Ebay, Light Of My Life, Fire Of My Loins, My Sin, My Soul

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yeah i'm guessing they were things he had collected over time. doubt he stumbled upon all that at once. and definitely lots of stuff i would love to have.

scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 12:55 (ten years ago) link

thats a lotta psych...!
i'd love to an orig Savage Ressurection..

ian, Friday, 18 October 2013 17:19 (ten years ago) link

jeeesus I stopped counting at $15K

money, chicken and other DNA (sleeve), Friday, 18 October 2013 22:31 (ten years ago) link

http://www.ebay.com/sch/tomkellyarchives/m.html?item=321231094028&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562

really glad ebay started showing me thumbnails of adults only items sold by this guy (who also sells records.)

ian, Friday, 18 October 2013 23:16 (ten years ago) link

how many sophie tucker records would I have to buy for him to throw in a gratis "50+"?

a loving tribute to coworkers without personalities (los blue jeans), Saturday, 19 October 2013 16:54 (ten years ago) link

you should email him and ask.

ian, Saturday, 19 October 2013 20:56 (ten years ago) link

So I've decided on about 50 records to sell on ebay. I've spent today recording clips of some of the xian yacht rock folk dogshit that maybe I can get money for. I've graded and written descriptions of half of them. This is grueling work. I don't see how people make a living doing this.Would having in the description: "Featuring in the private press coffee table book 'Enjoy The Experience' be in bad form? I don't know how else to sell some of this christian crap.

JacobSanders, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 20:39 (ten years ago) link

Would having in the description: "Featuring in the private press coffee table book 'Enjoy The Experience' be in bad form?

no way, that's just straight up marketing. nothing wrong with it imo. (assuming the records you're talking about are actually in the book!)

dmr, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 20:45 (ten years ago) link

yeah I have a bunch of bad christian records with cool covers that are in the book. I guess the music has a "real people" vibe but it's unlistenable to my ears.

JacobSanders, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 20:48 (ten years ago) link

Tell you, I've decamped to Discogs' selling interface..

They have pics and tracklistings of most everything, whichever originating country the LP was pressed in, etc.

When you select the album to 'sell', they ask the condition and suggest a price for you.

Basically, how long it took to list one item on ebay (with pics and tracklisting), I could do 50 on Discogs.

For actual auctions of valuable stuff, i'd still use ebay though. But for 'buy-it-now', no.

Mark G, Friday, 25 October 2013 10:42 (ten years ago) link

agreed.

there's pretty much only a couple reasons to sell on ebay instead of discogs:

1. there's no listing for the item on discogs
2. it's a super rare item that hasn't had its "value" sorted already so you really need to auction it on ebay for max price/exposure
3. you have a dedicated list of many titles in the same genre/realm

moe handy, Friday, 25 October 2013 20:42 (ten years ago) link

re 3, potential buyers can click a category on your shop front and see all yr 'Christian Rock' eg on one page.

Mark G, Saturday, 26 October 2013 07:49 (ten years ago) link

yeah it's a shame you can't do lots on discogs

caek, Sunday, 27 October 2013 06:04 (ten years ago) link

Q: So both the cover and record are in excellent condition instead of the VG+ rating from Ebay? Oct-27-13
A: I use the word "excellent" as a descriptive term, not as a grade. I use the old Goldmine record grading, and there was no Excellent grade using Goldmine standards once upon a time. Excellent is an Ebay-derived grade. VG+ to me means very close to Near Mint. And something that is close to Near Mint is in excellent condition. Goldmine does consider Excellent to be comparable to VG+ now though: http://www.goldminemag.com/collector-resources/record-grading-101/2. I can't help but think of 78 rpm record grading when I see the grade E or E+ though. Anyway, by current Goldmine standards this record is either VG+ or Excellent. But I was not grading the record as excellent. Merely mentioning that it is in excellent shape. If you are uncomfortable with the word excellent in my description, feel free to change the word to "great" or "wonderful" in your head if it helps. Thanks for the question!

scott seward, Sunday, 27 October 2013 12:08 (ten years ago) link

lol

ian, Monday, 28 October 2013 00:17 (ten years ago) link

i actually had a guy really chew me out recently cuz a cover i graded as VG+ had a name written on the back. a small name. see, i don't know why, but i do consider ex to be seprarate from VG+. i dunno why. always have, even before i started collecting 78s.

i lost a lot of Pope's Arkansas Mountaineers 78s on ebay today. All three of their records in VG/VG+ condition - i.e. some wear, surface noise, maybe some distressed grooves. went for $92. i bid $91. they were at $35 til the last minute.

so, as a consolation, i am buying some french-canadian fiddle 78s from a friend of mine who lives up there. hurray.

ian, Monday, 28 October 2013 00:20 (ten years ago) link

Do you guy have countries you do not ship to or accept bids from?

JacobSanders, Monday, 28 October 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link

i dont -- i havent had any bad experiences yet. i mention in my description that i "may require insurance/registration to some countries," but i havent had to exercise that yet.

69, Monday, 28 October 2013 19:05 (ten years ago) link

i've had bad experiences shipping to italy and greece. i'll still do it, but i require insurance for any overseas order over $30 now.

ian, Monday, 28 October 2013 19:11 (ten years ago) link

Recently I sold a guy in sweden a rare record and when filling out the customs form I put down $115 as the value of the record. It was sent priority with everything else. But when the guy went to pick up the record, he had to pay $52 for a custom's tax! I didn't know about this, and dude wasn't happy with me. He said to never put a value over $10 on a package because of this. Has anybody else experience anything like this?

JacobSanders, Monday, 28 October 2013 19:14 (ten years ago) link

i've had people ask me to not put the real value on a package, but then if you send it with an insured value of $10 then yer fucked if something happens... it's a very tricky thing. not all countries have the same import duties of course, and i don't know what the standard is.

i just shipped a box of five records to germany and put the value as $120, which was the total before shipping. i wonder if the guy will be pissed off.

ian, Monday, 28 October 2013 19:17 (ten years ago) link

I'm also conflicted about grading after reading Scott's post above. I was thinking of using EX since I don't want to use NM unless something is sealed and no dings ,shrink completely intact etc.. I've always though VG+ is a lesser grading than EX, has light scuffs, plays with little surface noise, cover has mild wear, but EX is closer to NM almost mint. But is this a made up grading?

JacobSanders, Monday, 28 October 2013 19:23 (ten years ago) link

Yeah the customs stuff is weird. I've had ones where I put the real value but was asked to mark it as "gift" rather than "goods" but I'm sure every country is different on those rules.

dmr, Monday, 28 October 2013 20:06 (ten years ago) link

He said to never put a value over $10 on a package because of this.

I guess if someone asked me to do this I would agree to it but tell them if the record gets lost they're SOL because of the insurance implications? Like, if they want to save money on customs then the burden's on them.

dmr, Monday, 28 October 2013 20:08 (ten years ago) link

^^^ otm

ian, Monday, 28 October 2013 20:35 (ten years ago) link

i totally sell stuff that other people would list as near mint as vg+. but i don't care. i want people to be really happy when they get a record from me. and i feel like i'm covered that way. i do use the excellent grade sometimes when i have stuff that is pretty much unplayed/like new. i feel like near mint is almost a myth. i would have to listen to every record i sell very closely for me to call it near mint. i'd rather be safe than sorry. and i get repeat business as a result.

scott seward, Monday, 28 October 2013 22:54 (ten years ago) link

i used excellent for this. anyone else would have said near mint. i don't know how much more i would have made.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/331050930781?ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1561.l2649

scott seward, Monday, 28 October 2013 22:57 (ten years ago) link

That les Baxter was nice looking! Does anybody know how this guy gets $31 for Eagles first record when there's 30 copies for less on ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Eagles-Self-Titled-Original-/400591947873?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item5d45240861

JacobSanders, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 16:40 (ten years ago) link

ime, once you get a good ebay account going, selling some cool stuff at least some of the time, allowing for combined shipping, and always being responsive/deferential/quick about messages, shipping, and feedback, you can sell ANYTHING for $20+

69, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 17:10 (ten years ago) link

that's my buddy. yeah, he's got such a great rep with people. he buys tons of stuff from me. he sends e-mails to over 3000 people before he starts an auction. i could do the same thing if all i did was ebay. but for some reason i enjoy having a store. but i could make more money with huge rock auctions.

scott seward, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 19:33 (ten years ago) link

i only wince a little bit when one of my 2 dollar records that he bought from me sells for 15 or whatever. and they don't ALWAYS go for more than he bought them for. he spends a lot of money to buy records.

scott seward, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link

that doesn't really explain how he gets 124 dollars for a fever tree record though. or bloodrock records. some things are a mystery. people are loyal to him though. he sells clean stuff and people depend on him.

scott seward, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 19:40 (ten years ago) link

he sold that dan lewis album i really want. gotta find one...

scott seward, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 21:23 (ten years ago) link

37 minutes to go I get a bid followed by this a few minutes later:

"hi sorry man can u cancel my bid i wasnt me my friend did this ..im so sorry"

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 21:59 (ten years ago) link

Were you at least able to sell the record?

JacobSanders, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 00:04 (ten years ago) link

I canceled his bid at the last minute and the price dropped from $15.50 to $13.50, there were 4 bidders total so it wasn't a loss.

Afterwards I replied to be more careful in the future and that other sellers on eBay may not be as understanding as I am.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 01:55 (ten years ago) link

.. or even "around at the time"..

Mark G, Friday, 1 November 2013 09:47 (ten years ago) link

I think I've been in there.

Assuming you don't get the property itself, cos that alone would be worth way in excess of £300k in that location, that seems a little steep. I wonder how much the rent is.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 16:27 (ten years ago) link

The bar in that picture, next door to the shop for sale was an early-days London ILx late night hangout.

Tim, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 16:41 (ten years ago) link

I thought that might be the case!

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 16:53 (ten years ago) link

"If you’re at the stage in your life when you don’t have to worry about making money but can live the bohemian life"

trans. "loss making business for sale: £300k"

Then again, there was an article in this morning's paper about how Edinburgh's Unknown Pleasures has just had its best ever year due to mad Russians paying top dollar for all manner of common as muck 70s vinyl so maybe it's a good time to buy.

grown-arsed man (onimo), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 11:47 (ten years ago) link

some of those look great! weirdness with the last item though - says it's the holy modal rounders, but when you click on the link it's john hartford? migh justt be my computer being odd

ian curtis kitchen table - that is a very odd thing to want to buy

gotta lol geir (NickB), Thursday, 7 November 2013 23:17 (ten years ago) link

I just noticed that and fixed it, after listing 54 items my brain was hurting.

JacobSanders, Thursday, 7 November 2013 23:20 (ten years ago) link

great looking set jacob!

69, Friday, 8 November 2013 00:01 (ten years ago) link

Do you guys place a bid with your top price you'll pay for a record while it has days left? Or do you wait for the last few seconds? I've never don't the former and I'm always surprised by people placing bids by a few dollars, over and over and over. Aside from trying to drive the price up on a record, why bid early?

JacobSanders, Friday, 8 November 2013 19:45 (ten years ago) link

I should have bid a top price early on a Sun Kil Moon album I wanted. But that's only because it ended while I was away and disconnected from the internet.
Can't be bothered with bidding wars on the beach.

Evan, Friday, 8 November 2013 20:41 (ten years ago) link


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