try glasgow more

see you at a FAP soon, then, i guess!

children's (big), regular (huge), large (very gigantic)

maybe it's been longer, since I last went to the cinema, than I had thought

I wish he'd bothered to make up a believable excuse

Anyway, who or what is the current D Betts & what is the "latest work" of which Mädchen speaks, please?

I am sure that Doctor Cock need a lot of practice.

Vodka and beetroot night can be postponed for a week to accommodate Madchen and Grimly, if only for the comedy of seeing Grimly with beetroot stuck in his moustache. Also, we could scare welcome hmmmm accordingly.

Can someone in the know please advise what time .2. are playing at Mono tomorrow?

besides the silly surrounding rhetoric

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but it gets the chop at the end of the month! (i'd quite like to keep it, actually, but mrs fiendish will rip off my bolls.)

-- Cathy (cathyleec...), September 23rd, 2005.

Adopts pompous, outraged David Keenan like tone:

Well, I guess you just didn't get it! ;)

Nah, fair enough. I went last year and heard some really interesting and powerful stuff like Steffan Basho Jungans and Richard Youngs, but there was an awful lot of boring noise and farting about. And the audience were so bloody po-faced, as if they didn't want to look "square" by laughing or yawning or just looking bored. The playful side of experimental music was sorely missing.
Le Weekend in Stirling is much better. More relaxed, more varied and more FUN! It also gives electronic music a look in, something Instal no longer does.

see that's how i'd describe national pop league or something.

see that's how i'd describe national pop league or something.

-- jed_ (colin_o_har...), September 23rd, 2005.

I've been to Pop League AND Instal. Both have their merits, both have their bad points. But at least you can dance at Pop League and it has prettier girls. :)

Dot to Dot might be a goer tonight though.

I better think about leaving

I know Reynolds is anathema to noise fans cos he likes girly things like danceable rhythms but his argument is all the more relevent now. Rather than enjoy noise for its own sake, its rhetoricians have to peddle the same old line about how it challenges everything and totally freaks out the squares man.

i don't hear any of these arguments from anyone. the people i know who like experimental music like it for its own sake, not because they think it's freaking out squares or anyone else apart from maybe the people who listen to the music (and often want to be freaked out by it). i feel like i am bombarded by noise music day after day and it often does my fuckin head in, it's just that that brand of noise is made by pussycat dolls or rachel stevens or franz ferdinand and is almost unavoidable. it's not all total shite but it often depressesor annoys me after the 20th listen. People who make experimental music are not under any illusions that it's permeating the mainstream or "freaking out" the general public. they are well aware of it's limited audience but thank god it's an audience that is fairly well catered for in Scotland. a great deal of the music is so quiet people would have a hard time hearing it even it it was playing.

Oxtongue - Delight
Damien Marley - Welcome to Jamrock
Terry riley - Persian surgery dervishes
Coil - sex with sun ra
& Roisin Murphy - If We're in love

none of it extremely noisy but if people can find pockets to hear the music they want to (even if it's their own living room) then thats a good thing, after all. i'm not saying that anyone on this thread is saying otherwise (even cathy ;-) )