j., Saturday, 17 August 2013 05:32 (ten years ago) link

Recent posts fuckng pissing me off. You're Living All Over Me 4eva.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 17 August 2013 05:37 (ten years ago) link

otm.

What is the new/old live album mentioned by tyler?

The O RLY of Everything (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 17 August 2013 06:06 (ten years ago) link

Like, you might as well just not like Blue Oyster Cult or like, breasts or something. Seriously wtf?

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 17 August 2013 07:43 (ten years ago) link

this is the 1987 live recording released last november: http://www.mergerecords.com/store/store_detail.php?catalog_id=894

some dude, Saturday, 17 August 2013 10:44 (ten years ago) link

I tried really hard with this band, but not enough sixties in the music for my taste. Indie taste back then was inf. by massive 70s sounds. Guitar rock not my thing.

― Joey Bag of Noses (I M Losted), Saturday, August 17, 2013 12:03 AM (16 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm so glad that music like this isn't the default style on college radio stations anymore.

― Dan I., Saturday, August 17, 2013 2:39 AM (14 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol enjoy your shitty current "indie"

Man, I was really drunk last night.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 17 August 2013 16:08 (ten years ago) link

This was OTM though:

You're Living All Over Me 4eva.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 17 August 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link

Man, I was really drunk last night.

hahaha i assumed you must be

i'm looking forward to the Dino Jr. tracks poll. i really feel like there are some great unheralded pockets of their catalog outside of the canonical stuff -- Hand It Over is so great.

some dude, Saturday, 17 August 2013 16:28 (ten years ago) link

I saw this chillin in someone's CD collection the other day and I got so nostalgic... I totally forgot it ever existed.
http://ring.cdandlp.com/aggp_store/photo_grande/114963480.jpg

sup (billstevejim), Saturday, 17 August 2013 16:34 (ten years ago) link

Man this used book store by me was having a sidewalk sale with just boxes of random ass cds on sale for a buck or less. It was just utter crap - probably more Windows 95 era game discs in the boxes than music discs and about 100 copies of each of those BMG sampler discs. Anyway, just as I was about to walk away, I spotted that one above and the JayLouMurph thing for 50 cents each. Made my week.

JACK SQUAT about these Charlie Nobodies (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 17 August 2013 17:25 (ten years ago) link

I believe "the national" also belong to the category of white men playing guitars

Dan I., Sunday, 18 August 2013 02:16 (ten years ago) link

men, not slacker gods

j., Sunday, 18 August 2013 02:19 (ten years ago) link

and i'm being generous with 'men'

j., Sunday, 18 August 2013 02:19 (ten years ago) link

strong diss

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 18 August 2013 02:20 (ten years ago) link

and i'm trying to talk shit about both bands not hype up "the national" haha.

Dan I., Sunday, 18 August 2013 02:20 (ten years ago) link

The only reason I mention it is that I heard Dinosaur Jr. on a college radio station the other day and it was jarring to realize that like 7 years ago 90% of the music on the same station was white-guys-playing-guitars music, and now that stuff seems to finally be out of style.

Dan I., Sunday, 18 August 2013 02:23 (ten years ago) link

no seriously what do they play now, when i walk past the catholic school party houses they're listening to kendrick lamar

j., Sunday, 18 August 2013 02:26 (ten years ago) link

is there a name for that genre that's just all synthesizers and the vocals have way way too much reverb?

Dan I., Sunday, 18 August 2013 02:32 (ten years ago) link

oh you mean m83

j., Sunday, 18 August 2013 02:34 (ten years ago) link

It's really wrong to aim this stuff at Dinosaur Jr., but that insufferable punk and classic rock fan "authenticity"/"this is REAL music" attitude was also present in 90s indie, and I was happy to realize that it apparently doesn't hold sway anymore.

Dan I., Sunday, 18 August 2013 02:42 (ten years ago) link

oh shit i somehow just realized I'm talking about rockism haha

Dan I., Sunday, 18 August 2013 02:43 (ten years ago) link

There is a massive part of Arcade Fire/Sigur Ros/Radiohead fandom that is all about the ''authenticity/this is REAL music'' attitude.

It's probably just easier to dismiss today.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 18 August 2013 02:52 (ten years ago) link

it seems i have finally discovered the vortex of RONG

no one should be offended by the lyrics in this song (stevie), Sunday, 18 August 2013 09:39 (ten years ago) link

it is this thread revive

no one should be offended by the lyrics in this song (stevie), Sunday, 18 August 2013 09:39 (ten years ago) link

Hand It Over is so great.

a million times, yes. messy, heartbroken, dark and dippy in places, but so great.

not enough sixties in the music for my taste.

the sixties were a decade of shocking diversity and great giant leaps and accelerated evolution in a myriad of musical forms. i guess what you're saying is dinosaur don't adequately echo miles davis' shift from acoustic to electric music, right?

no one should be offended by the lyrics in this song (stevie), Sunday, 18 August 2013 09:41 (ten years ago) link

That guy out of The National has a beard

PaulTMA, Sunday, 18 August 2013 11:06 (ten years ago) link

lets face it he means beatles pop

xp

"You got your incense and peppermints in my cinnamon girl!"
"You got your cinnamon girl in my strawberry alarm clock!"

how's life, Sunday, 18 August 2013 19:05 (ten years ago) link

Today's musicians really don't saying about food very much, do they?

how's life, Sunday, 18 August 2013 19:06 (ten years ago) link

I mean, even Dinosaur He. Was singing about raisans and turnips. Whats anybody bringing to the table nowadays?

how's life, Sunday, 18 August 2013 19:10 (ten years ago) link

it's been forever since i heard a good milkshake song

j., Sunday, 18 August 2013 19:12 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

Bug contains so many great jams, love the record.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 3 November 2014 17:28 (nine years ago) link

Maybe it's my age but I genuinely feel that they never surpassed 'You're living All Over Me" and believe me, I have purchased much DiJr since - Sebadoh, solo stuff etc.

The context of those guitar solos were truly new to my ears back then. Now they're like, "Here we go again, squall...squiggle, squeak ...." And Mascis' voice was better then? Oh and the tunes. Lyrics, i'm not too fussed.

Perhaps I should try again?

Is the remastered version of YLAOM any good?

Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 12:34 (nine years ago) link

It was definitely fresher back then in all those categories. Though I still enjoy the recent stuff too! Some really amazing songs on the first comeback album notably.

Evan, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 14:34 (nine years ago) link

I love pretty much all their albums, but YLAOM is by a huge degree their best

For me Bug is pretty close, too.

Evan, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 14:58 (nine years ago) link

Uh, at the risk of ruining the lovefest for their 80s stuff, I enjoy their reunion records more.

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 14:59 (nine years ago) link

I'll get even weirder and say that I think his most recent solo album on Sub Pop ("Tied to a Star") is one of my favorite things he's done!

Soft spot for Where You Been, just because of the timing of its release.

Your Ribs are My Ladder, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 15:26 (nine years ago) link

I love both of the solo records.

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 15:34 (nine years ago) link

YLAOM is definitely the best, bug is a close second. i can't really listen to the solo mascis "dinosaur jr" stuff anymore even though i dig recent solo mascis. the reunion stuff is perennially on my list of stuff to listen to but i never get around to it

marcos, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 15:36 (nine years ago) link

as far as the sebadoh stuff goes i think the freed weed is all i need. winners & losers is also pretty good. whenever i think of the type of dope barlow smoked nonstop during the freed weed i imagine it is the driest brownest seeds & stems schwag ever, right? there ain't no fuckin way barlow as smoking anything kind.

marcos, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 15:38 (nine years ago) link

Tied To A Star is excellent!

I interviewed J when the first three LPs got reissued, and he said, re: Bug: “I interviewed Ozzy Osbourne once, and he said he hated Sabotage, that it just reminded him of Sabbath recording with lawyers sat in the studio. I guess I feel the same way about Bug.” I love Post and Freak Scene, obvs, but its the lesser album of that early trilogy to me.

Stevie, do you know if Mascis is touring w/ a band here in January? Must admit, not so much into J as acoustic minstrel

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 15:49 (nine years ago) link

Press release doesn't state clearly, though I must say I've seen J play solo before, and it was pretty remarkable.

Thanks, couldn't see any info on his website either - but you're selling me on it now (he's playing a nice venue in Glasgow)

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 16:27 (nine years ago) link

I saw him play the Underworld circa the Fog album, on his lonesome, and he wasn't really all that unplugged - strums acoustic while singing, but then cranks a pedal and fires up for the solos. That might not be your cup of tea, but it certainly was mine!


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