New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

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I have a big issue with the oversized copy hitting the edges of buttons http://sloppyui.tumblr.com
I got a few useful tips from this: http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/18/4741412/the-best-hidden-features-in-ios-7

Me & Mahomies (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 21 September 2013 06:08 (ten years ago) link

I thought my phone wasn't doing the icon parallax thing everyone is admiring/complaining about, but then I squinted and stared and I could see it happening, so it clearly doesn't jump out at me like it does to some of you. Which is fine, I think!

don't at all mind the parallax, which like you I find unobtrusive, taking time to get used to bungee-jumping in and out of apps tho.

Fizzles, Saturday, 21 September 2013 06:23 (ten years ago) link

the biggest problem with parallax is that it doesn't add any value at all

obi wankin' obi (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 21 September 2013 07:21 (ten years ago) link

it's just shit jerking around for the sake of shit jerking around

obi wankin' obi (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 21 September 2013 07:22 (ten years ago) link

otm, same w the zooming apps

Me & Mahomies (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 21 September 2013 07:24 (ten years ago) link

yeah, it all feels like powerpoint-presentation-tool-of-the-moment prezi

obi wankin' obi (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 21 September 2013 07:39 (ten years ago) link

i fixed my email issues by deleting the accounts and adding them again from scratch on my phone. (using the tickboxes in itunes to replace my phone's info with the info from my computer's email settings didn't work)

i'm a bit miffed at that but on the other hand it's sort of nice to get down into the nitty gritty of a system, set things up, etc.; apple has gotten SO GOOD at seamlessly transferring info from one phone to another, etc, that there's very little thrill left in upgrading to a new phone - everything looks exactly the same, works exactly the same... so at least with a system upgrade there's that luxurious feeling of tinkering away with a bunch of new stuff

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 21 September 2013 12:25 (ten years ago) link

the biggest problem with parallax is that it doesn't add any value at all

― obi wankin' obi (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, September 21, 2013 3:21 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm, same w the zooming apps

― Me & Mahomies (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, September 21, 2013 3:24 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if i had to guess at their thinking here both of these are part of the larger plan of placing everything in the phone in a physical place, the background is behind everything else and it actually looks like that, the apps live inside the app icons like youre opening a little door and walking in rather than just being something that triggers a new unrelated screen, its generally pretty in line w the iphones interface being closer to literal than metaphoric, eg you dont move a mouse around you just touch the thing you want w yr finger, its p ingenious imho

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 September 2013 13:44 (ten years ago) link

i do get that, but the parallax is jerky and sputtery at best, and it works to enhance exactly nothing. at least the bungy zooming gives a prezi-alike sense of place.

the problem i have with this parallax thing is almost exactly the problem i have with 3d glasses—gimmickry is employed to tell you something that you already know. obviously the icons are 'in front' of the wallpaper because that's how the whole device works. (same with all the literal zooming, but to a leaser extent.)

obi wankin' obi (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 21 September 2013 13:54 (ten years ago) link

followed the recommendations for prolonging battery life, seems to work for when the phone's at rest but using it still murders it. left it unplugged last night and had 100% at 830, now it's 10 and after using only google maps for an hour I'm down to 54%.

a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Saturday, 21 September 2013 13:54 (ten years ago) link

having got the shits with the battery life of every iphone ever, i bought an external recharge pack months ago and just live off that. ios 7 probably destroys my battery too, but i don't give it a chance to matter.

obi wankin' obi (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 21 September 2013 13:56 (ten years ago) link

using the gps is pretty battery intensive in general

乒乓, Saturday, 21 September 2013 14:00 (ten years ago) link

meanwhile my iphone 4 on ios6 is at 92%

a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Saturday, 21 September 2013 14:01 (ten years ago) link

i do get that, but the parallax is jerky and sputtery at best, and it works to enhance exactly nothing. at least the bungy zooming gives a prezi-alike sense of place.

― obi wankin' obi (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, September 21, 2013 9:54 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

my guess once people develop a mental image on a quasi subconscious level of ios as a 3d space these effects will improve usability, tho ur a tech dude who im sure is really good at using such things already so maybe it doesnt matter to you, but i think its super clever and subtle, lol everyone talking abt it being flat

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 September 2013 14:05 (ten years ago) link

tho i dont really understand being mad at parallax, its not very intrusive, most people dont even notice its there

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 September 2013 14:06 (ten years ago) link

yeah, parallax never bothered me

in other news, my iphone 5 is at 27%. so, 4 hour battery life? awesome.

a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Saturday, 21 September 2013 14:42 (ten years ago) link

yeah i had to change wallpapers to something with a horizon before i was even able to understand it

call all destroyer, Saturday, 21 September 2013 14:46 (ten years ago) link

my iPhone 5 life seems to have increased after the update, edward I bet if u run google maps on your 4 the battery life will also plummet

乒乓, Saturday, 21 September 2013 14:50 (ten years ago) link

yeah my battery life is better than before i think

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Saturday, 21 September 2013 15:09 (ten years ago) link

well I'm not running google maps anymore, just ilx/FB use for the past 90 minutes and I'm at 15%.

a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Saturday, 21 September 2013 15:11 (ten years ago) link

11%

liveblogging my battery death

a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Saturday, 21 September 2013 15:17 (ten years ago) link

only thing running is safari lol

a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Saturday, 21 September 2013 15:17 (ten years ago) link

dead @ 3 hrs 45 min, a new record

a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Saturday, 21 September 2013 15:48 (ten years ago) link

dang

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 September 2013 16:00 (ten years ago) link

Mine's the same pretty much.

Me & Mahomies (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 21 September 2013 16:28 (ten years ago) link

parallax looks fine to me

what's the point of any graphical anything on a phone? to make it look and feel nicer. what, you want a command line interface?

socki (s1ocki), Saturday, 21 September 2013 16:48 (ten years ago) link

but it doesnt look and feel nicer to me, good thing they gave me a way to turn it off tho.

Me & Mahomies (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 21 September 2013 16:53 (ten years ago) link

it's awesome

beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Saturday, 21 September 2013 16:54 (ten years ago) link

corporate day at cricket with software developers, and project manager next to me referred to android and eye-oss and I would not have had one fuck what he was on about had it not been for this thread.

I thought about saying 'you said eye-oss' but felt it might be arduous so refrained.

Fizzles, Saturday, 21 September 2013 16:56 (ten years ago) link

you're all gonna love it in a week just like you all came around on the gold iphone

socki (s1ocki), Saturday, 21 September 2013 17:09 (ten years ago) link

i didn't

markers, Saturday, 21 September 2013 17:14 (ten years ago) link

i mean, i wouldn't buy it

markers, Saturday, 21 September 2013 17:14 (ten years ago) link

unless i had to

markers, Saturday, 21 September 2013 17:14 (ten years ago) link

you have to

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 September 2013 17:15 (ten years ago) link

i guess that's that then

markers, Saturday, 21 September 2013 17:19 (ten years ago) link

sorry you have to buy a gold iphone :/

call all destroyer, Saturday, 21 September 2013 17:21 (ten years ago) link

nothing we can do about it

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 September 2013 17:21 (ten years ago) link

http://tysiphonehelp.com/storage/post-images/tim%20cook.png

markers, Saturday, 21 September 2013 17:31 (ten years ago) link

Is the power button click sound more cavernous reverb?
Or i hear thing?

Philip Nunez, Saturday, 21 September 2013 18:11 (ten years ago) link

hahaha yeah it's reverb city

call all destroyer, Saturday, 21 September 2013 18:29 (ten years ago) link

my guess once people develop a mental image on a quasi subconscious level of ios as a 3d space these effects will improve usability, tho ur a tech dude who im sure is really good at using such things already so maybe it doesnt matter to you, but i think its super clever and subtle, lol everyone talking abt it being flat

― lag∞n, Sunday, 22 September 2013 00:05 (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the complaints i'm hearing most are from people who are not tech minded at all. 'er indoors (only one example) cracked it because her ipad was suddenly doing some movement thing that she couldn't describe, but that had made her feel nauseous; and she had attributed her discomfort to the ~whole~ of ios 7 ('i really don't like that update you put on my ipad'). she never ever mentions her ipad, and she brought this up over dinner when we weren't even talking about ipads.

when i first noticed my phone springboard jiggling (the icon grid in relation to the screen, not the wallpaper in relation to the icon grid), i didn't even realise it was the parallax effect, and very genuinely thought i'd had too many tim tams that morning. it wasn't a subtle and pleasing effect, it was an aberrant jiggle that happened when i was barely moving the phone. it's only because i took comparative screenshots that i know the icons were moving. most users won't even know to do that much.

but eh, you're probably right in users just getting used to it.

obi wankin' obi (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 21 September 2013 21:16 (ten years ago) link

what's the point of any graphical anything on a phone? to make it look and feel nicer. what, you want a command line interface?

installing an ssh client on my phone so i could remote login to my good ole unix box was the most delightful thing to ever happen to the phone

j., Saturday, 21 September 2013 21:30 (ten years ago) link

otm

i too went to college (silby), Saturday, 21 September 2013 21:34 (ten years ago) link

you people are savages

beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Saturday, 21 September 2013 21:55 (ten years ago) link

Oh, nice.

They also reworked Bluetooth stuff like crazy. Devices that accept notifications can now get every Notification Center update.

beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Saturday, 21 September 2013 22:51 (ten years ago) link

Probably will be most visible in that car integration stuff they're pushing, but stuff like Pebble watches work with it.

beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Saturday, 21 September 2013 22:52 (ten years ago) link

Whoa, huge, huge improvement in battery life on iOS 7.

At 74% after 15 hours of more frequent use than typical, including a bunch of GPS. It had been going down to ~40% by afternoon on a work day w/ far less use.

disgruntled punter (Je55e), Sunday, 22 September 2013 03:52 (ten years ago) link

dark art, battery life

beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Sunday, 22 September 2013 04:03 (ten years ago) link


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