Bob Dylan: The Bootleg Series

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still pretty irritated that the isle of wight show is only available on the pricey deluxe version. i guess it'll be "out there" though. i love that show -- a little wobbly at times, but totally unique versions. also pretty interesting that there's that "minstrel boy" reportedly from the basement tapes sessions, which hasn't appeared on any of the many bootlegs of that material. wonder if there's even more basement tapes that haven't gotten out there?

tylerw, Monday, 19 August 2013 16:31 (ten years ago) link

not even included in the vinyl box which is sooooo annoying

usic for 18 magicians (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 August 2013 20:24 (ten years ago) link

i bet it'll be some kinda record store day release

tylerw, Monday, 19 August 2013 20:28 (ten years ago) link

Ha oh good at least it will completely infuriating to buy then as well as overpriced

usic for 18 magicians (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 13:59 (ten years ago) link

Not to worry, it will be in Fopp for £20 within 6 months..

Mark G, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 14:07 (ten years ago) link

Nice mini-doc on Amazon--a freebie, and you don't even have to sign in, streaming 'til Aug. 26. Think all the excerpts are from the xpost sampler still streaming on NPR. Good visuals, although Bob Johnston's lost some more teeth. Also see "What is this shit?" and session lists incl "Sitting on the Dock of the Bay" and others I haven't heard (some are bolded-in w extra pen; are these the only ones still around/actually recorded?) Best stuff from Al Kooper, who got to remix at least a couple of tracks from New Morning, and says all the NM songs were from the unfinished Broadway collaboration w Archibald MacLeish. Dunno about that; they always seemed pretty personal, or at least self-referential. but could be all of the above---anyway http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/ref=pe_288950_32092510_pe_button/?docId=1001297451&ie=UTF8

dow, Friday, 23 August 2013 22:55 (ten years ago) link

his voice sounds so good on these tracks. def my favorite dylan era.

ryan, Friday, 23 August 2013 23:07 (ten years ago) link

Was just thinking the same thing. It's him a bit past the "singerly" voice of Nashville Skyline.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 23 August 2013 23:40 (ten years ago) link

snagged a pre-release copy of this through #secrete means and it is fucking great. partly biased because this era is my favorite Dylan era, but there's a ton of good stuff on here. reaaaaaaaaally wish the isle of wight wasn't deluxe only.

thot police (fadanuf4erybody), Saturday, 24 August 2013 02:27 (ten years ago) link

the unreleased songs are an amazing lost album from that era. neil young needs to step his archives up

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 24 August 2013 02:42 (ten years ago) link

fuck a sony for releasing this in a 2-CD edition and a 4-CD edition, the latter only purchase-able at an enormously inflated cost and with all kinds of pointless bells and whistles.

in response I'll just download the 4-CD edition and spend my cash elsewhere.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 24 August 2013 04:00 (ten years ago) link

(will be the first bootleg series volume I haven't bought btw)

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 24 August 2013 04:00 (ten years ago) link

Cheaper..
(£63 or so)

http://www.popmarket.com/?cid=nl%3A721255174&;utm_medium=email&utm_source=generator-popmarket&utm_campaign=email-generator-popmarket-20130823-nl721255174&utm_content=nllink-2afd3e8b-PopMarket.com%20IMAGE

Mark G, Monday, 26 August 2013 20:06 (ten years ago) link

I just bought the 2-CD version. Would have happily paid *twice* as much for the 4-disc version - but five times as much? no ta.

Enjoying this immensely, though.......

Duke, Monday, 26 August 2013 20:09 (ten years ago) link

This might not be the right thread to include this, but the announcement below promises even more "unreleased" material. Albeit in a rather unnecessary 41-disc box.... Interesting that 14 albums have been remastered - which ones would those be (Hard Rain, for example??)

Bob Dylan: The Complete Album Collection

Coming Fall 2013. Includes:

- All 41 official albums, including 14 newly remastered titles.
- Side Tracks - 2 CD compilation of previously released songs not included on the original albums
- All the original artwork reproduced
- Hardcover booklet with extensive new liner notes and rare photos

Duke, Monday, 26 August 2013 20:19 (ten years ago) link

my guess is that the side tracks thing will be made up of that "copyright collection" that came out last year in a ridiculously tiny edition?

tylerw, Monday, 26 August 2013 20:24 (ten years ago) link

this thing
http://i.imgur.com/unQ6s.jpg

tylerw, Monday, 26 August 2013 20:24 (ten years ago) link

What was on that, tyler? (I must confess I'm terrible at keeping up with these things).

I'm interested in the fact that more albums have been remastered. I'm sure these remastered albums will be made available individually - I could certainly replace a couple of my ancient vinyl LPs.

Duke, Monday, 26 August 2013 20:28 (ten years ago) link

iirc it was all stuff from 62-64 -- some outtakes, some live things, some home recordings, all of it bootlegged previously.

tylerw, Monday, 26 August 2013 20:31 (ten years ago) link

& yeah, i'd like remastered versions of some of these things, especially hard rain (which has never been remastered, right?). feel like that could use an upgrade, kind of a weird sounding CD.

tylerw, Monday, 26 August 2013 20:32 (ten years ago) link

yes, I've just read a few articles about that "Copyright Extension" release. If I'd known about it, I'd have checked my local record shops: I live in Germany!

Agree, Hard Rain comes to mind immediately when I think about Dylan albums in need of a remaster

Duke, Monday, 26 August 2013 20:35 (ten years ago) link

The next Copyright Extension volume is gonna have some meat on its bones.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 26 August 2013 20:36 (ten years ago) link

ha, yeah is the idea they'll just keep on doing those things? crazy.
another self portrait just showed up in my mailbox! psyyyyyched.

tylerw, Monday, 26 August 2013 20:40 (ten years ago) link

They have to or bootleggers can profit. Think about what we should see in the next few years. Complete basement tapes, anyone?

EZ Snappin, Monday, 26 August 2013 20:45 (ten years ago) link

False-Starts and On-Mic Farts: The Bootleg Series Volume 27

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Monday, 26 August 2013 21:14 (ten years ago) link

http://www.bobdylan.com/sites/bdylan/files/imagecache/470xscale/luna_azul.jpg
great single sleeve

tylerw, Monday, 26 August 2013 21:43 (ten years ago) link

that bob dylan logo rules want that on a shirt

everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 26 August 2013 21:44 (ten years ago) link

oh man this "house carpenter" is amazing.

tylerw, Monday, 26 August 2013 22:23 (ten years ago) link

Pretty Saro is streaming on Spotify.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 26 August 2013 22:36 (ten years ago) link

all of this stuff that's just dylan, bromberg and kooper is deeply killer.

tylerw, Monday, 26 August 2013 22:37 (ten years ago) link

not sure if it would've worked all that well in the context of the album, but this horn-overdub version of New Morning is a delight. Seems like it could've been an AM radio hit this way. hilarious that Al Kooper did all of this orchestration work (see the version of "Sign on the window" here too) and then Dylan was like "nahhhh."

tylerw, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 15:10 (ten years ago) link

The CD deluxe set sold out, but the 3-LP/2-CD Box set is still available here, £45

http://www.popmarket.com/

Mark G, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 15:29 (ten years ago) link

Oh man, Pretty Saro is one of my favorite old folk songs, cool that he did a version

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link

love "this evening so soon"

what's the relationship between "in search of little sadie" and johnny cash's "cocaine blues" - they both use some of the same lyrics, assuming obv it's stuff floating around in the folk tradition but is there one that was "first"?

everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 17:26 (ten years ago) link

iirc "cocaine blues" is a country rework of "little sadie"... I think Dylan is borrowing his version from Clarence AShley?

tylerw, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 17:30 (ten years ago) link

Clarence Ashley's "little sadie" would've been recorded sometime in the 30s, I think.

tylerw, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 17:31 (ten years ago) link

i'm sure they both got it from there

everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 17:36 (ten years ago) link

probs!
man, this whole thing is pretty great. it is weird to think if Dylan had just decided that this was what he wanted to do for the rest of his career. he'd basically be michael hurley or something.
love dylan's fumble fingered piano on some of these tracks.

tylerw, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 17:42 (ten years ago) link

Hmm so I need to get this, yes?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 19:23 (ten years ago) link

Two disc set is on Spotify now.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 22:59 (ten years ago) link

got this; interested in the insert for the "complete album collection", but wondering if the 14 newly remastered ones are the only remasters, or if they include e.g. the Blonde on Blonde remaster from a few years back

Euler, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 23:36 (ten years ago) link

also hoping that this is my way into New Morning, which has evaded me all these years

Euler, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 23:37 (ten years ago) link

yeah, in that xp mini-doc Kooper quotes Dylan as saying, "I'm gonna erase most of this", and he doesn't seem indignant, but does seem excited to find that the full horn tracks do still exist, and that he got to work on the remasters. I like 'em as alt takes, but do think they might've oversold the happiness of "New Morning"("Automobile comin' into style", which also implies the way new mornings get old, "planned obsolescence", as everybody's econ teacher used to say, but he's not being ironic, just a passing nod to such, while still happy). And horns could've def been too much company for the isolation of "Sign On The Window." The lone french horn on the corner seems right. And Kooper also loves the way Dyl sings "slee-ee-eet".

dow, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 02:08 (ten years ago) link

Two disc set is on Spotify now.
Right now I'm just seeing 15 tracks; think they're the same as the "Highlights" thing NPR was streaming.

dow, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 02:49 (ten years ago) link

Could be right.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 03:16 (ten years ago) link

"slee-ee-eet"

always loved the phlegmy inflection of this too.

ryan, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 04:41 (ten years ago) link

horns!

j., Wednesday, 28 August 2013 16:18 (ten years ago) link

this album is awesomely MINOR

I'm gonna have to give New Morning another try after this, because the mellow jams on this are totally beguiling. I even liked "If Dogs Run Free"!

Euler, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 16:22 (ten years ago) link

dogs run free on another self portrait is wild -- it's actually a song!

tylerw, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 16:24 (ten years ago) link


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