letz talk abt gucci mane

yeah nicki flayed him

Yeah, this is some indefensibly hateful, sexist slander.

this is true but also... arguably the guy's biggest underground hit goes "i'm a treat her like a dog / i'm a feed her like a dog" and this stuff isn't nearly as bad as that

Best explanation is he got dropped by his label and went into wounded dog/suicide bomber mode, but that's still no excuse

― Evan R, Monday, September 9, 2013 6:18 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

eh in that breakfast club interview from a while back he intimated that he had no connection with atlantic at all so i doubt he got sent into a tailspin or something

yeah possibly no rapper has ever seemed less concerned w/ staying on a major label. The Appeal didn't pop and he just immediately resumed dropping mixtapes every 3 months and did a few independent albums, never pushed another single through Atlantic or announced an album for them to keep delaying.

I misread the timeline of his tweets. I thought it was tweets about Atlantic execs that opened up the floodgates, but looking back it seems like they were open long before he even got around to addressing Atlantic

arguably the guy's biggest underground hit goes "i'm a treat her like a dog / i'm a feed her like a dog" and this stuff isn't nearly as bad as that

What's frustrating with Gucci is he can turn on and off the misogyny like a faucet. On some releases it's hardly a factor, but on others (Trap Back 2, the only thing he's put out this year I can't stomach) it's utterly intolerable.

i don't think it gets 'turned off' so much as he just has a lot of songs that have no thing to do w/ sex/women/etc.

lol @ tyga coming back at gucci saying he has HIV. we're dealing with children here

He has songs about women that aren't hateful per se. But not remotely like pro women or something, more abt how good of a date he will give them.

v upsetting day, obv.

I mean, there's a video of him *punching* a woman during a performance

"He has songs about women that aren't hateful per se."

lol that wasn't a defense merely a statement of fact

https://twitter.com/BigHomieDoe/status/377175736853225472
https://twitter.com/BigHomieDoe/status/377176047017394178

interesting perspective

didn't he toss a woman out of a moving car once

My hunch is that this has something to do with the fact that he just broke up with his girlfriend (the one with the Rodman hair) whom he clearly was in love with, judging from his recent output. (Nothin on you, etc. etc.)

Or of course perhaps it was the other way around and he broke up with her because he went batshit crazy, which might or might not be a consequence of his rumoured ascites. Sigh.

Also, this is pretty bad (ALSO VNSFW):
https://twitter.com/NikoWavy/status/377234904427134977/photo/1

rap game amanda bynes

thanks

Also, this is pretty bad (ALSO VNSFW):
https://twitter.com/NikoWavy/status/377234904427134977/photo/1

― longneck, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 10:51 (1 hour ago) Bookmark

“People won’t believe how much thought goes into this stuff… Working with DONDA was good for the mind anyway,” said 2 Chainz. “A bunch of guys, young guys, with all these crazy ideas and crazy resources getting pulled from different areas. Actually, this cover right here, and I don’t even know if 'Ye wants me to say it, but he actually… photoshopped. Like he did something. I didn’t know you could erase on the computer. This computer eraser. Move some stuff over. So, I was like ‘Man, you slick a geek. I didn’t know you was that smart.’”

JACKMASTER ‏@jackmaster 11h
Wish Gucci Mane had even the slightest grasp of English grammar :( would have made today a lot easier
Retweeted by Gucci Mane

lol

JACKMASTER ‏@jackmaster 10h
@slimslwdwn @gucci1017 im no "klown azz nigga" as you so eloquently put it. Just Glaswegian. Different kind of hood, pal.

this, this is the beef the game's been missing

It's pretty heartbreaking actually. I really don't want him to go out like this.

haha i don't think you're following rtc's train of thought

lol I caught the sarcasm - and I still think it's pretty heartbreaking.

yeah it's v sad that someone from the hoods of Glasgow is getting mixed up in this kind of twitter beef instead of transcending their rough background

Totally stoked for next week's L-Vis 1990 vs Chief Keef bitchfest.

Sigh. I'm just worried about him. I've been rooting for dude for so long now but I can't see how he's ever coming back from this.

bucky done gun

haha jackmaster is such a douche

is one's sympathy for this guy not maybe slightly depleted by the gross abusive shit he's been doing over the past 24h, like is that minaj pic not maybe overwhelming what is disappointing about the guy's personal narrative?

never treat a rapper like a role model

setting the comparatively modest goal of Don't Excuse Revenge Porn

as i sit back relax
steam a coke blunt, sip a purple stuff
think about the sexy singers that i wanna sex

trolling aint easy but it sure is fun
when i bust my tweets
i bust em one by one

schlump otm, i get the "this is a sad situation overall" line but not really the "this dude was my hero TEARZ" thing

like i said is there anything to indicate that this guy isn't basically just a complete horrible person?

He's obviously bipolar or something but I really don't want to judge music by how sympathetic I find the musician to be. As for Gucci, he is an important rapper responsible for a lot of the music I have loved over the past 6 or so years. He just dropped three pretty great tapes in a day. And quite a few of the interesting young producers out started their careers making beats for Gucci mixtapes. So yeah, I find it distressing when he unravels in public.

"Big News : We found a really really macho & misogynist rapper !"

maybe he just does too many drugs. junkies act really shitty.

i dunno like i'm saying it's news it's just the "OH WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF POOR GUCCI"...it's like the dude has been convicted of assault, charged with murder, and now is talking all this ill shit. maybe he needs to deal with his shit and clean up. or maybe he's just not a very nice person.

i'm not saying anyone has to judge music by how sympathetic they are but getting all emotional abt this seems really dumb

Short of it leading to some kind of serious beef he didn't already have, I don't see how any of this really changes anything. He'll just keep constantly dropping music independently for the same audience, with or without the revolving door of Brick Squad sidekicks and occasional mainstream features he's always had.

Other than being less consistently good/popular than he was in 2009-2010, it's kind of remarkable how static the quality and quantity of his work has been over the last 8 years or so, amid constant personal and professional issues and controversies. A buncha salty tweets seem pretty minor really.

lol robo-al over here

i propose we edit the thread subject; insert "not" between "letz" and "talk"

i wouldn't dare touch a letter of a luriqua post good sir

Imo, Gucci has been pretty important these years, always collaborating with and supporting young artists and producers who would later make their mark on the ATL scene and beyond. If he's burning all his bridges and goes into complete paranoia/psycho mode that can't be a good thing for anybody.

if Gucci was supposed to be the stabilizing force in Keef's career for years to come then well good luck with that

starring Gucci Mane as Furious Styles

No one can help Keef I'm afraid. Not even Gucci.