DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived post-Murdoch era

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'Arm the unemployed' will only give them ideas about compulsory conscription for NEETS aged 18-24.

aldi young dudes (suzy), Monday, 30 September 2013 12:18 (ten years ago) link

Also any decent smartarse wanting to feed the poor in Westminster after this measure is implemented, pay them 1p when handing over their Hare Krishna/stale Pret meal, and watch a bunch of rich assholes blow a gasket. They're managing to make Shirley Porter look like a nice lady.

aldi young dudes (suzy), Monday, 30 September 2013 12:23 (ten years ago) link

A new Dickens will rise and condemn them all

they'll be too busy watching downton abbey to notice

Holy Shirt! (stevie), Monday, 30 September 2013 12:23 (ten years ago) link

'Arm the unemployed' will only give them ideas about compulsory conscription for NEETS aged 18-24.

god yes, this is too true

i'll be your mraz (NickB), Monday, 30 September 2013 12:42 (ten years ago) link

If you look at the date on that Mirror piece about Westminster Council and soup runs, the story is from March 2011; the council subsequently did a U-turn: http://www.theguardian.com/society/2011/nov/02/westminster-council-homeless-soup

So it is.

Strange, I've heard people talking about it this past day or so, including my son - who has no interest whatsoever in the news.

Are you a horse? (onimo), Monday, 30 September 2013 12:53 (ten years ago) link

look:
https://twitter.com/search?q=westminster%20homeless&src=typd&f=realtime

Frequent references to it all weekend, presumably *something* happened to resurrect the story?

Are you a horse? (onimo), Monday, 30 September 2013 12:55 (ten years ago) link

Not necessarily – old things sometimes just resurface and snowball on social media.

Alba, Monday, 30 September 2013 12:57 (ten years ago) link

Hmm, Tory Conference on, yeah?

Mark G, Monday, 30 September 2013 12:59 (ten years ago) link

Housing benefit and jobseeker's allowance will be denied to people under the age of 25 if the Tories win the next general election as part of a "bold" move to prepare school-leavers for a tougher economic world, David Cameron has said.

jesus wtf

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/oct/02/tory-housing-benefit-under-25-david-cameron-tory-conference

Luigi Nono, le petit robot (seandalai), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:32 (ten years ago) link

"earning or learning" when there are no jobs and universities cost 9k a year

lex pretend, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:40 (ten years ago) link

also that lil scheme they have for the unemployed is BASICALLY community service. this fucking government!

lex pretend, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:40 (ten years ago) link

Bring it on, the viler they get, the more people will begin to recognise the fact, I reckons

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:58 (ten years ago) link

i reckon not, but at least when they get what they want they might stop moaning

anyway, forcing everybody into 10 years of FE shd do loads to raise these "standards" they keep wanking on about

how do i shot cwmbran? (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 17:10 (ten years ago) link

Don't see this as a vote winner tbh

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 17:14 (ten years ago) link

as ever, it depends whose votes they're trying to win

how do i shot cwmbran? (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 17:15 (ten years ago) link

but it's too early for chasing votes i suspect, this is just mind games

how do i shot cwmbran? (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link

Jon Snow ripping the shit out of some SPAD spod on C4 news just now.

aldi young dudes (suzy), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 18:17 (ten years ago) link

Matthew Hancock. Wiki page has this delight

In January 2013, he was accused of dishonesty by Daybreak presenter Matt Barbet after claiming he had been excluded from a discussion about apprentices after turning up "just 30 seconds late."[11] Barbet said Hancock knew he was "much more than a minute late" and he should have arrived half an hour before to prepare for the interview. His opponent expressed surprise that "a minister whose Government berates ‘shirkers’ couldn’t be bothered to get out of bed to defend his own policy."[11]

gyac, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 18:18 (ten years ago) link

Jon Snow asking Cameron about his love of Breaking Bad on last night's C4 News was horribly cringey. Dave came out with some bollocks about enjoying it because it's so different to his everyday life. Of course - can't imagine Cameron would find anything to identify with in a show about an amoral monster who puts profits above all else and destroys countless lives in the process.

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 18:29 (ten years ago) link

OTM

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 18:30 (ten years ago) link

those evil fucking tory bastards

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 18:31 (ten years ago) link

hoo boy we seem to have reached the point where food banks are too generous now

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/conservative-mp-paul-maynard-food-6124177

Emergency food parcels should not be given to people – because they could get too reliant on handouts, a Tory MP has said.

Paul Maynard, who works for Minister of State Oliver Letwin, said people could start going to food banks out of habit rather than helping themselves.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 18:54 (ten years ago) link

they don't want them to have benefits, they don't want them to have charity, fucking hell make your minds up

You don’t get that at your local UK Garage club (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 18:55 (ten years ago) link

They just want them to starve and die, obvs

ineloquentwow (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 19:42 (ten years ago) link

yep

Earn or burn.

Alba, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 22:42 (ten years ago) link

"Sanya-Jeet Thandi, a 20-year-old LSE student living in Holborn who joined UKIP when she was a sixth-former and was described at the party’s last national conference as future leadership material"

She was on Ch4 news in the week. I've never heard anyone more posh and clueless.

She was on again last night - possibly even more posh and clueless this time round - alongside a 40 year old man who was representing young ethnic minority voters

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 October 2013 08:10 (ten years ago) link

She at least has youth as an excuse I suppose. Her Twitter backdrop is a faded picture of Gandhi with 'DISOBEY' underneath. Not sure she's really asked the rest of her party of their opinion on that one.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 October 2013 08:34 (ten years ago) link

she means disobey gandhi i think

Victims’ tears deter rodent paedophiles (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 October 2013 08:35 (ten years ago) link

You get a lot of hardcore free-marketeers who are clueless about everything other than Hayek at the LSE.

Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Thursday, 3 October 2013 08:57 (ten years ago) link

LSE students are either well meaning Sociology/Development Studies/IR types, or dead-eyed capitalists in my experience.

Neil S, Thursday, 3 October 2013 09:06 (ten years ago) link

or yeah what you said!

Neil S, Thursday, 3 October 2013 09:06 (ten years ago) link

In Canada you have people going to food banks every week and it can become a habit

Even with nutcase Harper still in charge, Britain could do with being a lot more like Canada.

Shit, about to get real, now hits fan:


Ed Miliband MP, Leader of the Labour Party, has written to Lord Rothermere, the proprietor of the Daily Mail and the Mail on Sunday newspapers:

Dear Lord Rothermere,

Yesterday I spoke at a memorial event held at Guy’s Hospital in London for my uncle, Professor Harry Keen, a distinguished doctor who died earlier this year. It was an event in a room on the 29th floor of Guy’s Hospital which was attended only by family members, close friends and colleagues.

I was told by one of my relatives late yesterday evening that a reporter from the Mail on Sunday had found her way into the event uninvited. I also discovered that, once there, she approached members of my family seeking comments on the controversy over the Daily Mail’s description of my late father as someone who “hated Britain”.

My wider family, who are not in public life, feel understandably appalled and shocked that this can have happened.

The Editor of the Mail on Sunday has since confirmed to my office that a journalist from his newspaper did indeed attend the memorial uninvited with the intention of seeking information for publication this weekend.

Sending a reporter to my late uncle’s memorial crosses a line of common decency. I believe it a symptom of the culture and practices of both the Daily Mail and the Mail on Sunday.

There are many decent people working at those newspapers and I know that many of them will be disgusted by this latest episode. But they will also recognise that what has happened to my family has happened to many others.

I believe no purpose would be served by me complaining to the Press Complaints Commission because it is widely discredited.

Instead, I am writing to you as the owners of the Daily Mail and the Mail on Sunday because I believe it is long overdue that you reflect on the culture of your newspapers. You should conduct your own swift investigation into who was responsible at a senior level for this latest episode and also who is responsible for the culture and practices of these newspapers which jar so badly with the values of your readers.

There are bigger issues for the people of Britain in the midst of the worst cost of living crisis for a century than intrusion into the life of my family. But the reaction of many people to the Daily Mail’s attacks on my father this week demonstrates that the way your newspapers have behaved does not reflect the real character of our country.

It is now your responsibility to respond.

Ed Miliband

aldi young dudes (suzy), Thursday, 3 October 2013 10:55 (ten years ago) link

Jesus. Good on Milliband. This could be the making of him.

Holy Shirt! (stevie), Thursday, 3 October 2013 11:09 (ten years ago) link

Yeah that's stiffer stuff than i ever figured out of him.

Victims’ tears deter rodent paedophiles (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 October 2013 11:13 (ten years ago) link

too soon, darragh

^ sarcasm (ken c), Thursday, 3 October 2013 11:19 (ten years ago) link

The Mail shoot themselves in the foot yet again if they're trying to resist press reform.

i'll be your mraz (NickB), Thursday, 3 October 2013 11:19 (ten years ago) link

Campbell might be right about Dacre "losing the plot" after all

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 October 2013 11:19 (ten years ago) link

Public denunciations, spies at private memorial service - only one of these parties is acting like they're operating in a totalitarian regime and it isn't Ed Miliband.

i'll be your mraz (NickB), Thursday, 3 October 2013 11:22 (ten years ago) link

to be fair the mail was just being robust, raucous and, by definition, will sometimes offend.

^ sarcasm (ken c), Thursday, 3 October 2013 11:22 (ten years ago) link

Jon Snow: My source at the Daily Mail tells me Rothermere is fuming: Has given Dacre a one year contract only: wants him out and Geordie Greig in!

https://twitter.com/jonsnowC4/status/385734239028645889

i'll be your mraz (NickB), Thursday, 3 October 2013 11:54 (ten years ago) link

A response to that

Tom Latchem ‏@theboylatch 1m
@jonsnowC4 He's been on 1-year rolling contract for a while, apparently, just extended by a year. And GG is ed of MoS who sent reporter.

gyac, Thursday, 3 October 2013 11:57 (ten years ago) link

So much for sauces. and saucers.

Mark G, Thursday, 3 October 2013 11:58 (ten years ago) link

Kinda hoped this was dying down, Little Ed had made his point and should avoid appearing to labour (lol) the point... but along come some stupid cunts from the Mail to give the story a shot in the arm! Hurrah!

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 October 2013 12:01 (ten years ago) link

Rothermere will be thinking of his investment as well as "what happens if Miliband gets in?" Geordie Grieg is about as establishment as they come but less rabid than Dacre. A Daily Mail under his stewardship would be no less right-wing but with some of the thundering replaced by puff pieces about Kensington socialites no one cares about.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 October 2013 12:35 (ten years ago) link

It would also become the Daily Boris within seconds.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 October 2013 12:36 (ten years ago) link

Grieg is the current MoS editor. This memorial thing happened on his watch, although he is saying he did not send the journo himself.

aldi young dudes (suzy), Thursday, 3 October 2013 12:40 (ten years ago) link


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