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I've got it on my 4 and have no noticeable slowness or decreased battery life at all, pretty happy with it.

Ordered two new 5ses today, white one for me, black one for the wife. Gazelle says they'll give $115 each for our plain old 4 models which I'm quite fine with unless there are better offers out there?

joygoat, Friday, 20 September 2013 18:56 (ten years ago) link

Anyone put iOS7 on their 4? Not sure whether it's worth doing or not.

In some ways it has improved the basic functions of my phone. For example, the home button actually works correctly now.

polyphonic, Friday, 20 September 2013 19:04 (ten years ago) link

Anyone else experiencing a shorter battery life after updating? I've no stats, but it defo seems the batteries of both my 4S and iPad are draining faster. And that is with airdrop switched off.

What is 'reduce motion' supposed to actually do? Turned it on but can't notice a significant change?

In the airplane over the .CSS (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 20 September 2013 19:22 (ten years ago) link

Sorry, didn't see battery life was discussed already

In the airplane over the .CSS (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 20 September 2013 19:23 (ten years ago) link

reduce motion gets rid of the parallax, which is only irritating once you notice it. i guess also you can turn off background updating to improve battery life reputedly (don't recall if that was discussed upthread?)

Saul Goodberg (by Musket and Pup Tent) (s.clover), Friday, 20 September 2013 19:27 (ten years ago) link

At times, say reporting a meeting, I have to use my iPad for some hours at a time. I did notice something like 'seasickness' today switching between apps a lot. Curious to see if switching reduce motion off will cure that, though I'm not noticing anything right now.

Turning background updating off is a good idea. It explains the 'jumps' in battery life my iPad made yesterday and today, because there were 20+ apps in need of an update all of a sudden. It can also screw with your cell phone subscription/deal.

In the airplane over the .CSS (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 20 September 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link

You can tell it to only do automatic downloads over wifi.

eris bueller (lukas), Friday, 20 September 2013 19:56 (ten years ago) link

Oh i see, thanks

In the airplane over the .CSS (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 20 September 2013 20:19 (ten years ago) link

report from the field - turning on reduce motion, turning off airdrop and turning off bluetooth radically improved battery life on my five - at this point i am at 89% today vs 16% yesterday at the same time coming from a full charge 6 hours ago. tbf i have spent slightly less time fucking with my phone, but still, thats huge.

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Friday, 20 September 2013 20:42 (ten years ago) link

tim cook is on twitter

markers, Friday, 20 September 2013 21:32 (ten years ago) link

https://twitter.com/tim_cook

markers, Friday, 20 September 2013 21:33 (ten years ago) link

weird shit

markers, Friday, 20 September 2013 21:33 (ten years ago) link

weird cook

markers, Friday, 20 September 2013 21:33 (ten years ago) link

i hope he starts replying to people

markers, Friday, 20 September 2013 21:33 (ten years ago) link

are you guys ordering from the apple store or from your carrier?

"Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Friday, 20 September 2013 22:41 (ten years ago) link

hey mh, how many apps do you have on your current phone?
I feel like I need to go to 64GB but the price isnt pretty

"Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Friday, 20 September 2013 22:42 (ten years ago) link

also if i buy from apple do i keep my unlimited data????

"Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Friday, 20 September 2013 22:43 (ten years ago) link

someone mistook me for an employee tonight

markers, Saturday, 21 September 2013 00:04 (ten years ago) link

i was wearing a blue tshirt

markers, Saturday, 21 September 2013 00:04 (ten years ago) link

oops

markers, Saturday, 21 September 2013 00:04 (ten years ago) link

so did you just stay and start working there or what

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 September 2013 00:06 (ten years ago) link

i should've. i could've probably passed for at least a while

markers, Saturday, 21 September 2013 00:09 (ten years ago) link

seeded iTunes radio with some underrated Aerosmith bootlegs and I gotta say this is kicking the ass of all my previous attempts to use Pandora.

i too went to college (silby), Saturday, 21 September 2013 01:00 (ten years ago) link

thanks iTunes radio, who would have thought I did want to listen to that much Fun Boy Three

beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Saturday, 21 September 2013 01:03 (ten years ago) link

Stopped by an Apple store to take a look. Like the new gold color, which only subtly changes the front or side appearance from the white/silver version, but those chamfered edges and the ring around the sapphire home button are polished gold instead of chrome, and the back has a nice appearance too. Space Grey isn't as elegant as the slatelike black on the old 5, but reportedly won't show scratches as much either. The 5C looks and feels like shiny Bakelite, and the softer contours around the back make it more comfortable to hold. But wow is it heavy compared to the 5S - what's up with that?

Was a bit disappointed with the new Apple 5S cases - they're made of anolyne leather so I was expecting a soft touch, not a thin hard case that felt like stiff cardboard.

I'll take a gold 64GB 5S. But on which (US) carrier?

- Verizon is so expensive, $100/month for anything useful (2GB monthly data), and there's still that annoying CDMA limitation of not being able to get online during a voice call (except where there's a wi-fi signal). But their coverage in my parts is excellent, and their LTE coverage the most widespread.
- AT&T will give you 3GB monthly data for $70/mo, though you'll have to pony up for the $90/mo 5GB plan if you want tethering (free texting adds $20/month - WTF? just use iMessage or Whatsapp or just email and forget 20-cent txts except for the handful of remaining dumbphone users).
- T-Mobile offers 2.5GB and tethering for only $60/mo, or unlimited data (albeit throttled if you use too much) for $70/mo, though you'll pay $450 more for an unsubsidized phone. Upside of course is not being tied to a 2-year contract. I *think* the phone is unlocked and the same as the AT&T and maybe Verizon phones. T-Mo doesn't have any LTE footprint to speak of, but their widespread HSPA+ network is almost as speedy.
- Apple didn't have info on Sprint's plan in their stores because they're about to change the terms, but currently it's $80/mo for unlimited, unthrottled data, no tethering, and unlimited voice. Great, except they don't have LTE planned for where I live, and even their announced planned LTE expansion still leaves a smaller footprint than AT&T or Verizon already has. And their 3G is dog-slow. The Sprint handset is a different model than that used by the other three big carriers, and like Verizon uses CDMA for voice, so again, no talking and surfing at the same time.

How much data will I use streaming music about 3 hours a day, with occasional sending or receiving photos, and much more rarely, videos?

Lee626, Saturday, 21 September 2013 01:17 (ten years ago) link

I'm on my parents' Verizon family plan right now and not eligible to upgrade till December I think. If I stay on their plan I'll stay there, but if not I might by a totally-unlocked phone and stick it on Virgin mobile.

i too went to college (silby), Saturday, 21 September 2013 01:36 (ten years ago) link

Took a look myself tonight. Half of the ones on display had dead batteries, which was a bit Dixons. The 5s is definitely nice, but £700 nice? I can't quite bring myself to do it when the 4s is still so good. What strange disease is this?

stet, Saturday, 21 September 2013 02:51 (ten years ago) link

yeah tbh I am way more itching to buy a retina iPad mini *crosses fingers* than an iPhone 5s. iOS 7 on my 4S seems to have blown out the cobwebs quite a bit.

i too went to college (silby), Saturday, 21 September 2013 03:50 (ten years ago) link

my battery was starting to eat shit before the update. I guess there's AppleCare, but ehhh new phone

beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Saturday, 21 September 2013 03:53 (ten years ago) link

lol good luck usa this is charming

caek, Saturday, 21 September 2013 04:45 (ten years ago) link

ik, r

i too went to college (silby), Saturday, 21 September 2013 05:27 (ten years ago) link

lol, i'm just noticing how if you're using the new animated backgrounds, much like the icons, the bubbles move around as you tilt the phone, even on the lock screen. hooray gimmicks!

Nhex, Saturday, 21 September 2013 05:33 (ten years ago) link

I thought my phone wasn't doing the icon parallax thing everyone is admiring/complaining about, but then I squinted and stared and I could see it happening, so it clearly doesn't jump out at me like it does to some of you. Which is fine, I think!

i too went to college (silby), Saturday, 21 September 2013 05:35 (ten years ago) link

the one thing I'm missing is a dedicated search bar in safari since, as an idiot, I often repeat searches several times when I inevitably forget what I just learned an hour earlier.

Clay, Saturday, 21 September 2013 05:49 (ten years ago) link

Some links:

I have a big issue with the oversized copy hitting the edges of buttons http://sloppyui.tumblr.com
I got a few useful tips from this: http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/18/4741412/the-best-hidden-features-in-ios-7

Me & Mahomies (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 21 September 2013 06:08 (ten years ago) link

I thought my phone wasn't doing the icon parallax thing everyone is admiring/complaining about, but then I squinted and stared and I could see it happening, so it clearly doesn't jump out at me like it does to some of you. Which is fine, I think!

don't at all mind the parallax, which like you I find unobtrusive, taking time to get used to bungee-jumping in and out of apps tho.

Fizzles, Saturday, 21 September 2013 06:23 (ten years ago) link

the biggest problem with parallax is that it doesn't add any value at all

obi wankin' obi (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 21 September 2013 07:21 (ten years ago) link

it's just shit jerking around for the sake of shit jerking around

obi wankin' obi (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 21 September 2013 07:22 (ten years ago) link

otm, same w the zooming apps

Me & Mahomies (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 21 September 2013 07:24 (ten years ago) link

yeah, it all feels like powerpoint-presentation-tool-of-the-moment prezi

obi wankin' obi (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 21 September 2013 07:39 (ten years ago) link

i fixed my email issues by deleting the accounts and adding them again from scratch on my phone. (using the tickboxes in itunes to replace my phone's info with the info from my computer's email settings didn't work)

i'm a bit miffed at that but on the other hand it's sort of nice to get down into the nitty gritty of a system, set things up, etc.; apple has gotten SO GOOD at seamlessly transferring info from one phone to another, etc, that there's very little thrill left in upgrading to a new phone - everything looks exactly the same, works exactly the same... so at least with a system upgrade there's that luxurious feeling of tinkering away with a bunch of new stuff

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 21 September 2013 12:25 (ten years ago) link

the biggest problem with parallax is that it doesn't add any value at all

― obi wankin' obi (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, September 21, 2013 3:21 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm, same w the zooming apps

― Me & Mahomies (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, September 21, 2013 3:24 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if i had to guess at their thinking here both of these are part of the larger plan of placing everything in the phone in a physical place, the background is behind everything else and it actually looks like that, the apps live inside the app icons like youre opening a little door and walking in rather than just being something that triggers a new unrelated screen, its generally pretty in line w the iphones interface being closer to literal than metaphoric, eg you dont move a mouse around you just touch the thing you want w yr finger, its p ingenious imho

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 September 2013 13:44 (ten years ago) link

i do get that, but the parallax is jerky and sputtery at best, and it works to enhance exactly nothing. at least the bungy zooming gives a prezi-alike sense of place.

the problem i have with this parallax thing is almost exactly the problem i have with 3d glasses—gimmickry is employed to tell you something that you already know. obviously the icons are 'in front' of the wallpaper because that's how the whole device works. (same with all the literal zooming, but to a leaser extent.)

obi wankin' obi (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 21 September 2013 13:54 (ten years ago) link

followed the recommendations for prolonging battery life, seems to work for when the phone's at rest but using it still murders it. left it unplugged last night and had 100% at 830, now it's 10 and after using only google maps for an hour I'm down to 54%.

a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Saturday, 21 September 2013 13:54 (ten years ago) link

having got the shits with the battery life of every iphone ever, i bought an external recharge pack months ago and just live off that. ios 7 probably destroys my battery too, but i don't give it a chance to matter.

obi wankin' obi (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 21 September 2013 13:56 (ten years ago) link

using the gps is pretty battery intensive in general

乒乓, Saturday, 21 September 2013 14:00 (ten years ago) link

meanwhile my iphone 4 on ios6 is at 92%

a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Saturday, 21 September 2013 14:01 (ten years ago) link

i do get that, but the parallax is jerky and sputtery at best, and it works to enhance exactly nothing. at least the bungy zooming gives a prezi-alike sense of place.

― obi wankin' obi (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, September 21, 2013 9:54 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

my guess once people develop a mental image on a quasi subconscious level of ios as a 3d space these effects will improve usability, tho ur a tech dude who im sure is really good at using such things already so maybe it doesnt matter to you, but i think its super clever and subtle, lol everyone talking abt it being flat

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 September 2013 14:05 (ten years ago) link

tho i dont really understand being mad at parallax, its not very intrusive, most people dont even notice its there

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 September 2013 14:06 (ten years ago) link


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