try glasgow more

Is that other place you went to McSorleys?

I think so!

^best night in glasgow imo; great venue too

went along and this seems likely to be accurate. esp in favour of no illumination apart from lasers. sadly I didn't spot jed to say hello!

Ward and I had a sedate, largely tea-based FAP, and I'm pleased to report that the gentleman who served me was very smiley and helpful.

yeah, the grumpy manager wasn't there yesterday

nice to see sic again - sedate was great

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-25163045

Bloody hell.

That's just round the corner from me. Many streets blocked off. Holy fuck.

Someone really wants to get this BBC News anchor a map of Glasgow or a phone number for someone at BBC Scotland. If I hear her ask one more eyewitness if it's a rare occurence for a police helicopter to be flying over Glasgow, I'll put my foot through the telly.

Hi Glasgow, hope you're all okay. xx

When isnt there a polis copter flying over the west of scotland?

xp

yeah i hope no ilxors were there and hope noones been killed.

Lots of reports about how bystanders ran towards the crash, not away from it. Good old Glasgow.

thanks, Matt x

where are we looking for updates? i can't find anything of much use.

This BBC anchor is pure gagging for there to have been an explosion or something more exciting than your common-or-garden helicopter-crash-lands-on-roof-of-pub story. Also keeps saying "unconfirmed reports that it's a police helicopter" despite the on-screen pictures showing the word POLICE on the mangled wreckage.

really hoping this works out as okay as possible, so awful to hear about. be okay glasgow

jed_ , I'm just getting stuff from twitter.

Thanks for looking out for us, guys. Most Glasgow folk of my acquaintance seem to have surfaced on twitter or facebook now. Despite what the BBC are saying about how popular the area is, it really isn't, and it seems to be absolutely localised on that one pub.

Sorry, should add, I'm not trivialising it at all, but it's very localised on a very small area. The fact that the crash didn't cause a fire is amazing and I'm so thankful that it didn't, and that will have aided the rescue effort tremendously.

that's true ailsa.

it would be unlikely that a crashed helicopter on a pub would result in no casualties though but here's hoping.

I need to step away from rolling news coverage. So much scaremongering and sensationalising that it's hard to actual just go OMGWTF A HELICOPTER FUCKING CRASHED ON A PUB without getting cross at ghouls trying to rustle up new scarier angles, so much so that I'm already starting to become desensitised to OMGWTF A HELICOPTER FUCKING CRASHED ON A PUB in its own right.

Gordon Smart, editor the Scottish Sun, told the BBC:

I can't really believe what's happened. I was on the phone at the time and I heard a misfiring engine. Looked above me, couldn't work out where it was coming from, it got louder and louder and I just spotted a helicopter falling from the sky.

It was falling at great speed. It looked like the rotors weren't spinning but the helicopter was sort of turning in a strange position and dropping at great speed. Oddly enough there was no explosion no fire ball.

It's a busy Friday night, a lot of people have been out in the pubs, there are a lot of pubs in that area. I do fear… I would be staggered if there weren't fatalities from the area it's landed.

I don't know about whoever was in the helicopter, but it kinda sounds like it could have been a lot worse for people in the pub. There's a lot of jibber jabber going round.

Yeah, the pub and its clientele seem to have got off relatively lightly.

I cant imagine anyone in the helicopter surviving but fingers crossed.

If it had exploded there could have been dozens dead inside.

Fucking Mail!

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/360189/Screen%20Shot%202013-11-30%20at%2001.54.52.png

WTF?

This is just awful, and so close to the river - wonder if that was where the helicopter was trying to get to, to avoid people. Much love Glasgow x

Not to be a scaremonger but deaths seem inevitable.hoping that's not the case obv.what a shitty situation.

I used to work and live next to Clyde like mile west of there and choppers are always going up and down there.heliport is next to river by the secc.

On the news I keep hearing "crashed into the roof" but that doesn't give an entirely accurate picture - it's a single-story building with, at least in part, a flat roof.

The auld Clutha, eh? Never liked it as a pub much, I must admit. I haven't been as glued to 24 hour news since Johnny Smeaton did his superhero act @ Glasgow Airport that time.

...goes to show the small amount of tragic news in Scotland.

There's plenty of tragedy going on in Scotland 24/7 believe you me!

like in any other place, but the difference is with the numbers i guess.
one man dead = no news
10 man dead = "breaking news"

Just been forwarded a thing on FB from a famous American (who was in a recent WDYLL with an ILXor) "storm troopers" crashed it deliberately because they suspected there was an IRA meeting in there and Britain is a fascist dictatorship targeting innocent Irishes.

Probably belongs on the o_0 thread.

Bit of a noisy place for a meeting, there was a band going full tilt at the time

yeah, besides of that the theory is perfect

Yes, there aren't a whole ton of more likely pubs just a few hundred yards up the road either. Top detective work, weirdo conspiracy dude!

Shit. 8 people confirmed dead.

In work at a different venue in glasgow all day today and not heard a single mention of this, from anyone.

i only talked to 4 people today and they all mentioned it.

Not a pub I've ever drunk in, but have still had a stream of texts from friends in England over the weekend, checking in - seems to have been a big story down South. Hoping no ILXors have personal involvement.

http://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1454724_10202747494227935_1141099317_n.jpg

Is that the same John McGarrigle that died in the helicopter crash?

it is!

Yes it is. I saw it on the facebook wall of someone I know, who wrote: "This is written by an old friend of my Mum's who died in The Clutha on Friday night. When i was a wee girl he picked me up and threw me in a rubbish skip and told me the rats were coming. You could have heard his laugh a mile away. Thinking of his family."

bit reminiscent of tom leonard.

got an office christmas party tonight in Glasgow at... The Book Club, is that a place? Will also be around tomorrow evening if anyone fancies a pint, otherwise I'll... do something else. Like have a pint.

Yeah, the Book Club is a fairly dece pub/bar in the West End.

A drink tomorrow sounds doable for me Fizzles - any particular place/area you fancy?

how come you moved to glasgow Ward Fowler

to be closer to you conrad

That'd be great, Ward - I'm catching the sleeper back from the main station but anywhere on the subway loop/an easy bus route is fine. happy to play it by ear btw, but as I say I'll be around and footloose tomorrow evening.

but i live in london

how come you moved to london conrad

Fizzles - sounds good, I work pretty close to Central Station so I'm sure we can find somewhere that suits us, even on a Friday night.