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my gmail in apple mail in MAVERICKS seems fine, no idea what the problem is supposed to be, but maybe that's just because I'm a MAVERICK

Euler, Thursday, 24 October 2013 19:05 (ten years ago) link

no restarts since the third one thk fk

calling it. best OS yet

cozen, Thursday, 24 October 2013 19:09 (ten years ago) link

AirMail reminds me of Sparrow. Doesn't have multiple windows but has multiple panes. Maybe you can option-break them off into individual windows but I never would do that.

Other than Apple fucking BREAKING Mail on me, Mavericks seems solid as hell.

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 24 October 2013 19:11 (ten years ago) link

my gmail in apple mail in MAVERICKS seems fine, no idea what the problem is supposed to be, but maybe that's just because I'm a MAVERICK

yeah idk what everyone's talking about.. gmail with Mail is one of the few things that didn't break for me on maverix

diamonddave85, Thursday, 24 October 2013 19:14 (ten years ago) link

everyone is just going for it and installing a .0 release, huh

eris bueller (lukas), Thursday, 24 October 2013 19:19 (ten years ago) link

life is for living, lukas

cozen, Thursday, 24 October 2013 19:20 (ten years ago) link

I'm kind of surprised people still use desktop applications for mail.

Jeff, Thursday, 24 October 2013 19:22 (ten years ago) link

I suppose some people need offline access.

Jeff, Thursday, 24 October 2013 19:22 (ten years ago) link

I've used mailplane since the beginning. It's basically a fancified SSB, so not a full app thought it has some offline abilities, it's not synching or downloading everything, it just give you your own gmail browser with a bunch of improved features, menubar alert, resizing attachments, random stuff like that. Mostly I like to just have email open in a window that's not dependent on my browser.

dan selzer, Thursday, 24 October 2013 19:22 (ten years ago) link

webmail sucks

mh, Thursday, 24 October 2013 19:23 (ten years ago) link

gmail web interface is the epitome of "good enough"

Nhex, Thursday, 24 October 2013 19:37 (ten years ago) link

I still prefer it to most other web email interfaces, though. God, there are some awful ones.

mh, Thursday, 24 October 2013 19:38 (ten years ago) link

Yeah I just keep gmail open all day.

Jeff, Thursday, 24 October 2013 19:42 (ten years ago) link

everyone is just going for it and installing a .0 release, huh.

I'm safe, because I make sure that nothing I use my computer for is remotely important.

Alba, Thursday, 24 October 2013 19:49 (ten years ago) link

gmail's web interface is rage inducing. Horrible UI/UX.

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 24 October 2013 19:51 (ten years ago) link

I'm kind of surprised people still use desktop applications for mail.

― Jeff, Thursday, October 24, 2013 3:22 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

my email

http://i.minus.com/iR7BTaNH3Rb16.png

caek, Thursday, 24 October 2013 20:42 (ten years ago) link

?:Help

caek, Thursday, 24 October 2013 20:43 (ten years ago) link

subtle INBOX ZERO brag

乒乓, Thursday, 24 October 2013 20:45 (ten years ago) link

so many subtle brags in that screnshot

caek, Thursday, 24 October 2013 20:46 (ten years ago) link

do u like that my computer is named after a typeface? i call my computers typefaces and my hard drives american presidents. who will play board games with me?

caek, Thursday, 24 October 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link

u sound fun at parties

cozen, Thursday, 24 October 2013 20:48 (ten years ago) link

the only nerdy typeface i know is FIXEDSYS

my hard drives are named after humanities people... was with great regret that i reformatted roland barthes earlier this year.

乒乓, Thursday, 24 October 2013 20:49 (ten years ago) link

ha i should call my new computer fixedsys

(thanks to american taxpayers for my new computer btw)

caek, Thursday, 24 October 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link

mine are named for right-wing politicians

jördhaider320 still going strong

cozen, Thursday, 24 October 2013 20:51 (ten years ago) link

Siracusa: "The turning point came in Mac OS X 10.4, which added support for arbitrarily extensible file system metadata. No longer were we confined to just a file name, a few dates, and some permissions and ownership information. Now we could attach any information to a file by adding arbitrary name/value pairs."

I must have read about this at the time, but it's news to me. Hasn't exactly set the world on fire I guess.

eris bueller (lukas), Thursday, 24 October 2013 21:08 (ten years ago) link

I still remember where I was when that happened.

Alba, Thursday, 24 October 2013 21:18 (ten years ago) link

see even os x added avatars before ilx

Euler, Thursday, 24 October 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link

i've seen things you people wouldn't believe. arbitrarily extensible file system metadata added to hierarchical file systems. i watched avatars glitter in sub-retina resolution on thunderbolt displays. all those... moments... will be lost in time... like tears in the rain. time... to die.

乒乓, Thursday, 24 October 2013 21:23 (ten years ago) link

lol this thread got super interesting in the wink of an eye

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 24 October 2013 21:30 (ten years ago) link

loud embarrassing snort-laugh accomplished, thanks dayo

eris bueller (lukas), Thursday, 24 October 2013 21:35 (ten years ago) link

I still prefer it to most other web email interfaces, though. God, there are some awful ones.

― mh, Thursday, October 24, 2013 3:38 PM (4 hours ago)

my favorite was the iteration of ms exchange with a webmail interface that wouldn't work properly in internet explorer

a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Friday, 25 October 2013 00:41 (ten years ago) link

what's the opposite of eating yr own dog food

a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Friday, 25 October 2013 00:42 (ten years ago) link

That is so Microsoft

Their current Team Foundation Server web dashboard definitely works better in other browsers than IE

mh, Friday, 25 October 2013 01:34 (ten years ago) link

I have a weird bug w/tweetbot where it's hidden off the screen somewhere ungrabbable & it persists even when closed and reopened

how do I fix it

cozen, Friday, 25 October 2013 13:07 (ten years ago) link

I get that too.

If you hold down the option key, and go to the File menu you can choose "Quit and close all windows". Then restart and it should be fixed fit for the time being.

Alba, Friday, 25 October 2013 13:30 (ten years ago) link

Relaunch, I mean, not restart.

Alba, Friday, 25 October 2013 13:30 (ten years ago) link

perfect thanks

next problem: silverlight is acting like a total dog in mavericks. I thought netflix were supposed to be switching over to HTML5 - have they already done this and if they have is there a way to force netflix into HTML5?

cozen, Friday, 25 October 2013 14:07 (ten years ago) link

how long does the mavericks upgrade take? 20m, 1h, more?

caek, Friday, 25 October 2013 15:37 (ten years ago) link

Once it's downloaded, about 35 minutes for me. Though the final "About a minute left" took 10.

stet, Friday, 25 October 2013 15:38 (ten years ago) link

yeah little less than 1h. but the DL took like 2.5 hrs.

Me & Mahomies (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 25 October 2013 15:58 (ten years ago) link

for me it took over two hours to install after the download (which itself took about 4 hours). i've got an old ass 2008 iMac though

Nhex, Friday, 25 October 2013 17:58 (ten years ago) link

i think it was actually the lowest possible iMac spec for 10.9 lol

Nhex, Friday, 25 October 2013 17:58 (ten years ago) link

I must have read about this at the time, but it's news to me. Hasn't exactly set the world on fire I guess.

Excuse the digression, but it’s been a difficult decade for file systems:

2001. Palm, Inc. acquires Be, Inc. for $11 million.

2001. Palm, Inc. discontinues BeOS, therefore, the Be File System (BFS) development stops.

2002. Lucent Technologies discontinues Plan 9.

2006. Microsoft, for unknown reasons, shelves WinFS, the most promising practical file system since BFS.

2006. Hans Reiser, author of the promising ReiserFS, murders his wife, Nina.

2009. Apple advertises support for Sun Microsystems’ ZFS in OS X Server 10.6.

2010. Oracle acquires Sun Microsystems.

2010. Apple removes references to ZFS from the OS X Server website.

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 25 October 2013 20:07 (ten years ago) link

download mavericks: 4 hrs
install mavericks: 42 mins
resolve this:

http://i.imgur.com/HSN79Tm.jpg

7 hrs
download mavericks: 4 hrs
install mavericks: 42 mins

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 25 October 2013 20:24 (ten years ago) link

run diskwarrior, sounds like you have a bad directory.

dan selzer, Friday, 25 October 2013 20:26 (ten years ago) link

throw hard drive out window, buy new ssd, install mavericks, restore home directory from backup imo

mh, Friday, 25 October 2013 20:28 (ten years ago) link

yeah. i did do the disk repair thing, but odds on it's a dying drive. at least i know the backup is okay.

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 25 October 2013 20:34 (ten years ago) link

yes buy SSD and see the world from a rocketship

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Friday, 25 October 2013 20:43 (ten years ago) link

price prohibitive, sadly. i need at least 1/2 tb. also, the mbp is 3.5 yrs old and not really worth putting too much money into.

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 25 October 2013 20:49 (ten years ago) link

yeah would be trickier on MBP but I have a 2009 MacBook and the SSD gave it a new life. But you could pull out the optical drive and put in a 128 SSD for $120 in the bay. Then upgrade your dying HD for around the same price and use that for cold storage. (Depends on your workflow, of course. Are you doing a lot of video or photo work?)

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Friday, 25 October 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link


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