Bad Religion: C or D?

I played the crap out of some Suffer as a youngin'. I also had No Control and Against the Grain, which I liked, but not as much.

They're lyrics are pretty funny.

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I love the way they include at least one difficult word in the lyrics of every song :-)

http://revolution.3-cities.com/~jadams/brdictionary.htm

Living in style:

Epitaph Records owner and Bad Religion guitarist Brett Gurewitz has listed his Hollywood Hills home for sale at $2,795,000.

The four-bedroom, 4 1/2 bathroom home was built in 1923. The three-story Spanish-style house is hidden from the street by a long, gated driveway, has 3,429 square feet and sits on more than a half-acre. There are views of downtown from the master bedroom suite and the high-ceiling living room has a fireplace. The bathrooms and kitchen have been remodeled, and the kitchen features Viking appliances. There is an outdoor gym, a saltwater pool and spa, a waterfall and an outdoor dining pavilion.

I like how the article only addresses the post 2000 Bad Religion albums.

They're saving up for a twenty-four page feature on Into the Unknown.

Now that would be a lock for my favorite music writing of the year.

Happy 30th birthday, Bad Religion!

(they're giving away a free live album to mailing list subscribers, to be recorded this spring - next album due in the Fall as well) -> http://www.badreligion.com

Been curious about Into the Unknown for some time now; should prob'ly start looking online

it's pretty good

It is pretty good! I have a soft spot for these guys. the first punk band I was really into when I was fifteen or so.

Wow, I started this thread a long time ago. Needless to say, they were my favorite band from '97 to '00. That probably doesn't say much about my musical tastes, but I still will throw on Suffer/No Control/Against the Grain/Stranger Than Fiction and enjoy the hell out of it.

hoped this revive would be to tell me Greg Graffin signed up to Chatroulette :/

I've never given them much of a thought since I was in the US in 1994 at age 13 and met some kids who were really into them, but I went to see them tonight and they were really great. I went with an open mind, pretty much without preconception at all beyond 'long-running US punk band' and enjoyed it immensely. They looked and sounded amazing for 30 years in the game as well.

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I will keep my eyes peeled for some albums on the cheap.

one of my fav bands, can't wait for their new one.

New one is due out at the end of this month! who here is getting it on release date (or earlier)?

Did everyone else think New Maps of Hell was great? I still think Process of Belief has been their best album since Mr. Brett rejoined the band.

Back in about '93-'95 I absolutely loved this band. I don't think I've "loved" any album that has been released since, but I always "like" them to varying degrees. You are correct about Process being the best of this era of Bad Religion. I'm sure I'll pick the new one up on release date and I'll listen to it a couple times, enjoying it well enough each, then it'll sit back on the shelf next to all the other post-1996 albums that I never spend enough time with. Isn't meant as a knock on the band, just rarely find myself in the mood to listen to them, and when I do, its the stuff from the late 80s/early 90s. My 16 year-old self would be disappointed.

No Control is my overall favorite.

From age 12 to 16 or so Bad Religion was my favorite band and I even have a place in my heart for No Substance and The New America. With the vocals it's not all that surprising that many of us tween/teen BR fans were then turned onto the Beach Boys...I have had more than a couple conversations on Beach Boys forums veer into Bad Religion territory.

The first few tracks on New Maps of Hell are about as good as anything they have ever done, or at least it felt that way after so many years of midtempo sludge. It was such a pleasant surprise to hear them play quick and dirty again. Hopefully the new one has more sub-2-minute tracks.

That said I re-listened to the whole discography at work a while back and some of the lyrics are really stupid. They were super deep at age 14 though!

no idea what to make of this expression at 1:19 but it needs to be gif'd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_Ft7LVCmDI

count me too among the 12-16 year old BR super fans. favorite was always a toss up between no control and ATG, although later years I would allow for the challops of naming recipe for hate as my favorite. nowadays I just might say into the unknown to fuck with people.

that said, I have absolutely no desire to listen to any of the new albums after the new america/process of belief

oh yeah that whole video is like pick a moment and gif his face.

the only Bad Religion I outright hate (besides Into the Unknown) is No Substance (aptly named) and The New America.

I even have a place in my heart for No Substance and The New America

The latter is one of my favorites, but I can't see how anyone would like anything about No Substance.

Granted, The New America pitters out towards its end, but that opening batch of songs is unfuckwithable imo.

I only like YOu've Got a Chance and Don't Sell Me Short

Rundgren's production was a pile of shit IMO. too shimmering, I mean they always have 'good' production but it didn't have the Bad Religion sound, there was too much polish.

Points taken off of new America because of the I Love My Computer song.

I was huge into these guys around Suffer/No Control era. Loved everything that came before (including my Into the Unknown LP). Liked Against the Grain pretty well. Recently bought Generator and still not impressed. Anything else post-Generator really worth a listen if ATG was the last stand for me?

No matter what, I will always rep for this band. Also curious if they're worth seeing live in 2010 and beyond. I've never seen them.

well, Generator is an anomaly I think -- I really think it's a mediocre album. It's kind of in the 'older' BR style, but with less catchy hooks and weaker writing.

Post-Generator is definitely more streamlined and favoring poppier choruses, but is still catchy and energetic. Stranger Than Fiction and Recipe for Hate were definitely more mainstream and less punky, but both are solid albums (the latter is the better, I think, and really displays a knack for the folksy melodies they were famous for). The Grey Race was a bit more aggressive, but didn't feature Mr. Brett, so it alienated many. It's one of my favorites of the latter era though.

No Substance and The New America are bland to me. However, Process of Belief is a nice blend of new and old, and is the best IMO of their newer era albums. The first three songs are just balls to the wall. Empire Strikes First and New Maps of Hell are solid, but essentially more of the same formula, so they're not as good. You can't really go wrong though. I love em all and greatly await the new one.

Generator and No Substance are my least favorite BR albums of the post-Suffer era.

xpost also they still bring it live. they vary their setlist nightly, and no older songs are off limit at all. that's the joy of being a three chord punk band -- easier to have more material on the ready.

I agree on Process of Belief. If you're going to get ONE album that was released post-ATG, get that one. xp

xpost I really think the title track and Atomic Garden are the only songs I love off of Generator.

I mean, fucking "Sorrow" man...it doesn't get much better than that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7Hb4bxF12E

Though No Control has grown to become my BR-album of choice, it was Generator that actually got me hooked to the band, so that's why it still remains one of my favorites, and I also have a place in my heart for The Grey Race, which was very poppy and the first five songs might be one of their best runs of songs on album.

I've seen them live in july in Amsterdam. They were great that night. Met some old punk-friends from years ago. Good times.

All Ages will always be my go-to BR album but No Control is probably their best proper release. Zero filler and more mature and developed than Suffer. Against the Grain also has an argument but the incipient tone-deafness of their bad '90s tracks is there even if their preaching is effective.

re: No Substance, I like Hear It, Shades of Truth, the title track, Sowing the Seeds of Utopia, Victims of the Revolution, Strange Denial, and especially In So Many Ways. That stretch in the middle of the album is pretty abominable though. Voracious March of Godliness...what were they thinking.

And huge OTM to Sorrow. That track is awesome.

I have a found spot for Generator, and the Gray Race because two the songs were featured in Crazy Taxi

This thread is really fucking with my head. I was 21 years old when I started it. For some reason that is freaking me out.

so you're my age then. ditto :/

Just opening this and put it in. I LOVE the opening track. off to a very good start with a burst of energy.

Dissent of Man, that is

streaming here. http://www.exclaim.ca/articles/generalarticlesynopsfullart.aspx?csid1=115&csid2=844&fid1=49280

Greg is singing in a higher register than I expected (a good thing).

gonna take a few listens on this one. first reaction is that the songwriting isn't as tight as it was on the last few releases. it's definitely a slower album, which isn't inherently a bad thing, but it's not catching my ear the same way the other post-Brett reunion albums did. It may take me another few listens.

yeah #4 and #7 are pretty weak so far.

I don't think this one's gonna make my classic BR list. I'm still seeing them at the end of the month though as they always put on great shows.

second listen is much kinder to this album. It just ends so meekly compared to the way it begins. Ultimately, I can say I do enjoy this one, even love spots of it, but it definitely falls short of the last few efforts.

It really goes to prove that the 'formula' they've etched isn't as effortless as they made it seem, as we took for granted.

I'll be seeing them on 10/30, can't wait to see what the setlist is like.

Holy shit! The band is selling a 15-LP vinyl box set to celebrate their 30th anniversary. Most notable inclusion? The first new pressing of Into the Unknown since 1983. I'm almost considering dropping the $200 for this.

Just saw them tonight in Philly... In a friggin' opera house.

Punk rock in an opera house... pic.twitter.com/ISRie7cGNy

— Brian O'Neill (@NYC__Native) November 8, 2021

Had a great time, amazing that I first saw them 30 years ago and got to take my son.

It's @badreligion! pic.twitter.com/T3koZAtr48

— Brian O'Neill (@NYC__Native) November 8, 2021

Very solid set list, played one or two songs from like ten albums, giving it a "greatest hits" feel but also brought out some deeper cuts as well.

suffer -> no control -> against the grain

thats a special run. i listen to the latter two quite often really.

Glad you got to see the show! 21 year-old me is very, very disappointed in myself for not seeing a Bad Religion/Alkaline Trio joint tour. But, if only it would have been a few months from now...

the live version of infected is way better than the album version. just watched this at 1.2 speed and it became one of their best songs lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S_lAB2WpTE

I’m 90% sure I saw BR at Warped Tour ‘98.