S & D: Sly & Robbie

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Guy Cuevas track is A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

jaxon, Monday, 7 July 2008 18:15 (fifteen years ago) link

pulled out language barrier to see if i was ready for it after disliking it for a few years. it's rad!

andrew m., Monday, 7 July 2008 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Blackwood Dub!!

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 2 April 2012 10:32 (twelve years ago) link

four years pass...

great interview:
http://www.thetrapset.net/086-sly-dunbar-sly-robbie-grace-jones-peter-tosh-the-rolling-stones-bob-dylan/

cool to hear him talk about making beats on an mpc and producing 'Murder She Wrote' after his daughter picked that one out of a bunch he made that day.

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 16:39 (seven years ago) link

i really wish they would remaster/reissue an expanded edition of rhythm killers ..

mark e, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 17:06 (seven years ago) link

I love Rhythm Killers too, but were there other tracks from those sessions? Discogs indicates the 12" singles had:

Fire 12"
Fire 6:37
Ticket To Ride 5:54
Miles (Black Satin) 7:20

Fire/Boops (Here To Go) 12"
Fire 10:45
Boops (Here To Go)
Fire (Instrumental) 11:00
Boops (Instrumental)

Yes We Can Can 12"
Yes We Can Can 3:50
No Name On The Bullet 6:03

Two covers, two instrumentals, and the mysterious sounding "No Name..."

gesticulating Pez dispenser (Sanpaku), Thursday, 1 September 2016 03:56 (seven years ago) link

... which was pulled off Language Barrier.

gesticulating Pez dispenser (Sanpaku), Thursday, 1 September 2016 03:57 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

Anyone else enjoying this new thing with Nils Petter Molvaer and Vladislav Delay? Had the potential to be an interesting mess but it's more successful than that, I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwuF-L19e-U

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Thursday, 21 June 2018 11:24 (five years ago) link

Yeah, reading the description I thought it would be all over the shop, but I really like it!

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Friday, 22 June 2018 02:34 (five years ago) link

oh shit "how long" sounds great!

i want to get cancer (map), Friday, 22 June 2018 02:42 (five years ago) link

three years pass...

Ah man, Robbie has passed.

https://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/entertainment/20211208/robbie-shakespeare-sly-and-robbie-fame-has-died

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 21:03 (two years ago) link

Oh no, RIP Robbie, such a peerless catalog

rob, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 21:18 (two years ago) link

Talk about a guy that probably has no idea how many records he appears on ...

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 21:27 (two years ago) link

:(
bongRIP

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 21:28 (two years ago) link

absolute legend.
i probably have a LOT of stuff with him hidden in the credits (often unlisted).
and, as i have said elsewhere ..
i would love love love a 2cd remaster/expanded editions of the language barrier/rhythm killers albums.
as it is, of his non reggae stuff, nothing beats the 2cd comp of the Grace Jones/Compass Point sessions.

https://www.discogs.com/release/7017707-Grace-Jones-Private-Life-The-Compass-Point-Sessions

mark e, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 21:38 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlTjAq8hOvM

tvod+ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 22:23 (two years ago) link

Ride on, riddim king. Listening to Black Uhuru's Showcase album.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 22:26 (two years ago) link

wikipedia says "He died following kidney surgery in Florida, in December 2021, at the age of 68". That's no age at all. RIP bassmaster

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agLUPSU41lU

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 23:18 (two years ago) link

also best bassline ever or what?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMpACxYoPEM

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 23:24 (two years ago) link

Love this one - this is the original Jamaican mix without the other overdubs so Robbie's bass comes in clearer, thicker and warmer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBRMz_QV8Kg

birdistheword, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 23:27 (two years ago) link

Anyone ever see this? Pretty good, actually.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLUXWTpW40U

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 23:37 (two years ago) link

Isn’t it Family Man on “Concrete Jungle”?

tvod+ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 23:48 (two years ago) link

Nope. Shakespeare plays on that ONE track. Barrett takes the rest.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 23:56 (two years ago) link

(on Catch a Fire that is)

birdistheword, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 23:56 (two years ago) link

Ah, okay, was wondering if it was something like that.

tvod+ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 9 December 2021 00:02 (two years ago) link

fuck! i reckon he plays on more music i own than almost anyone who has ever lived.

stirmonster, Thursday, 9 December 2021 00:02 (two years ago) link

Enjoyed rewatching the Rock School clip after all these years, but seem to recall a bit with Robbie talking about right hand placement “tone gettin’ heavier….tone gettin’ lighter” that I didn’t see there.

tvod+ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 9 December 2021 00:04 (two years ago) link

oh wow I had the Rock School book as a kid

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 December 2021 00:06 (two years ago) link

I think I still may have it.

This guy has a discussion and links to the whole episode. http://marcoonthebass.blogspot.com/2010/05/bbc-rock-school-80s-tv-series-teaches.html?m=1

tvod+ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 9 December 2021 00:09 (two years ago) link

damn we lost scratch perry and robbie shakespeare in one year, that's too much

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Thursday, 9 December 2021 00:26 (two years ago) link

U Roy and Bunny Wailer too ;_;

rob, Thursday, 9 December 2021 00:38 (two years ago) link

Astro too.

stirmonster, Thursday, 9 December 2021 00:43 (two years ago) link

shit that was all this year??

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Thursday, 9 December 2021 00:54 (two years ago) link

Hell we lost Toots to COVID last September too. It's been a brutal 15 months!

birdistheword, Thursday, 9 December 2021 01:58 (two years ago) link

also best bassline ever or what?

yes, it's a good candidate! I think I knew Sly & Robbie produced that but I didn't know Robbie also played that fantastic bassline

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 9 December 2021 09:52 (two years ago) link

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^ mark knopfler getting a chance to play with one of the greats

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Thursday, 9 December 2021 13:12 (two years ago) link

lets try that again:

https://i.ibb.co/F3G9Yrw/Capture.jpg

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Thursday, 9 December 2021 13:16 (two years ago) link

oh man.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 9 December 2021 14:46 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfMmG8QRZWk

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 9 December 2021 14:52 (two years ago) link

Long ago in the 80s I saw Sly & Robbie backing Black Uhuru live and they were magnificent. RIP Robbie

curmudgeon, Thursday, 9 December 2021 17:19 (two years ago) link

Best rhythm section ever? RIP big man.

Of the later stuff, I liked the collaboration with Eivind Aarset and Vladislav Delay:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctdeiieow40

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 9 December 2021 17:39 (two years ago) link

Talk about a guy that probably has no idea how many records he appears on ...

― Josh in Chicago,

from a Wrongtom tweet : "True story. Robbie was invited into the Sanctuary/Trojan archives in an effort to identify tracks he played on, and even he wasn't sure"

mark e, Thursday, 9 December 2021 17:48 (two years ago) link

xpost - chinaski that's a great album, discovered it randomly on spotify this year

they recenetly released a dub mix of "Jokerman" by Dylan (posted in the Infidels thread but wanted to post here too) kinda cool, really emphasizes Sly & Robbie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmrrzLoO-UQ

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 December 2021 17:59 (two years ago) link

Wow, Rhythm Killers has an enormous Wikipedia entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhythm_Killers

I enjoyed … Presents Taxi last night.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 9 December 2021 18:23 (two years ago) link

Long ago in the 80s I saw Sly & Robbie backing Black Uhuru live and they were magnificent.

i saw them with black uhuru too and then at the start of the millenium with grace jones. blessed to have had those experiences.

stirmonster, Thursday, 9 December 2021 18:28 (two years ago) link

I had Rhythm Killers and its predecessor Language Barrier (which includes a remake of Miles Davis's "Black Satin" from On the Corner!) on cassette in high school and listened to them all the time. Love those records.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 9 December 2021 18:55 (two years ago) link

I had Rhythm Killers and its predecessor Language Barrier (which includes a remake of Miles Davis's "Black Satin" from On the Corner!) on cassette in high school and listened to them all the time. Love those records.

― but also fuck you (unperson),

same.
hence i would love to have expanded 2cd editions of each album.
can you imagine the extras, and how fantastic they could be.

mark e, Thursday, 9 December 2021 19:00 (two years ago) link

randomly going through sly & robbie credits on discogs and it's seriously doing my wants list no favours.

wish this one was on youtube, looks incredible:
https://www.discogs.com/release/3229693-Derrick-Harriott-Acid-Rock

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Thursday, 9 December 2021 20:14 (two years ago) link

only track that is uploaded is pretty sick:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o90cfUmUheo

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Thursday, 9 December 2021 20:15 (two years ago) link

also i had no idea they made a track with smokie(!). it's okay?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk8gpawLRQQ

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Thursday, 9 December 2021 20:16 (two years ago) link

Come to think of it, who sings "Mellow Mood" on the album?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 11 December 2021 19:46 (two years ago) link

I just looked and can’t find a single thing anywhere. The credits list Shider, Mudbone Cooper, the Jungle Brothers, Shabba Ranks, and the Last Poets guy on vocals. It’s pretty clearly none of them (or the woman who’s credited w bgd vocals). I’d say somebody like Bim Sherman but they don’t appear to have ever worked together.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 12 December 2021 13:57 (two years ago) link

Bernard Fowler sang on a million Laswell things in the '80s and '90s. I interviewed him once and he said Laswell's assistant used to call and say, "We're going into the studio on Tuesday" and he'd show up and it'd be a Herbie Hancock session or Yoko Ono or whoever, and he'd just sing whatever they put in front of him. It could be him.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 12 December 2021 14:15 (two years ago) link

Ooh Fowler is a good call. It could totally be him.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 12 December 2021 14:19 (two years ago) link

Tune in question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkSZraRWiOM

Here is Fowler singing w S&R a few years earlier on Language Barrier:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP2ssi7FQBU

And on Rhythm Killers right after that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfyXQjQLpeQ

I kept thinking it must be some lovers rock crooner but as I think about it, Fowler is as likely as anyone given his ability to sing almost anything and his work with them to date. It’s just weird he wouldn’t be credited.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 12 December 2021 17:24 (two years ago) link


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