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my friends are opening the nic turner show here on halloween.

scott seward, Monday, 14 October 2013 14:21 (ten years ago) link

Can someone find out why all these old dudes can't be friends long enough to rake in some $$ together?

Untt (La Lechera), Monday, 14 October 2013 14:26 (ten years ago) link

Doesn't sound that bizarre to me, this sort of thing happens all the time with bands from Faust to Bucks Fizz.

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Monday, 14 October 2013 14:52 (ten years ago) link

now i'm imagining a band made up of half of Bucks Fizz and half of Faust.

scott seward, Monday, 14 October 2013 15:01 (ten years ago) link

Bucks Fauzt

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Monday, 14 October 2013 15:01 (ten years ago) link

I think this happened to Wishbone Ash and Christian Death too. When I saw them I'm sure there was 3 original members and some metal guys filling in.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 14 October 2013 15:06 (ten years ago) link

when i went and saw pretty things in philly years ago i think their manager played drums? something happened to their drummer. but that's a different kind of emergency.

scott seward, Monday, 14 October 2013 15:10 (ten years ago) link

they should just have dueling goblins. goblin opening up for goblin.

scott seward, Monday, 14 October 2013 15:11 (ten years ago) link

I like the idea of multiple permutations of a band simultaneously touring the US at all times under the same name. One is awesome and pumped and one is tired and weird and there's a third one who just robs you outright...

play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Monday, 14 October 2013 15:18 (ten years ago) link

Tangential to this thread but Robert's post has reminded me of a really weird dream I had the another night about a band called Fishbone Ash.

gotta lol geir (NickB), Monday, 14 October 2013 15:21 (ten years ago) link

xpost I think that's happened with the Vulgar Boatmen, two different sympatico versions of the same band. Oh, and the Aussie/US indie band Ashtray Boy has two editions as well, to circumvent travel costs.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 October 2013 15:41 (ten years ago) link

I think Legendary Pink Dots and King Crimson also had an agreed upon thing to have different versions of their band (?)

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 14 October 2013 15:52 (ten years ago) link

There are two versions of the (English) Beat in existence too, but it neatly breaks down into Dave Wakeling's lot that play in the US and Ranking Roger's band that do Europe.

gotta lol geir (NickB), Monday, 14 October 2013 16:02 (ten years ago) link

I'm still puzzled why they all can't get along and play in the same version of the same band.

Untt (La Lechera), Monday, 14 October 2013 16:06 (ten years ago) link

Not sure the two (English) Beats are allied. And there's definitely only one King Crimson, though there are bands around with ex members that play KC material. But there are plenty of feuding acts that share a catalog. Like, I dunno, Supertramp and the singer going around doing Supertramp stuff.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 October 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link

I'm still puzzled why they all can't get along and play in the same version of the same band.

Because they probably all fell out over money and don't trust each other, no doubt with good reason.

I heard that Simonetti's Goblin is all long leather coats and Cradle Of Filth guitars, I could be wrong. The other version with the original guitarist, bassist and drummer is the one that played in the UK a few years ago. I've got lost with it now, no idea which version is touring the US.

That's totally bizarre because it seems to be the same exact thing happening with the Hawkwind reunion (the Chicago show was postponed to March because it had caused Dave Brock so much stress induced illness?!) Nic Turner's Space Ritual Hawkwind Assembly is playing here in like a week too.

Didn't Brock lose the rights to the name in the US? Ah who knows, you get more drama with these old bands than when they were young and actually making worthwhile music.

Addison Doug (Matt #2), Monday, 14 October 2013 16:37 (ten years ago) link

I thought Projekcts was King Crimson split into different bands?

Claudio Simonetti, Massimo Morante and Maurizio Guarini were at the Glasgow, Scotland 2011 gig for sure. The Scotsman (of all places) has an interview with Simonetti from that time, including talk of the unstable lineup...
http://www.scotsman.com/news/interview-goblin-prog-rock-band-1-1494605

Looking for details on that gig, I see that they played the Phenomena theme, which I was not familiar with at the time and when I finally saw that film I didnt know I had heard it before; I wish I had known it before the gig because I love that tune. Interestingly, some of the performances got put on a Tenebre dvd.

I also recall that whoever was controlling the background screen made a terrible job of it, the clips kept stopping and showing a dvd menu behind the band.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 14 October 2013 19:55 (ten years ago) link

I've only heard Suspiria, Deep Red, Tenebre, Phenomena, Dawn Of The Dead, Roller and the Libra - Shock album (I think they did stuff for The Church and Terror At The Opera but I cant remember any of it).

Is there anything else as ambitious as Suspiria? Because that one seems totally different from the others, especially the range of sounds used.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 14 October 2013 20:02 (ten years ago) link

the soundtrack to the suspiria laserdisc is still to this day one of the most phenomenal things i've ever heard. sound/audio-wise. jaw-dropping sound.

scott seward, Monday, 14 October 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link

I've seen the film plenty of times but whenever I looked for the album it was always oddly expensive for something so big a classic. Does anyone know why you never see it in shops? I've seen quite a few of their other albums in stores but never Suspiria oddly.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 14 October 2013 21:16 (ten years ago) link

i have the dvd set that includes a compact disc of the soundtrack. you could probably find that online. anchor bay? i can't remember.

scott seward, Monday, 14 October 2013 21:27 (ten years ago) link

just a quick search and here's one for 25 bucks on ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Suspiria-DVD-2001-3-Disc-Set-Limited-Edition-out-of-print-dario-argento-/221295636350?pt=US_DVD_HD_DVD_Blu_ray&hash=item33863f6f7e

probably find one cheaper if you look.

scott seward, Monday, 14 October 2013 21:29 (ten years ago) link

I bought my latest version from eMusic, no idea if it's easily available in the physical. Before that I had the anthology DRG disc with a handful of tracks from each film.

play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Monday, 14 October 2013 21:36 (ten years ago) link

the anchor bay 3-disc set is well worth getting.

scott seward, Monday, 14 October 2013 21:42 (ten years ago) link

The rival Goblins should tour like the Gallagher brothers and have a Goblin 1 & a Goblin 2. They should also incorporate watermelon smashing into their live act.

goth drama is universal (latebloomer), Monday, 14 October 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link

skull smashing more like

wk, Monday, 14 October 2013 23:01 (ten years ago) link

there was a 6 cd box set out (in uk at least) just last christmas that had suspiria as one of the discs.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Awakening-Goblin/dp/B0094GMS24/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1381825579&sr=8-1&keywords=goblin

(has gone up a bit since i bought mine)

actually, single disc is £12

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Suspiria-Original-Soundtrack/dp/B003H3D2C0/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1381825662&sr=8-9&keywords=goblin

koogs, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 08:29 (ten years ago) link

Yes, I have noticed it becoming more affordable recently, I'll probably get it in a few days.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 10:14 (ten years ago) link

So this was finally addressed:

To avoid unpleasant misunderstanding we are sorry to announce that Claudio Simonetti, Bruno Previtali and Titta Tani will not be present in the line up of the next Goblin tour in the United States, it seemed right to inform all our fans.
This was an amazing and unrepeatable tour!!!

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 19 October 2013 23:14 (ten years ago) link

(The link itself might or might not work but it was up and saying that earlier today; post itself was from Wednesday.)

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 19 October 2013 23:15 (ten years ago) link

The "next" tour? Does that mean the leg with Zombi opening?

Non-Stop Erotic Calculus (bmus), Sunday, 20 October 2013 00:49 (ten years ago) link

Saw Goblin when they came thru Portland on Saturday. Great show. It was really endearing, they seemed to be so happy to be up there.

No real set surprises, they played most of Roller up front (although I didn't recognize a lot of it) and then dove into the segmented soundtrack parts towards the last half.

Profondo Rosso killed.

Non-Stop Erotic Calculus (bmus), Monday, 21 October 2013 21:10 (ten years ago) link

six months pass...

So is the non-Claudio version worth seeing? They are playing Worcester MA in July.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 1 May 2014 22:51 (ten years ago) link

I imagine they are much like the non-anybody anything bands, perfectly fine.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 May 2014 00:20 (ten years ago) link

But I think there are three other actual members in this band IIRC.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 2 May 2014 02:34 (ten years ago) link

They were great when they played in London a few years ago.

めんどくさい (Matt #2), Friday, 2 May 2014 08:33 (ten years ago) link

Looking at Claudio's Facebook page I think it actually may be his lineup on tour right now: https://m.facebook.com/claudiosimonettiII?fref=nf

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 2 May 2014 10:46 (ten years ago) link

four years pass...

Just got back from a screening of L'Inferno (1911) with accompaniment by Maurizio Guarini. I don't know anything about Goblin or their other soundtrack work, but the total effect was stunning.

Accattony! Accattoni! Accattoné! (j.lu), Sunday, 4 November 2018 04:26 (five years ago) link

this is an all-around awesome jam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHhpYE4Ap4I

love these guys

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 4 November 2018 12:05 (five years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Guarini is returning to AFI Silver to accompany L'Inferno (https://silver.afi.com/Browsing/Movies/Details/m-0100002202) and Nosferatu (https://silver.afi.com/Browsing/Movies/Details/m-0100000238).

Anne Hedonia (j.lu), Monday, 21 October 2019 01:19 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

For those who missed it on the obituaries thread, RIP Massimo Morante. The bandana king is no more!

https://pitchfork.com/news/massimo-morante-goblin-founder-and-guitarist-dead-at-70/

von mannequin lives (Matt #2), Friday, 24 June 2022 10:57 (one year ago) link

I was at this Goblin performance in Glasgow. As others have noted here, on the night they were really surprisingly loud and heavy - it was quite a smart and effective updating of their original sound. Really glad I went. RIP Massimo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ConNBa3HSIM

Ward Fowler, Friday, 24 June 2022 11:08 (one year ago) link


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