I've never actually seen any game-changingly bad performances on the show
lana del rey was for a second there
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 3 October 2013 15:34 (ten years ago) link
but that wasn't exactly a mixing issue per se
his deniro impersonation was one of the funniest jokes of the whole nite xposts
― ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Thursday, 3 October 2013 15:34 (ten years ago) link
there's a direct-to-netflix oral history doc on the greatest hits & misses of SNL musical guests just waiting to made
― ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Thursday, 3 October 2013 15:37 (ten years ago) link
ashlee simpson was famously bad on snl
― lag∞n, Thursday, 3 October 2013 15:38 (ten years ago) link
which iirc was both a performative and mixing issue, all the issues
― lag∞n, Thursday, 3 October 2013 15:39 (ten years ago) link
Which was worse for Ashlee Simpson's career? The SNL tape disaster, or actually singing live at the Orange Bowl?
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 October 2013 15:40 (ten years ago) link
I mean, this is...BRUTAL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5YPiBx9MJs
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 October 2013 15:41 (ten years ago) link
i feel bad for everybody on that stage/field who is not ashlee simpson
― crüt, Thursday, 3 October 2013 15:44 (ten years ago) link
haha wow
― lag∞n, Thursday, 3 October 2013 15:45 (ten years ago) link
she looks so proud of herself and then
live from new york's ok if you like saxophones
Actual, if I recall correctly, the first really bad sound red flag really came with TV on the Radio a couple of years back, and they were jam packed with horns.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 October 2013 15:45 (ten years ago) link
This came a few months after the SNL thing, and a big deal was made about her singing absolutely live. It was not the best idea.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 October 2013 15:46 (ten years ago) link
lol the giant anarchy symbols on the giant prop drum kits
― lag∞n, Thursday, 3 October 2013 15:46 (ten years ago) link
http://jakefogelnest.com/post/798738330
― ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Thursday, 3 October 2013 15:48 (ten years ago) link
when i visited SNL set as a teenager they emphasized how the studio was like built especially for acoustics and is somehow detached from the rest of the building idk the details but i remember being shocked at how impressed they were w/ their acoustics when generally they sound pretty terrible. i think they bragged about how bands loved to play SNL for that reason -- i'm sure bands love to play SNL but probably not bc it makes them sound better.
― Mordy , Thursday, 3 October 2013 16:31 (ten years ago) link
maybe it sounds good live
― lag∞n, Thursday, 3 October 2013 16:31 (ten years ago) link
broadcast sound and room sound are totally different things
― Hip Hop Hamlet (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 3 October 2013 16:59 (ten years ago) link
Sorry, yeah, I've deffo seen some bad performances on SNL, but none that I can recall were because of "a bad mix". I haven't seen the TVOTR one tho. Maybe I did! Saxes on the stairwell? Colin was in that one, too. I never really know what TVOTR are supposed to sound like, though, even with their records I'm like "are you sure? is that your final answer?" so who knows
― flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 3 October 2013 17:14 (ten years ago) link
interesting - i didn't realize that. i assumed if it sounded good live it would sound good on whatever expensive broadcasting hardware they must be using. or is the problem that they're not using high quality broadcasting equipment? you'd think they could afford it.
― Mordy , Thursday, 3 October 2013 17:14 (ten years ago) link
I would assume they have two totally separate mixes - one for the band/live audience and one for broadcast
― Hip Hop Hamlet (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 3 October 2013 17:15 (ten years ago) link
^^^
also, if they are broadcasting the room mix out live, that would explain why it's often super horrible
― smang culture (DJP), Thursday, 3 October 2013 17:18 (ten years ago) link
yep
― Hip Hop Hamlet (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 3 October 2013 17:20 (ten years ago) link
@ Mordy "expense" is the least of the issues. The mixer is strictly mixing for broadcast. There is one mix. The mixer is not even in the room, s/he is mixing in a separate room on monitors. There are just so many factors that could contribute to "bad mix", esp. if the mixer is confronted with too many channels.
In my experience the hardest thing about putting a Working Band on a studio stage with new faces at the desks is that the monitoring is completely different and most musicians don't know how to verbalize their needs. Every band that's big enough to appear on SNL will have a full-time monitor tech to ring out their wedges and get their vocals sounding good. And they'll have excited people in front of them to make them psychologically "not give a shit". Singers have gotten used to a particular environment and struggle in a new one. In my experience.
Ultimately tho I don't really care I don't watch SNL's musical performances for anything but research and/or lols
― flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 3 October 2013 17:22 (ten years ago) link
I do have big respect/awe for bands that really shine in the studio environment tho (Vampire Weekend)
― flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 3 October 2013 17:23 (ten years ago) link
goon tie can you confirm this rumor a musician friend told me: when appearing on a late nite show, for each "vocal mic" that is requested and set up, the band's appearance fees go up by like an additional $900 due to some union rules/regs?
so a band like ozomatli can rake in an extra $5k just for asking that each member have a vocal mic for a call and response part of the song they're performing
― ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Thursday, 3 October 2013 17:29 (ten years ago) link
sorry everyone for shitting up the snl thread i'm sure there's a better place to ask
If that is/was true, it might explain why for years on "Late Night" the "band" would often just be one or two principals playing with the house band (e.g., two Pixies, two members of Pere Ubu, Ray Davies without any other Kinks, etc.)
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 3 October 2013 17:42 (ten years ago) link
gr80 I can't confirm that, I've never heard that, but it wouldn't at all surprise me. Singers can be members of both AFM and ACTRA, and both unions are known for special dispensations for special ""skills"".
― flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 3 October 2013 17:51 (ten years ago) link
It's tough to be a Canadian in your thirties and not in(-to-) Arcade Fire in Toronto at least
lmao very true
Glad to hear it Stevie <3
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 4 October 2013 00:09 (ten years ago) link
Saturday Night Live @nbcsnl 2mWe're going to be LIVE later than usual tonight! 11:57p to be exact. Plan accordingly! #SNL
oh miley
― Mordy , Sunday, 6 October 2013 03:33 (ten years ago) link
miley sounds great
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 6 October 2013 04:34 (ten years ago) link
of all people
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 6 October 2013 04:35 (ten years ago) link
hillary sketch was pretty funny... nasim pedrad's ariana huffington is crazy good
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 6 October 2013 04:36 (ten years ago) link
This has been a pretty killer episode
― Bitch Fantastic (DJP), Sunday, 6 October 2013 05:10 (ten years ago) link
for a non actor i thought miley was exceptional
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 6 October 2013 05:13 (ten years ago) link
well i guess she is/was an actor but whatever
loved mornin' miami
― balls, Sunday, 6 October 2013 05:45 (ten years ago) link
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you've come a long way, Jordan S.
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 6 October 2013 06:01 (ten years ago) link
i don't know what that means, i was just referring to the conversation earlier this week about everyone sounding bad on SNL
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 6 October 2013 06:06 (ten years ago) link
big upping Taylor Swift records, calling Miley's acting exceptional, you've softened over the years. I think it's a positive obviously.
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 6 October 2013 06:16 (ten years ago) link
positive in which column?
― 6 Tuesdays on every Tuesday. This is called dumpy pants. (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 6 October 2013 06:25 (ten years ago) link
*updates xls*
― 6 Tuesdays on every Tuesday. This is called dumpy pants. (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 6 October 2013 06:26 (ten years ago) link
i thought miley sounded great! i like her on snl comedy-wise too. kinda hope she keeps that
dug her getup for 'wrecking ball' btw
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 October 2013 07:28 (ten years ago) link
she did sound great; imo pop singers shouldn't dance and sing unless they've gone through the Beyonce Boot Camp
― Bitch Fantastic (DJP), Sunday, 6 October 2013 13:00 (ten years ago) link
Poetry teacher character was brilliant. Bayer seemed to dominate this ep.
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 6 October 2013 15:54 (ten years ago) link
Set it to record, missed the last 20+ minutes because of its late start. Anything I should try to track down after the cheerleading sketch?
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 6 October 2013 16:25 (ten years ago) link
mornin miami, poetry class, and the kyle mooney thing were after so i'd say yes
― balls, Sunday, 6 October 2013 16:33 (ten years ago) link
this was mostly dire
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 6 October 2013 16:40 (ten years ago) link
interesting that bruce willis is hosting nxt week
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 6 October 2013 16:42 (ten years ago) link