The Bobby Gillespie Bullshit game

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Taking it a bit seriously aren't you? Pulling Boab's leg is fun, that's why we do it.

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Monday, 2 September 2013 14:24 (ten years ago) link

done in a spirit of affection. I'd take wee Boaby doing his thing than bland "we just do what we do and if anyone else likes it it's a bonus" types any day, but I also reserve the right to take the piss out of rock stars talking nonsense.

Neil S, Monday, 2 September 2013 14:48 (ten years ago) link

.it's such a nice piece, too, to hear him talk about Glasgow

You do realise that's possibly bullshit too? He's the boy who named his first son cried Wolf

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Monday, 2 September 2013 14:55 (ten years ago) link

The man who is tired of Tom D. doing Boaby-speak is tired of ILX.

ᕦ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ᕤ (sic), Monday, 2 September 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link

.it's such a nice piece, too, to hear him talk about Glasgow

You do realise that's possibly bullshit too? He's the boy who named his first son cried Wolf

― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Monday, September 2, 2013 11:55 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

not really sure how deeply I'm meant to be interrogating his biography based on this

it is obviously okay if people want to get at Bobby Gillespie interviews; I can see how there are periodically quotes or postures that seem goofy. but ilx is as attentive to lazy, reflexive cultural targeting as it is compulsive in targeting things that go unexamined; it's valuable to recognise that hating comic sans is a weird, transmitted, second-hand prejudice, & that bacon & zombie humour has this sad, commodifiable quality that can fill a gap & be mindlessly syndicated. I am fond of Bobby Gillespie, so I am here in semi-defensive mode, but at the same time it kinda just reminds me of being at school & wanting to have somebody to hate, just as much as you wanted to have somebody to love; I feel like there should be some kind of check on one's appetite for cynicism, even if it's about, you know, Bono, or someone who provides a well from which you can draw & drink & which will never run dry. Bobby Gillespie called one of his kids Lux after Lux out of the Cramps; I am more convinced that he is writ by his love of music than that he is a guy pretentiously & ignorantly wearing it as a badge of pride.

szarkasm (schlump), Monday, 2 September 2013 16:33 (ten years ago) link

I am more convinced that he is writ by his love of music than that he is a guy pretentiously & ignorantly wearing it as a badge of pride

I think it's probably a little from column a, a little from column b, though I don't think he's igorant.

Lazy Britpop zings are, well, lazy, but Bobby G comes up with such pricelessly entertaining boilerplate rock star silliness that it seems a shame not to make fun of it. And I LIKE Primal Scream!

Neil S, Monday, 2 September 2013 17:03 (ten years ago) link

no, sure, i feel that.

szarkasm (schlump), Monday, 2 September 2013 17:07 (ten years ago) link

I feel like there should be some kind of check on one's appetite for cynicism, even if it's about, you know, Bono,

woah woah fella

rooibos in disguise (wins), Monday, 2 September 2013 17:11 (ten years ago) link

If the lord didn't want us to mock these cunts he wouldn't have given them vocal cords imo

rooibos in disguise (wins), Monday, 2 September 2013 17:12 (ten years ago) link

there is only so much time in the day, i feel like at a certain point you are eating into your Concentrating On Good time by concentrating on bad

szarkasm (schlump), Monday, 2 September 2013 17:14 (ten years ago) link

hating comic sans is a weird, transmitted, second-hand prejudice,

Ban this outrageous troll

ᕦ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ᕤ (sic), Monday, 2 September 2013 17:23 (ten years ago) link

all those people have long been disgruntled by this choice of typeface, have always felt singularly defensive of & admired ringo's drumming on rain

szarkasm (schlump), Monday, 2 September 2013 17:33 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

lol

Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 10:06 (eight years ago) link

My telly must be on the blink, the test card looks awful

gazcom (NickB), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 10:34 (eight years ago) link

Bobbie Crockett

The Male Gaz Coombes (Neil S), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 12:05 (eight years ago) link

But then again..

http://acerecords.co.uk/images/bobbygpresents_72dpi_1.jpg

Mark G, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 12:15 (eight years ago) link

Bobby is obviously an independent intellectual philosophical scholar, he named his album after a Felix Guattari book, (even the though the word Chaosmosis reads like a title of the next Kasabian album)

Chaosmosis: An Ethico-aesthetic Paradigm
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Chaosmosis-An-Ethico-aesthetic-Paradigm-Bakhtin/dp/0909952256

The final work by Guattari before his death in 1992, this is a radical and challenging work concerned with the reinvention and resingularisation of subjectivity. It attempts to embody effective change, the short circuiting of signification, and the proliferation of sense necessary to engage with non-discursive, artistic, poetic and pathic intensities. It includes critical reflections on Lacanian psychoanalysis, structuralissm, information theory, postmodernism and the thoughts of Heidegger

djmartian, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 13:50 (eight years ago) link

"... aye, it's fuckin' the business, ah tell ye... course ah cannae make head nor tail o' it, it might as well be in Swahili, still fuckin' cool title, eh? An' whit aboot that photie o' me keekin' oot through they kinda dangly plastic fuckin' things, jist lik' the fuckin' barbers used tae huv... whit... naw, it's a tribute to fuckin' Sid Viscous, man... he's whit? He's deid? No fuckin' way, since when?"

Otago Imago (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 13:58 (eight years ago) link

Is that the actual cover? That's amazing.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 15:15 (eight years ago) link

01 Trippin' on Your Love
02 (Feeling Like A) Demon Again
03 I Can Change
04 100% or Nothing
05 Private Wars
06 Where the Light Gets In
07 When the Blackout Meets the Fallout
08 Carnival of Fools
09 Golden Rope
10 Autumn in Paradise

I will say those titles give me some sort of hope..

Mark G, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 16:14 (eight years ago) link

I liked the last one

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 16:29 (eight years ago) link

I ordered that "sunday mornin comin down", already had a lot of the tracks on it but i'm just a sucker for that kind of comp (so and so picks out their favorite tracks) and i liked the track list a lot ... Shame about the cover though

the late great, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 23:44 (eight years ago) link

oh man the blurb for this thing though

http://acerecords.co.uk/bobby-gillespie-presents-sunday-mornin-comin-down

the late great, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 23:46 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...

old man shouts at clouds: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-35724501

Gaz upon my works ye mighty, and despair (Neil S), Thursday, 17 March 2016 07:30 (eight years ago) link

Puppet girl singers & boybands, oh diddums

François Pitchforkian (NickB), Thursday, 17 March 2016 07:41 (eight years ago) link

"In the 90s and early 2000s, we could sell hundreds of thousands of art rock albums, but it's not like that anymore."

Art rock, who are ye kidding boaby

ledge, Thursday, 17 March 2016 08:03 (eight years ago) link

also boo fucking hoo, ht should consider himself lucky that he was able to hawk his wares during a time of abundant demand for physical media at inflated prices, not complain that "everything was better in the good old days maaaan"

Gaz upon my works ye mighty, and despair (Neil S), Thursday, 17 March 2016 09:19 (eight years ago) link

Oh, did he have a record shop? (xpost)

Mark G, Thursday, 17 March 2016 12:13 (eight years ago) link

[Creation's] final release was XTRMNTR by Primal Scream, issued in January 2000

Yup, very early 2000s.

Mark G, Thursday, 17 March 2016 12:15 (eight years ago) link

Record shop? He gave Edison the idea for the gramophone. (xp)

A Fifth Beatle Dies (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 March 2016 12:16 (eight years ago) link

"Bobby Gillespie's razor-sharp views and Primal Scream's push to keep things fresh still have a home in the music industry."

impossible raver (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 17 March 2016 13:44 (eight years ago) link

hmm, let us revise..

"Bobby Gillespie's razor-sharp views and Primal Scream's push to keep things fresh still have a home in the music industry."

Mark G, Thursday, 17 March 2016 13:48 (eight years ago) link

Where oh where is the next Stephen Pastel coming from?

A Fifth Beatle Dies (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 March 2016 13:52 (eight years ago) link

the problem is the old stephen pastel's still around

ripple-chested beefchrist (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 17 March 2016 13:57 (eight years ago) link

in an aeroplane..

Mark G, Thursday, 17 March 2016 14:04 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

Some top-quality BG boasting on the first page of this: http://thequietus.com/articles/20158-bobby-gillespie-primal-scream-favourite-albums-interview

When I first heard this at 16 or 17, what with there being no West Indian population in Glasgow and just hearing this record, I immediately loved it. African Dub Chapter 3 is a record that has stayed with me forever, y'know? So when it came to working with Andy Weatherall, who remixed 'I'm Losing More Than I'll Ever Have' and then did 'Loaded' after that, to me, that's like a rock version of dub. So I completely understood it. Meanwhile, there were those who never quite took to it as much as me because they didn't have that art rock/dub background.

No doubt more gold to uncover further in!

ghosts that don't exist (Neil S), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 10:27 (seven years ago) link

I don't know if BG or the writer or the subs are responsible for mangling the story about Eddie Hazel being told (by George Clinton!) how to play the solo on Maggot Brain, but bullshit this is:

On one track, George was told to play a guitar solo and imagine that he was just told that his mother had died.

And I can't make any sense out of this:

I watched repeats of Ready Steady Go! in the mid-'80s and was entranced by performances of 'Mr Tambourine Man', and also when The Beatles covered it too.

Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 10:41 (seven years ago) link

*rubs hands and settles down to read*

(Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 10:42 (seven years ago) link

Also, when I got married to my wife Katy England, I had Alexander McQueen design for myself and my wife a suit with satin lapels and hemmed embroidery in the trousers and jacket with roses, in tribute to Gram Parsons.

ghosts that don't exist (Neil S), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 10:42 (seven years ago) link

it's what he would have wanted

ghosts that don't exist (Neil S), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 10:42 (seven years ago) link

I think that "Beatles" thing is a mishearing of "When the Beatles were on it too" - I think even in Bobby's virtual world, there isn't one where The Beatles covered "Mr Tambourine Man".

Mark G, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 10:53 (seven years ago) link

It's about as predictable a list as you'll ever see but Boab is just being honest there and not trying to impress people, so fair enough. Could do without the stating off the bleeding obvious quite so often.

(Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 10:54 (seven years ago) link

Then again, The Beatles did do "House of the Rising Sun" once, so hey..

Mark G, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 10:57 (seven years ago) link

I think that "Beatles" thing is a mishearing of "When the Beatles were on it too" -

Translation:
"I watched repeats of Ready Steady Go! in the mid-'80s and was entranced by performances of 'Mr Tambourine Man', and also when The Beatles covered it too."

Original:
"Ah mind ah used tae fuckin' watch repeats o' Ready Fuckin' Steady Fuckin' Go!, thinkin', "Whit's the sketch here? Whit they showin' this auld shite fur? Cathy Fuckin' McGowan? Who the fuck's she?" then, next minute, ah wis a', "Holl' ya dancin' bear! Ya beauty!" when the fuckin' Byrds showed up wi' "Mr. Tambourine Man". McGuinn wi' thae fuckin' Gregory's he used tae wear and that wee fat bastard, Crosby, wi' the fuckin' cape oan, like fuckin' Sherlock Holmes or somethin'. And they a' had fuckin' puddin' bowl haircuts and ah used tae think, "Ah wahnt tae look lik' that, ah wahnt tae look that stupid wan day". Oh aye, and the Beatles were oan it an a'."

(Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 11:09 (seven years ago) link

I don't remember Ready Steady Go! ever been repeated in the 1980s, especially not for 'viewers in Scotland'.

(Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 11:10 (seven years ago) link

I do, I have them on VHS, taped off the telly.

Mark G, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 11:14 (seven years ago) link

(Can't say for Scotland, but)

Mark G, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 11:15 (seven years ago) link


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