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400 words of anguished over-analysis is nothing to dog latin, bless him

Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 November 2013 14:30 (ten years ago) link

One of many things stopping it is that the relevant thread is on ilm

Tho if i werent busy id c/p it but under my name, thatd be larks

golfdinger (darraghmac), Thursday, 14 November 2013 14:35 (ten years ago) link

darraghmac wrote this on thread Posts you had second thought about and decided not to post - put them here on board I Love Everything on 14-Nov-2013

well if you feel much more revulsion towards the cultural signifiers of black working class commodity fetishism than towards other kinds of commodity fetishism etc then you perhaaaaaps have questions to be asking of yourself.

― Merdeyeux, Thursday, November 14, 2013 1:03 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That's a fair point. I know I'm gonna get in hot water for suggesting this post, but arguably gold chains etc aren't necessarily specific to black working class cultures any more and haven't been for quite a few decades. i don't like this song. i think lily allen's attempt at parody and cutting social commentary is weak, massively misguided and really rather insensitive, especially when put under the scrutiny of a line by line/shot by shot dissection. as a send-up of pop and consumerist culture it forgets a number of things and winds up as straight-up hypocrisy. but it also concerns me that people are willing to call her an out-and-out racist/sexist etc because of an ill-advised and poorly-executed attempt to take the piss out of pop / fashion as well as those who exploit it. disregarding allen's back-story (and her historical spat with azealia banks, which i only found out about yesterday and is completely indefensible), it's a massively ill-thought-out bit of work especially for a comeback single and i agree with a huge number of points made. but there's also an element of hysteria surrounding this, much of which involves analysing this video/song in microscopic detail and branding it outwardly and intentionally offensive. i would say that it's simply a failure. it fails on every level in what it's trying to do. it's a crap song for a start. the lyrics are sub-comedic and just plain dumb. the video might be taking the piss out of thicke, cyrus et al but only by replicating and exaggerating exactly what happened in those videos thus nullifying any social commentary it sets out to make. the whole thing is awful, but i believe it is trying to make a wider point. it's just a shame that that point is lost, almost entirely because of how badly executed it is and how easy it is for internet pundits to tear it to pieces and show it up for how unintentionally insensitive the results are. still, i don't believe it wasn't made with good intentions somehow, i just think they got lost along the way.

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Thursday, 14 November 2013 14:37 (ten years ago) link

That wasnt me

golfdinger (darraghmac), Thursday, 14 November 2013 14:41 (ten years ago) link

in your opinion it wasn't you, maybe not in my opinion

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Thursday, 14 November 2013 14:43 (ten years ago) link

Just like Eagles, this thread never dies!

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 14 November 2013 14:45 (ten years ago) link

I dont want the mods to get involved here and i dont know how this has happened but that wasnt me i swear

golfdinger (darraghmac), Thursday, 14 November 2013 14:46 (ten years ago) link

who is to say who ever 'introduces' the discourse? the discourse precedes us, it is there, latent and ethereal

whether the discourse is attributed to deems or to dog latin seems almost arbitrary

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Thursday, 14 November 2013 14:49 (ten years ago) link

the pinefox wrote this on thread keep the meme alive: Pippa's Arse on board I Love Music on 13-May-2011

OI MATES SOME BIG BOTTOM BIRD IS ALL OVER THE NEWSY WEWSIES, I"M GONNA MAKE ME A 'ORRIBLE POST ABOUT IT TO ME ILXOR CHUMS, ALSO BLOOD SAUSAGE IS DELICIOUS

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Thursday, 14 November 2013 15:36 (ten years ago) link

if anything it's too much the other way but i mean

golfdinger (darraghmac), Thursday, 14 November 2013 17:50 (ten years ago) link

Christmas music is the Don Henley of musics.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 14 November 2013 18:13 (ten years ago) link

it's like deodorant and breathmints for assholism. preventative measures that are really just about having taken them as opposed to how effective they actually are

sarahell, Thursday, 14 November 2013 21:31 (ten years ago) link

I'm not pointing them, out it's what I do because I don't know how to killfile you.

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 November 2013 20:35 (ten years ago) link

Thread back on course, gw deems

dicktweeter perpetuo (wins), Friday, 15 November 2013 20:37 (ten years ago) link

think i prefered when this guy was just boring instead of boring right up his own hole

a strident purist when it comes to band-related shirts (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 November 2013 20:51 (ten years ago) link

He has many sides to him

comic sbans soref (wins), Friday, 15 November 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link

"skilled at pithily evaluating the efforts of colleagues"

sarahell, Friday, 15 November 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link

http://img2.imagesbn.com/p/9781579907037_p0_v1_s260x420.jpg

sarahell, Monday, 18 November 2013 00:08 (ten years ago) link

i always hated arcade fire until i started posting here and began liking them out of spite

tɹi.ʃɪp (Treeship), Monday, 18 November 2013 16:16 (ten years ago) link

why would you not post that where it belongs.

pplains, Monday, 18 November 2013 16:17 (ten years ago) link

"Oh, goodness. A comment about the Arcade Fire that contains snark about both the band and ILX. This will not do, oh no, this will not do."

pplains, Monday, 18 November 2013 16:18 (ten years ago) link

Sorry, I wasn't going to post those at first, had second thoughts, and then realized I was already in the right place.

pplains, Monday, 18 November 2013 16:19 (ten years ago) link

This really is a collection of particularly uninteresting records and Haim

― imago-er not a show-er (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 19 November 2013 04:43 (5 hours ago)

http://i.imgur.com/8SbgzuI.jpg

just got dope thai food (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 19 November 2013 10:15 (ten years ago) link

start an anti-excelsior thread where you post all humor mis-fires and failed jokes, that'll shame 'em!

― Ornate Coleman (Moodles), Tuesday, 19 November 2013 21:52 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

soft snow dogsblood and grain alcohol (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 November 2013 22:00 (ten years ago) link

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flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 02:09 (ten years ago) link

something about not knowing anything about post tenebrae lux before watching it, trying to fill the gaps between some segments with some made up narrative. the sport kids are from the future! also posting to showcase my display name on front page

lolzzzzz

30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 November 2013 19:12 (ten years ago) link

loving the fact that the guy who spent a decade+ broadcasting his obsessive xls of pop cultural figures he imagined are tories reckons we don't have enough intellectual real estate to discuss racism in pop anymore

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Sunday, 24 November 2013 12:01 (ten years ago) link

i can't believe ur still discussing this have some shame ilx

Mordy , Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:18 (ten years ago) link

^doctor who obvs

veneer timber (imago), Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:20 (ten years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/ZumnktJ.jpg

A Skanger Barkley (nakhchivan), Monday, 25 November 2013 09:57 (ten years ago) link

Id love to know if ppl fp posts itt

if so mods should rebound that shit hardcorrrrre imo

30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Monday, 25 November 2013 12:00 (ten years ago) link

U forgot to wilt onto a chaise longue with a kerchief pressed to ur head

30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 12:54 (ten years ago) link

Imma protest next paddys day re what finn mccool done on the formorians

30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Saturday, 30 November 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link

Tell that to edwyn collins

malapopism (wins), Saturday, 30 November 2013 21:06 (ten years ago) link

i agree w/ all posters who are righteous + holy and disagree strenuously w/ all decadent, evil posters

Mordy , Monday, 2 December 2013 18:41 (ten years ago) link

POLLS

Working Class Rejected Street Boot Brat (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 December 2013 08:25 (ten years ago) link

Its terrible how etc

mind totally brown (darraghmac), Friday, 6 December 2013 08:52 (ten years ago) link

you're wanking over your own world weariness imo

gaze not into the navel (onimo), Friday, 6 December 2013 14:15 (ten years ago) link

lol

mind totally brown (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:49 (ten years ago) link

welcome back

Mordy , Tuesday, 10 December 2013 23:18 (ten years ago) link

lol

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 02:55 (ten years ago) link

lol

mind totally brown (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 03:00 (ten years ago) link

nope

#YOLTMB (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 December 2013 19:18 (ten years ago) link

nope

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Thursday, 12 December 2013 19:20 (ten years ago) link

shut up about star wars

i am curious #yolo (wins), Friday, 13 December 2013 19:14 (ten years ago) link

srs question have you guys ever heard a song

deeja entendu (wins), Friday, 13 December 2013 20:56 (ten years ago) link


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