they call me the believer
― markers, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:48 (ten years ago) link
ancient sea on the toss of the world
― markers, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:49 (ten years ago) link
lol i hope song meanings is right:
Hulk Hogan flashing all across the world
― markers, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:50 (ten years ago) link
who does music recommendations the best? apparently facebook and google are launching their own APIs for this. who do they need to topple? pandora? echonest? last.fm?
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:51 (ten years ago) link
here you go: http://bit.ly/2CilC7
― markers, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:52 (ten years ago) link
Rdio uses Echonest so is actually pretty great. I think I'm going to switch and give them my money instead of Spotify.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:53 (ten years ago) link
I dunno crut! Since they don't have any Fatima Mansions or Microdisney albums, I assumed there'd be no Pigmeat or Moms Mabley.
― Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:04 (ten years ago) link
afaik Pigmeat Markham's recorded comedy is a lot more historically significant than Microdisney
― Coming Out Of Elton John's Mouth (crüt), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:13 (ten years ago) link
Two Coyle and Sharpe albums!
― YOU FOOLS PAY OVER $2.50 for a comic book (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 04:48 (ten years ago) link
i wish spotify would team up with datpiff or whoever to include rap mixtapes
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:20 (ten years ago) link
probably sample clearance issues with that
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 16:26 (ten years ago) link
Recommendations are hard. But if your idea of a recommendation is "You've been listening to a lot of song by artist lately. Play now?", where song is a song I listened to once, 4 months ago, then your problem is not that recommendations are hard, it's that you are acting in bad faith, filling in boxes on a feature checklist instead of caring about music or people or freedom. Ditto "Owner of a Lonely Heart was huge when you were a teenager. Play now?" and "You listened to Charlotte Church. Check out Olivia Newton-John."
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 22 August 2013 04:25 (ten years ago) link
Presumably they're keeping track of how successful the different templates are, maybe it will switch up after a few months' worth of data. With this stuff though I always assume that I (and other big music fans) are looking for a different kind of recommendation engine to 95% of users.
― Francois Toofo (seandalai), Thursday, 22 August 2013 12:06 (ten years ago) link
so maybe there needs to be one kind of recommendation engine for the casual punter and another kind for the hardcore music fan?
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 22 August 2013 13:08 (ten years ago) link
If it's worth their while - how many hardcore music fans are there? how influential are they?
― Francois Toofo (seandalai), Thursday, 22 August 2013 13:28 (ten years ago) link
- fewer than you think- less than you think
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 22 August 2013 13:30 (ten years ago) link
that said, they are the first adopters of pretty much any new service so it needs to work well for them too or the service is going to get bad word-of-mouth
so i guess in that sense they're influential but if you're talking about the influence of hardcore music fans on what, say, a record label plans on investing in over the next year it's close to zero
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 22 August 2013 13:31 (ten years ago) link
I keep listening to these best of the year lists, so it's all "We noticed you listened to Marvin Gaye and After the Fire recently, how about some Earth Wind and Fire?"
― pplains, Thursday, 22 August 2013 14:46 (ten years ago) link
It'd be great if it was just stringing words together like ELIZA or Dr. Sbaitso. I NOTICED YOU LISTENING TO SIMPLY REDD AND KRISS KROSS, HOW ABOUT SOME RED KROSS?
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 22 August 2013 14:51 (ten years ago) link
They got me this morning wtih a Meredith Monk recommendation for people who listen to Matthew Shipp, because I said, oh, let's see what Meredith Monk is up to. (Though it's probably too early in the morning for MM, for me.)
― _Rudipherous_, Thursday, 22 August 2013 15:02 (ten years ago) link
(And I see they don't exactly have a lot. Some new remixes. I think I will pass on Meredith Monk remixes.)
― _Rudipherous_, Thursday, 22 August 2013 15:03 (ten years ago) link
"You've been listening to a lot of song by artist lately. Play now?"
yeah those are super dumb. also I used Spotify a lot around Christmastime to play Xmas music for my daughter (which she got way too into and wanted to hear over and over of course, until finally sometime around April she moved on to something else) and now I'm constantly getting hit with "You haven't listened to 'You're a Mean One Mr. Grinch' in a while" and I'm like YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I HAVEN'T GET OFF MY SCREEN.
― dmr, Thursday, 22 August 2013 15:12 (ten years ago) link
God, you should see our netflix queue.
― pplains, Thursday, 22 August 2013 15:14 (ten years ago) link
Still can't believe they haven't worked out how to do playlist durations. motherfuckers.
― ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Friday, 23 August 2013 01:01 (ten years ago) link
Last.fm's recommendations/radio-generator stuff seems to work really well. They should just steal that.
― Kissin' Cloacas (Viceroy), Friday, 23 August 2013 01:51 (ten years ago) link
but then again they have over 10 years of data to work with.
― Kissin' Cloacas (Viceroy), Friday, 23 August 2013 01:52 (ten years ago) link
Spotify probably have a comparable amount of data though.
― oaiwfeowinf (seandalai), Friday, 23 August 2013 01:56 (ten years ago) link
If you like Broadcast try Suicide.
― Fizzles, Friday, 23 August 2013 05:44 (ten years ago) link
An even meaner record store clerk
― touch. zing touch. you've almost convinced me I'm real (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 23 August 2013 06:00 (ten years ago) link
The inaccuracy is bad, but it's the incredible smallness that really irks me. You've got 20 million tracks to play with, and the best you're even going to try to do is ask me if I want to hear something I've already heard again? An individual song? Not even an informative histogram of my listening habits over time? You do have computers there, don't you?
The record-store-clerk experience we're trying to make possible, I would think, is the one where no matter what you ask them about, they have a secret room in back that's full of stuff like that. And repeat.
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 23 August 2013 11:49 (ten years ago) link
If they just had the recommendations and not the reminders, I think I'd like it a lot better. Most of my recs actually make sense, except for all the cases where Spotify tells me to check out some artist it knows I've already listened to.
― oaiwfeowinf (seandalai), Friday, 23 August 2013 12:51 (ten years ago) link
A new low: "Abracadabra (Round N' Round) [Radio Edit] was huge when you were a teenager. Play now?" And the linked song is a horrific 2012 club remake erroneously listed as by the Steve Miller Band.
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 23 August 2013 20:07 (ten years ago) link
Probably been asked before, but do many of the "rolling" 2013 threads have their own playlists? I am on the bobbins one and find it useful.
― Chantal Anchorman (admrl), Friday, 23 August 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link
that's a good one. one for reminiscing about around the virtual fire of 2033 with frenz. is there a nostalgia of disgust/contempt? must be. xp
― Fizzles, Friday, 23 August 2013 20:11 (ten years ago) link
I'm getting annoying by all these "this song was huge when you were a teenager" things. That song came out when I was 30! Where are you getting your data from, Spotify?
― President Keyes, Sunday, 25 August 2013 01:45 (ten years ago) link
the only one I like is "you recently listened to [for example] The Joe Perry Project. Want to play it again now?" because when that is in fact what you wanna do it's immensely satisfying. you're God damn right I wanna play that thing, enjoyed listening to it and it'll hit the spot right now, good lookin out Spotify
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 25 August 2013 02:14 (ten years ago) link
Since you listened to Neil Young, you might be interested in this new release by Bob Dylan.
Spotify is just straight trollin' me now.
― Kissin' Cloacas (Viceroy), Thursday, 29 August 2013 00:25 (ten years ago) link
if you go through intense genre phases then spotify recommendations are for the most part on point. for instance i've pretty much only been listening to disco and '80s r&b and i got recommended a taste of honey
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 August 2013 02:54 (ten years ago) link
― Kissin' Cloacas (Viceroy), Wednesday, August 28, 2013 7:25 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
what is wrong with this
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 29 August 2013 14:31 (ten years ago) link
Ha yeah I thought the same thing, seems like a pretty straightforward recommendation
Spotify just told me that Poolside have been listening to a lot of Nature Sounds Nature Music, I wonder if they're having trouble sleeping. It was a good recommendation. Overall I really like the discover thing.
― badg, Thursday, 29 August 2013 16:05 (ten years ago) link
Just got a rec for "Minnie Ripperton", presumably because I sometimes listen to Minnie Riperton.
― Henry Charles Hovell-Thurlow-Cumming-Bruce Hovell-Thurlow-Cumming-Br (seandalai), Thursday, 29 August 2013 16:44 (ten years ago) link
You listened to Shuggie Otis this week. Want to try The Durutti Column?
― crüt, Thursday, 29 August 2013 16:46 (ten years ago) link
uninspired information, spotify
― touch. zing touch. you've almost convinced me I'm real (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 29 August 2013 18:00 (ten years ago) link
xp primarily the "new release" part.
― PRISON WARDEN CONSCIOUSNESS (4th Dimension) (Viceroy), Friday, 30 August 2013 05:04 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/McF5V6k.png
Some amusing choices in there http://open.spotify.com/user/record_club_umc
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 31 August 2013 00:20 (ten years ago) link
spotify, like everyone else, insists i should listen to swans
― Treeship, Saturday, 31 August 2013 00:22 (ten years ago) link
IT'S A TRAP
(j/k you should listen to Swans)
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 31 August 2013 00:33 (ten years ago) link
limp bizkit weezer damian marley now that's music
― YOU FOOLS PAY OVER $2.50 for a comic book (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 31 August 2013 05:09 (ten years ago) link
You listened to They Might Be Giants. Like to hear the new album?
(1998's Severe Tire Damage)
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 31 August 2013 06:59 (ten years ago) link