Scott Walker. (RIP March 2019)

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yeah, i got mine on pre-release as well ..

but the fact remains, it is a little weird for a major label pressing to have been deleted so quickly.

could it have been that the cost of the sturdy box was too much for a bigger run ?

(kinda like the very heavy duty Roxy Music boxset .. )

mark e, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 13:46 (ten years ago) link

Well, the only other place I found had it for $69 plus postage, from a US based place, so hey.

It was one I was going to get, one of these days, but never got round to it.

Still, one of those boxes that had a CD price of "quite reasonable", and an LP box of "How Much!?"

Mark G, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 14:59 (ten years ago) link

.. and here it is!

Mind you, I wondered into HMV on that Tuesday (of the previous message), and there it was in the rack, £22 or thereabouts.

Mark G, Monday, 14 October 2013 09:26 (ten years ago) link

Was wondering if it might be available through HMV but they don't have mailorder set up on their site yet, or didn't appear to when i was panically looking last week on finding it had gone.
Had already posted a forlorn message about it being gone and how was a man supposed to live and face such times and live without somebody crooning existential angst in a winning baritone? On Facebook so hope somebody in my family doesn't read that and think I better get him that for Xmas then.
Cos in the middle of typing this message the doorbell went and I now have a copy sitting in my lap waiting to be ripped to my hard drive for ease in listening though my computer which is the music source for my living room.
also got a copy of the Pharaoh Sanders anthology 'You've got To Have Freedom' after mislaying my earlier copy some years ago. Bet that turns up as I spring-clean now.

Stevolende, Monday, 14 October 2013 11:08 (ten years ago) link

I am in the market for used copies of the previous round of remasters (the mid 2000s ones) if anyone just bought the box and wants to unload them for used prices, BTW. My Scott CDs are all the early 90s editions.

play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Monday, 14 October 2013 22:26 (ten years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Hints on the SW facebook page about some kind of live event soon to be announced in nyc. I'm hoping it's something like the tilting and drifting thing that was put on in the UK. Fuck, if it's even a ballet performance of And Who... I'll be there in a hot minute.

Pressgang Wolf (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 13 November 2013 17:55 (ten years ago) link

whoah! i'd go if it's just him shadow boxing with hanging meat slabs

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 13 November 2013 18:49 (ten years ago) link

http://www.lepoissonrouge.com/lpr_events/songs-from-montague-terrace-a-tribute-to-scott-walker-december-1st-2013/"> http://www.lepoissonrouge.com/lpr_events/songs-from-montague-terrace-a-tribute-to-scott-walker-december-1st-2013/

Tribute concert w/live strings, no Scott involvement so it won't be as good as tilting & drifting (which was great); it'll be streamed for those who can't make it.

dicktweeter perpetuo (wins), Friday, 15 November 2013 17:43 (ten years ago) link

I don't know enough of those artists. Do I really want to hear Adam Green sing Scott Walker????

dan selzer, Friday, 15 November 2013 18:07 (ten years ago) link

T&d was great cause it had trained singers doing semi-operatic settings of the songs but you also had to put up with losers like albarn trying to sing farmer in the city

dicktweeter perpetuo (wins), Friday, 15 November 2013 18:19 (ten years ago) link

Dang that's rather disappointing. Obv I knew there'd be no actual SW performance but something like tilting & drifting was my hope. Oh well.

Pressgang Wolf (Jon Lewis), Friday, 15 November 2013 20:48 (ten years ago) link

four months pass...

yessssssssss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXhD1dDSVj4

espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 20:29 (ten years ago) link

Finally got round to playing the box set! Told you I was saving it!

The girls love "Jackie" btw..

Mark G, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 21:54 (ten years ago) link

'How far have you got?'

Well, I liked 2 better than 1, and I'm halfway through 3 and liking it more than 2..

Mark G, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 21:57 (ten years ago) link

3 is the generally considered the best. I think there are songs on 2 and 4 as good as any on 3, maybe better, but 3 is the most consistently good and interesting

dan selzer, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 22:02 (ten years ago) link

nah, 4 is next-level

mattresslessness, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 22:06 (ten years ago) link

I always wondered why 4 didn't make the chart at all after 3 top ten albums and the fourth ".. Songs from the TV show" only just missing the top ten..

Now, I can sort of understand: three albums in one year? Something's gonna give!

Mark G, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 22:08 (ten years ago) link

the orchestrations and brel (and original songs) on 3 are all-time but he really comes into his own as a songwriter on 4 which sets it apart imo. xp

mattresslessness, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 22:12 (ten years ago) link

Just checked, I'm wrong: Four top ten albums, then totally off!

Mark G, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 22:27 (ten years ago) link

4 has "the seventh seal," right? that's a point not in its favor IMO.

espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 22:32 (ten years ago) link

I mean, I love the music, but the lyrics make want to hide in a corner.

espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 22:33 (ten years ago) link

I think he comes into his own as a songwriter w/ 3. actually, I think this is kind of unquestionable.

espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 22:34 (ten years ago) link

Side one
No. Title Writer(s) Length
1. "It's Raining Today" 4:02
2. "Copenhagen" 2:22
3. "Rosemary" 3:22
4. "Big Louise" 3:10
5. "We Came Through" 1:59
6. "Butterfly" 1:42
7. "Two Ragged Soldiers" 3:07
Side two
No. Title Writer(s) Length
8. "30 Century Man" 1:29
9. "Winter Night" 1:45
10. "Two Weeks Since You've Gone" 2:48
11. "Sons Of" Gérard Jouannest, Jacques Brel, Mort Shuman 3:45
12. "Funeral Tango" Jouannest, Brel, Shuman 2:56
13. "If You Go Away" Brel, Rod McKuen 4:57

espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 22:34 (ten years ago) link

i mean he almost--ALMOST--emerged fully formed on the first LP. see "such a small love," above, plus "always coming back to you."

this all makes more sense if you've heard the walker brothers LPs, which are all hit-and-miss but each features a few scott-penned songs that are pretty ambitious and great, at the least "promising."

espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 22:37 (ten years ago) link

4 was originally released under the engel name no?

every moser (wins), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 22:40 (ten years ago) link

yeah

espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 22:42 (ten years ago) link

i think it was only on the spine maybe? it was definitely packaged as some kind of mysterious Statement from the Artiste. he was nothing if not pretentious.

espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 22:43 (ten years ago) link

you're an ass

mattresslessness, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 22:44 (ten years ago) link

????

i meant it in a good way. scott walker is god.

espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 22:45 (ten years ago) link

maybe i should include more emoticons for the benefit of slow joes in the back row.

espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 22:46 (ten years ago) link

will try again:

i think it was only on the spine maybe? it was definitely packaged as some kind of mysterious Statement from the Artiste. he was nothing if not pretentious. ;) :) LOL LOVE HIM

espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 22:48 (ten years ago) link

God the track list on 3 makes me dizzy.

Myth or it didn't happen (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 22:49 (ten years ago) link

i, too, love them all and will probably love what i haven't heard yet. 4 is my favorite and i think it compares very favorably to 3. fin

mattresslessness, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 22:53 (ten years ago) link

yeah nobody is arguing that 4 isn't awesome. they are ALL awesome (meaning LPs 1-4). hell, I even like the last few tracks on Til the Band Comes In and listen to Stretch for pleasure.

espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 22:54 (ten years ago) link

sorry, i take it back

mattresslessness, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 22:55 (ten years ago) link

4 has "the seventh seal," right? that's a point not in its favor IMO.

― espring (amateurist), Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:32 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sod the lyrics, it's an amazing starting track to an amazing record. i still have trouble separating and also listening sequentially to the first three albums - they all seem very much part of the same work with strong songs and not so strong songs, but 4 is a different very separate work in my eyes.

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 22:56 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XprkIbphGf8

espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 22:59 (ten years ago) link

I usually find the Seventh Seal a bit too embarrassing to listen to. Just those opening lyrics are soooo on the nose. And the songs are great...but the arrangement is more conventional that 3, it's almost more genre in a way. I love it but I think it sounds more dated than 3. It trades the romance of much of the first 3 for something a bit more r&b/rock or something.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 23:39 (ten years ago) link

My Scott Walker playlist opens with Prologue/Little Things That Keep Us Together before going into selections from 1-4 chronologically.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 23:40 (ten years ago) link

i just listened to 3 all the way through. it's really great but i don't agree that 4 has aged. i find the first three a little bit over-flamboyant in places. guess you could say the same about some parts of 4 though, granted.

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 23:42 (ten years ago) link

Boy Child is the song on 4 that sounds like it would fit on 3.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 23:49 (ten years ago) link

It was originally released in late 1969 under his birth name, Noel Scott Engel (the name Walker did not appear on the original album sleeve)

sleepingsignal, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 23:53 (ten years ago) link

Selzer otm

Myth or it didn't happen (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 23:54 (ten years ago) link

Scott 4 reminds me of Bryter Layter for some reason. Is that strange?

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 23:57 (ten years ago) link

No not at all. Stott's way with the orchestra more overtly eerie tho.

Myth or it didn't happen (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 23:59 (ten years ago) link

boy child has some amazing grace notes in the string arrangement, hoo boy

espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 00:06 (ten years ago) link

makes me think of outer space

espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 00:06 (ten years ago) link

He's super-pretentious! Bt that's part of why I love him, I don't think he (or anyone, prob) is capable of fully achieving what he aims at, bt his attempts're wonderful. The Drift is one of the most powerful art experiences I've ever had

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 00:07 (ten years ago) link

yeah, you have to laugh (and so does SW, I think) when these euro-art dudes are slamming sides of beef to get just the right sound of human degradation or whatever. it's almost a parody of self-serious modern composition. but the results are completely awesome.

espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 00:08 (ten years ago) link

Just heard "30 Century Man" blimey, no wonder Julian Cope likes him, it sounds more like him than he does!

Mark G, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 20:35 (ten years ago) link


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