Bob Dylan: The Bootleg Series

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dylan doesn't need our money but he certainly likes it. everyone d/loading his shit = disinclination to release more of it.

he's probably released enough by now.

listen i bought the fuckin Another Self Portait 2CD set. i've purchased p much every dylan album that's been released (except the xmas one) on the first week since like time out of mind, not to mention all the old stuff on CDs i bought back in the day.

i would have gladly purchased the isle of wight show on its own, as an individual 2CD set or whatever it is....but since the company said the only way i could have gotten it was to buy a $110 deluxe set version i really can't afford, i couldn't do it.

hell i might have even gone for the vinyl box which is like 70 and saved up but they didn't even include the goddamn isle of wight show CDs in that! its' just 2 CDs of random songs that you just purchased on vinyl (which obv could have been done with a damn DL code anyway)

so yeah i don't need a lecture ward, thank u very much

everyone d/loading his shit = disinclination to release more of it.

Considering Dylan fans essentially invented the bootleg in "Great White Wonder," I'm not so sure about this.

dylan doesn't need our money but he certainly likes it. everyone d/loading his shit = disinclination to release more of it.

― Ward Fowler, Thursday, September 5, 2013 6:13 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh, plenty of people are going to buy this

i want to buy it! just not for $110!

they could have done the 2CD Another Self-Portrait + Isle of Wight on another for like $35

& then later just individually packaged self-portrait remaster if they wanted to

but also that's a $4 LP almost anywhere so sorry

AAAAANYWAY GUYS THIS IS STILL GREAT SO LETS NOT DO THE ETHICS OF DOWNLOADING PT. 4,390,890

while you're waiting just watch this

Right on.

upper, i really really wasn't trying to 'lecture' anyone about the ethics or o/wise of downloading stuff, was just trying to say that my impression is that dylan is a bit of a breadhead and that a large part of his motivation for releasing the bootleg series is the cold hard cash they generate - like i just can't seem him sanctioning more archive stuff if they didn't make him any money - he's not doing this for the fans, or for posterity, imho

the outrageous price of the extra discs on this (and on tell tale signs) make me puke, seems like pure hardcore fan gouging and def makes me like dylan - or his management or his accountants or his rec label or whoevs - a little bit less

does bob dylan post here? i heard that some famous people do. is he who they are talking about?

and hell yeah dylan is gouging fans for money and you would be a sucker to buy this shit instead of download it. he is a great american songwriter, but he pretty openly doesn't care about his fans. it shouldn't make you like him more or less... it is an integral part of his mystique.

Lately the impetus for various releases seems to be the extension of copyright. See: that huge UK rarities dump last year.

hey james franco feel like we should talk

the isle of wight set is so nice to hear in full, in sbd quality. favorite things are the john wesley harding numbers -- i love that album, but i can't help but be mystified as to why Dylan didn't just record it w/ The Band. i guess he thought about having hudson and robertson do overdubs, but decided against it.

The like a rolling stone is crazy, as if they melded the original with the basement tapes "all I have to do is dream". One too many mornings another hilite.

i e-mailed GM to tell him that i enjoyed his notes for this latest bootleg thing and i was happy when he told me that he loves Nazareth's version of "The Ballad of Hollis Brown". one of the best dylan covers of all time if you ask me. he'll be in boston this fall for an upcoming lecture series. i'm gonna try and make the dylan one. looks good.

http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~amciv/massey/index.shtml

wow thx for the tip! this is nuts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoNoUw9br5M

Christ, that's a motherfucker.

yeah they basically invented doom metal with that

omg that guitar sound--what year is that?

that song seems to have been a favorite among "heavy" bands--stooges did it in concert.

this is a wonderful collection of songs. really happy i bought this. i would be curious to hear the vinyl, but the CDs sound fine. i wonder who they got to put it on vinyl. its all from old tapes, so, it could sound great if they did a good job.

Nazareth's version roolz, ditto their ultrapainful, truthful "Love Hurts." I'd like to hear a whole metal or "proto-metal" album of Dylan covers. More links please!
One seemingly likely reason for not doing JWH w The Band: he wanted somrthing much more austere and near the knuckle; droll smoke ring curlicues and occasional death marches, re grimy Basement Tapes, would have blunted these songs. (The album was trippy enough: my personal acid folk.)

yeah, i agree, JWH is perfectly realized in its own ultra stripped down way. but the isle of wight versions are quite nice, maybe it's just too bad they didn't play a few more shows around that time. this one from 74 is killer -- the only time it's ever been performed iirc
http://vimeo.com/63727027

I'd like to hear a whole metal or "proto-metal" album of Dylan covers. More links please!

Otm

i brought my 45 of "love hurts" to music class to share when i was a little kid and everyone was like whuuuuuu-getthefuckoutofhere...more styx please! kind of embarrassing.

Also their Joni Mitchell cover: shriek of "Turn this crazy bird around" is word to "Freebird."
xp Tyler: Oh yeah, thanks for the link!Good to have both, but better to have the existing LP first, and then live explorations with the Band, in the great tradition. As far as austerity goes, they could say,"No prob, Boss!", cos they're consummate pros, but, for one thing, there are five of them, and while there may possibly be five instruments on some Harding track, never sounds like near that many, at least on my old LP. Even on Planet Waves' "Dirge", which may be just Dylan's outreach vocals, plod piano, and Robertson's one-take guitar response, the latter is kind of barbed wire flamenco--still too fancy for Hardingville. The Band is just too colorful for this dark grey charred backwoods prowl.

yeah JWH is mostly just dylan + bass & drums (with a little pedal steel there at the end).
no dylan doom comp would be complete w/o this one of course
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBU9pEQwtQE

JWH = acoustic power trio

Yeah, that xp works too: the slow Indian burn, meditation of the torturer. Even better: Dylan and his road crew in the early 90s, galloping toward the Hendrix/D & The B '74 extended guitar solo--and then right past it, fading away,faking out the quality along the watchtower and we'uns in the mountainside ampitheater cheap seats too. Then back for another turn, over and over. Never got used to that, and it didn't end, just turned into another golden oldie.

JWH = acoustic power trio Amen.

thanks to a kind board member i'm listening to the isle of wight festival

not bad...though i'm a bit disappointed....that killer "highway 61 revisited" on the 2CD box might have raised my expectations too high.....not that this is bad but i'm glad i didn't drop 100 to get it

would be happy to be another bro helped out there!

not so doomy but one of my favorite dylan covers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8IodIxh5S4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-h1K64LusY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-hqaBHC7Ek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_iE_RqiljQ

Ha, was just about to post that! Best collection of Dyl covers I've heard (although that title track gets very high-pitched at the very end of choruses)

(they make joek)

hollies dylan album is bad. post-nash album. or i remember it being boring and i love the hollies.

didn't nash quit because he knew it was going to be bad or something?

Nash quit cuz he had to go fight in Vietnam iirc

this is true. graham and stephen stills led an elite fighting squad into the bush.

Meanwhile, Crosby went native and lorded over his jungle kingdom with the help of Dennis Hopper.

pretty amazing how loose the isle of wight show is -- dylan realizing mid song he has the wrong harmonica for "tambourine man," the sound of Robertson reminding Dylan how "lay lady lay" goes...

Wild Mountain Thyme!

yeah that one is pretty amazing. kinda perfect for a pastoral English setting like the isle of wight.

Younger me, who only knew at most the Dylan hits, was introduced to JWH by way of Yo La Tengo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73qny9RqVEM

I remember thinking, huh, what a pretty song, maybe there are other Bob Dylan songs beyond the hits that I should hear ...

That's like me with Robyn Hitchcock covering "odds & ends" at the Croc in Seattle in 94 or so. I had never heard the basement tapes yet...

And on thread topic rh has covered at least two self portrait tunes (copper kettle and let it be me).