letz talk abt gucci mane

Also, this is pretty bad (ALSO VNSFW):
https://twitter.com/NikoWavy/status/377234904427134977/photo/1

― longneck, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 10:51 (1 hour ago) Bookmark

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JACKMASTER ‏@jackmaster 11h
Wish Gucci Mane had even the slightest grasp of English grammar :( would have made today a lot easier
Retweeted by Gucci Mane

lol

JACKMASTER ‏@jackmaster 10h
@slimslwdwn @gucci1017 im no "klown azz nigga" as you so eloquently put it. Just Glaswegian. Different kind of hood, pal.

this, this is the beef the game's been missing

It's pretty heartbreaking actually. I really don't want him to go out like this.

haha i don't think you're following rtc's train of thought

lol I caught the sarcasm - and I still think it's pretty heartbreaking.

yeah it's v sad that someone from the hoods of Glasgow is getting mixed up in this kind of twitter beef instead of transcending their rough background

Totally stoked for next week's L-Vis 1990 vs Chief Keef bitchfest.

Sigh. I'm just worried about him. I've been rooting for dude for so long now but I can't see how he's ever coming back from this.

bucky done gun

haha jackmaster is such a douche

is one's sympathy for this guy not maybe slightly depleted by the gross abusive shit he's been doing over the past 24h, like is that minaj pic not maybe overwhelming what is disappointing about the guy's personal narrative?

never treat a rapper like a role model

setting the comparatively modest goal of Don't Excuse Revenge Porn

as i sit back relax
steam a coke blunt, sip a purple stuff
think about the sexy singers that i wanna sex

trolling aint easy but it sure is fun
when i bust my tweets
i bust em one by one

schlump otm, i get the "this is a sad situation overall" line but not really the "this dude was my hero TEARZ" thing

like i said is there anything to indicate that this guy isn't basically just a complete horrible person?

He's obviously bipolar or something but I really don't want to judge music by how sympathetic I find the musician to be. As for Gucci, he is an important rapper responsible for a lot of the music I have loved over the past 6 or so years. He just dropped three pretty great tapes in a day. And quite a few of the interesting young producers out started their careers making beats for Gucci mixtapes. So yeah, I find it distressing when he unravels in public.

"Big News : We found a really really macho & misogynist rapper !"

maybe he just does too many drugs. junkies act really shitty.

i dunno like i'm saying it's news it's just the "OH WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF POOR GUCCI"...it's like the dude has been convicted of assault, charged with murder, and now is talking all this ill shit. maybe he needs to deal with his shit and clean up. or maybe he's just not a very nice person.

i'm not saying anyone has to judge music by how sympathetic they are but getting all emotional abt this seems really dumb

Short of it leading to some kind of serious beef he didn't already have, I don't see how any of this really changes anything. He'll just keep constantly dropping music independently for the same audience, with or without the revolving door of Brick Squad sidekicks and occasional mainstream features he's always had.

Other than being less consistently good/popular than he was in 2009-2010, it's kind of remarkable how static the quality and quantity of his work has been over the last 8 years or so, amid constant personal and professional issues and controversies. A buncha salty tweets seem pretty minor really.

lol robo-al over here

i propose we edit the thread subject; insert "not" between "letz" and "talk"

i wouldn't dare touch a letter of a luriqua post good sir

Imo, Gucci has been pretty important these years, always collaborating with and supporting young artists and producers who would later make their mark on the ATL scene and beyond. If he's burning all his bridges and goes into complete paranoia/psycho mode that can't be a good thing for anybody.

if Gucci was supposed to be the stabilizing force in Keef's career for years to come then well good luck with that

starring Gucci Mane as Furious Styles

No one can help Keef I'm afraid. Not even Gucci.

He's obviously bipolar or something but I really don't want to judge music by how sympathetic I find the musician to be

i feel like this does not apply to what is happening, here, because you are doing the opposite & judging the musician according to how sympathetic you find the music to be. his behaviour isn't irrelevant to the music, the music is irrelevant to his behaviour; it is a guy volubly, publicly talking really demeaningly about women musicians, en masse, something which a general context of misogyny doesn't have to inure us to the particular grossness & violence of. his mixtapes don't mean anything here. you can still jam them all you want, but they add nothing to a conversation about his public persona.

i felt like i wasn't sufficiently literate to parse the various levels of technology that masked the VNSFW thing upthread - whether i was meant to read RTC's post as suggestion that the picture was a fake?, whether the twitter RT was an actual RT?, &c - but at face value/presuming that was a gucci tweet it just seems profoundly awful/beyond salty tweets, &c.

otm. I'll still jam Gucci on occasion but fuck this guy.

The picture was obviously fake - very crudely done and very nasty. It was "pretty bad" aesthetically and morally. But it exists now thanks to this.

Also I don't think I am really doing "the opposite". I'm worried about dude because he is obviously in a very bad place right now and I'm worried about how this meltdown will affect his career. Simple as that. If someone beat him up over this I would not cry, believe me. But right now it just seems as if he's going over some kind of edge that he might not come back from.

ay kev fyi I'm not robotically repeating myself if I occasionally throw in new adjectives, gucci taught me that

lol

haha it wasn't the repeating yourself, it was the "guys his career is going to be fine!" in the middle of everyone talking about how much of an asshole he is that i thought was v in character

well i mean i was responding to longneck's "I'm worried about him, I don't see him ever coming back from this public unraveling" posts

I really don't think his career is going to be fine unless there's an intervention or something.

i'm not saying anyone has to judge music by how sympathetic they are but getting all emotional abt this seems really dumb

― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, September 10, 2013 12:27 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

fwiw i think nicki came off well & i don't think she will be remotely hurt by this

she clapped back like she's supposed to, rap drama happened, nothing changed

also this isnt even remotely out of character for dude

I really don't think his career is going to be fine unless there's an intervention or something.

― longneck, Tuesday, September 10, 2013 4:54 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I shudder at the thought of what people might be present at this

shed a tear for gucci mane / he walks with his head down to the ground / took the shoes right off his feet / and threw the poor boy right out in the street

As long as he's making music I don't see how he could suddenly drop to some lower level than he's been at the last couple years where he's dropping mixtapes in a Charles Hamilton-style vacuum

(honestly getting some wesley willis vibes over how some people are treating gucci's tweets in the greater internet-o-sphere)

I really don't think his career is going to be fine unless there's an intervention or something.

― longneck, Tuesday, September 10, 2013 4:54 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I shudder at the thought of what people might be present at this

Fun cast: Flocka with his arms crossed; Young Scooter, not helping things by yes-manning everything Gucci says; an empty chair with a framed photo of Slim Dunk

(honestly getting some wesley willis vibes over how some people are treating gucci's tweets in the greater internet-o-sphere)

― "Dave Barlow" is the name Lou uses on sabermetrics baseball sites (s.clover), Tuesday, September 10, 2013 4:02 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

agreed.

He's obviously bipolar

obviously!