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Put it this way: There's a 12" single of Tom Verlaine, and on the b-side is a version of "Marquee Moon" performed live in 1987.

Basically, if the band can play, the song plays them.

Mark G, Friday, 30 August 2013 15:01 (ten years ago) link

I decided the allure of the spectacle vs. my general everyday apathy about Television wasn't enough to spend $30.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 30 August 2013 15:25 (ten years ago) link

Well, if you don't get the album..

Then again, I never got "Horses", but I have the 2CD version with a live performance, and saw the "Rockpalast" performance, and enjoyed both live renditions.

Mark G, Friday, 30 August 2013 15:28 (ten years ago) link

if i were anywhere on the east coast, i'd go see that show... seems weird that they'll do "marquee moon" right in the middle of the set after decades of it being the closer.

tylerw, Friday, 30 August 2013 15:52 (ten years ago) link

Fuck I wanna goooooo

i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Friday, 30 August 2013 16:01 (ten years ago) link

no idea, but i'd be a little surprised if they didn't schedule a few more US dates?

tylerw, Friday, 30 August 2013 16:03 (ten years ago) link

i just bought my ticket.

crüt, Friday, 30 August 2013 16:05 (ten years ago) link

Xpost that's what I'm banking on... Time to go peruse the mm list...

i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Friday, 30 August 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link

Tyler, think you maybe even let me know this, but Chris Forsyth & The Solar Motel Band are playing a set "as" Television sometime soon in Philly. That band is getting really good live (well, they already are pretty great, but could be really achieving launch in the next couple of months ...). I bet they are gonna kill those Television songs, though seeing Verlaine in person can't really be replicated.

grandavis, Friday, 30 August 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link

yeah i saw that! i know chris is a television superfan, so i can only imagine he's going to do it right. i think he even has taken lessons from lloyd himself.

tylerw, Friday, 30 August 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link

I imagine they are gonna nail the sound at the very least, but both guitarists seem capable of getting some of the magic right as well. Would certainly go if I lived near Philly!

grandavis, Friday, 30 August 2013 16:17 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Television is playing Athens, GA on November 7 and doing all of Marquee Moon.

can't believe I missed this thread revive ... really glad I got tickets before they sold out

Brad C., Friday, 13 September 2013 18:03 (ten years ago) link

lol, start holding your breath!
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/revamped-television-have-a-new-album-in-the-can-20130920

tylerw, Friday, 20 September 2013 16:40 (ten years ago) link

"Marquee Moon" is something of an anti-song, 10 minutes of disciplined disorder, lacking melody and a chorus

"Lacking melody" totally OffTM.

Low down bad refrigerator (Dan Peterson), Friday, 20 September 2013 16:51 (ten years ago) link

yeahhh, pretty much all of that is wrong? not a lot of "disorder" in there that i can hear.

tylerw, Friday, 20 September 2013 16:53 (ten years ago) link

it is utterly through-composed except for the solos

i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Friday, 20 September 2013 17:00 (ten years ago) link

and i mean, the "chorus" is the "life in the hive" bit, right? it repeats three times, after each verse...

tylerw, Friday, 20 September 2013 17:03 (ten years ago) link

Meanwhile, 16 songs frontman Tom Verlaine and the band recorded in December 2007 await vocals and mixing, though a release date is still not scheduled.

OK so the situation has not changed since those Facebook posts from Jimmy Rip a year or two ago. Oh well. At least this article had a few comments from the engineer who recorded the sessions.

i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Friday, 20 September 2013 17:04 (ten years ago) link

haha, yeah.
btw y'all should check out this recent johnny jewel cover - https://soundcloud.com/solar-motel-band/03-little-johnny-jewel it is pretty awesome

tylerw, Friday, 20 September 2013 17:05 (ten years ago) link

i liked the detail that TV favors low powered amps in the studio.

i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Friday, 20 September 2013 17:06 (ten years ago) link

while i wait for this new television album, i'm going to drink bottle after bottle of fred smith's artisanal wine - http://www.cereghinosmith.com/

tylerw, Friday, 20 September 2013 17:47 (ten years ago) link

it is utterly through-composed except for the solos

Yeah, totally. I remember bringing one of their songs to my guitar teacher, who spent a few minutes on it before basically telling totally awful me, yeah, sorry, no way, this is completely, elaborately through-composed and would take us hours.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 20 September 2013 17:51 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYtj6FAdVBc

tylerw, Friday, 20 September 2013 17:52 (ten years ago) link

That kid with the green Mosrite or whatever is my new hero.

Marlo Poco (Phil D.), Friday, 20 September 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link

short Verlaine interviews a-poppin'!

http://www.beat.com.au/music/television
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/arts/review/creating-new-waves/story-fn9n8gph-1226684923004
http://www.fasterlouder.com.au/features/37044/We_interviewed_Televisions_Tom_Verlaine_it_didnt_go_so_well

There's even some valuable nuggets here and there. One particularly striking bit where he describes how he used to write in the early TV days. And, of course, lots of cussedness, bloody-minded evasion and sphinxery.

i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Friday, 27 September 2013 22:05 (ten years ago) link

lol at that last one...

tylerw, Friday, 27 September 2013 23:00 (ten years ago) link

Yeah he was pretty hard on that kid in his clamlike way

play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Friday, 27 September 2013 23:56 (ten years ago) link

That kid was a pretty shitty interviewer, tbh

THIZZ VAN LEER @_@ (lpz), Saturday, 28 September 2013 06:16 (ten years ago) link

He got a little out of Tom on his(the kid's) pet interests

curmudgeon, Saturday, 28 September 2013 16:37 (ten years ago) link

Wonder if Verlaine prefers Fearless or Witness

Master of Treacle, Saturday, 28 September 2013 18:39 (ten years ago) link

another one - a verlaine media blitz!
kind of cute that he actually says nice things about the teenage band doing marquee moon
http://themusic.com.au/interviews/all/2013/09/04/television-tom-verlaine/19031/
Recently he was surprised by a YouTube link sent to him by Television bass player Fred Smith. The footage featured a band of teenagers covering Television’s title track from the 1977 album Marquee Moon. “What’s incredible is that it’s the best version I’ve ever heard anybody play,” Verlaine continues. “The bass player loses it a bit but the two guitar players, for being that young, play it really good. The singer is a girl, which is really strange; I don’t know what to make of the girl’s voice. But I thought, ‘Geez, these two guitar guys really got this thing down’.”

tylerw, Monday, 30 September 2013 21:27 (ten years ago) link

There he mentions the piano thing again, him taking the right hand part and RL taking the left hand. That strikes me as a v revealing piece of process trivia. Has he talked abt that before this recent spate of articles?

play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Monday, 30 September 2013 23:29 (ten years ago) link

mm, would like that youtube link.

Mark G, Monday, 30 September 2013 23:44 (ten years ago) link

scroll up!

tylerw, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 01:30 (ten years ago) link

he has talked about that composition technique in regards to "venus" i think, just figuring out the interlocking guitar parts.

tylerw, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 01:31 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

did an ilxor say hi to me at the Athens show? (bl0unt??) if so, sorry dude, i was kinda freaked out b/c i hadn't been in athens in 3 years & i didn't recognize you. didn't realize till after i'd walked away that it might have been someone from on here.

Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Friday, 8 November 2013 06:54 (ten years ago) link

Excellent show, I even enjoyed the endless tuning .... "Psychotic Reaction" was not what I was expecting as an encore!

Brad C., Friday, 8 November 2013 13:30 (ten years ago) link

Awesome.

Trip Maker, Friday, 8 November 2013 14:52 (ten years ago) link

Wow to that encore.

Is blOunt still here on ilx?

curmudgeon, Friday, 8 November 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link

was playing the roof of the georgia theatre last week and was soooo bummed that i was not going to see them. i dunno, the clips/recordings of the band post-Lloyd have sounded pretty solid, almost as though Verlaine is stepping up a bit more, as opposed to just letting Lloyd do the heavy lifting.

tylerw, Friday, 8 November 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link

Psycho Reaction was the encore at the 2004 Irving Plaza shows

Linda Darmstadt (Jon Lewis), Friday, 8 November 2013 16:19 (ten years ago) link

he is now known as "balls" xxp

sleeve, Friday, 8 November 2013 16:25 (ten years ago) link

xp they've been doing it pretty much since the beginning -- i think verlaine has said it's his favorite rock song.

tylerw, Friday, 8 November 2013 16:26 (ten years ago) link

ps, this 76 show has been around for a while, but this version is apparently speed corrected/remastered for what it's worth - http://dbs-repercussion.blogspot.com/2013/11/tele-vision-new-york-city-december-1977.html

tylerw, Friday, 8 November 2013 16:29 (ten years ago) link

1976, despite what the URL says

tylerw, Friday, 8 November 2013 16:29 (ten years ago) link

Thanks

curmudgeon, Friday, 8 November 2013 16:43 (ten years ago) link

Here's another clue for you all
The Georgian was balls

The Killer Inside Meme (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 November 2013 17:10 (ten years ago) link

Richard Lloyd went to Stuyvesant? How did I not know this? Did you know, tylerw?

Pazz & Jop 1280 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 10 November 2013 06:00 (ten years ago) link

Or was this just a rumor started by Lester Bangs and Dave Marsh?

Pazz & Jop 1280 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 10 November 2013 06:03 (ten years ago) link

two shows in brooklyn thanksgiving weekend 11/29 and 11/30. Tickets on sale friday. AYEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pressgang Wolf (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 16:56 (ten years ago) link


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