Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

moderator, nu-godwins

Upskirt top ranking

^^^ Thank fuck for the voice of reason.

Give that man a byline pic

I love this:

It is impossible to judge how many women have been victims of upskirting,

i.e. the cross reference for people who need "women" explaining to them...

Stuff a Canon up my crack an' ting...

All those thrusting Thatcherkids are too busy going bust to find out what "women" are!

While the image of the "Peeping Tom" may seem quintessentially British

Eh?

OrigiNAL Peeping Tom that fellow who went blind looking at Lady Godiva?

But Lady Godiva wasn't wearing a skirt...

I don't think she even existed did she?

If she did though and she had been wearing a skirt no doubt some pervy Englsihman would have tried to make a drawing of it and sold it down the market.

She did, but there is no contemporary report of her riding naked through Coventry.

No wonder, she did it ages ago.

Mediaeval paparazzi sleeping on the job there

It was a three month journey up from London on perilous roads to be fair.

How did the story about her riding naked develop? Did some kind of historical fanfic writer come up with it?

It was a three month journey up from London on perilous roads to be fair.

Ending up in Coventry too.

Also there was an even more famous noblewoman dying of cancer in Northampton at the same time.

You mean Lady Jade?

One of those leeches vs. lechers editorial decisions

The Department of Health figures (one in five will have tried cannabis by the age of 15) insist use is falling in Britain. That's not how it feels in south London - or, presumably, south Manchester or south Glasgow. Here, it feels like everyone has had a toke by the age of 15. Of these, only some will become regular users. For most of them, it is a Saturday-night high and nothing more. But for some, it becomes unshakeable.

Is that Julie Myerson?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/mar/10/cannabis-drug-abuse

the comments on that bad boy are ace; did someone mobilise the national cannabis crew or something?

"This is the worst self indulgent middle class non angst Ive ever had the misfortune to read. You have no idea of real pain, or grief. Your faux desire to help others whilst undoubtably pocketing an advance and profit from sales proves what is is wrong with the kid of the UK today. Their narcissistic parents. You could learn a thing or two from your teenage son. Listen to him"

btw no it doesn't feel like that in south London

I have hardly ever seen cannabis

yeah in south glasgow it doesn't feel like that all that much either

she was on Newsnight last night and I just wound up thinking, what is the point of all this public angsting? go away and do whatever you do in private. maybe she is too used to being looked at and on camera etc by this point

drugs are for idiots tbqh, but j-myer is one of the worst newsnight review people of all time. in a hotly contested field of shite.

agree about the field

and sort of about her
but it's so hotly contested!

I agree drugs are for idiots and also about j-dogg; perhaps a... poll is in order?

who do we have

kwame
eshun
greer
morley
john harris
the tory guy
myerson

??

j-myer is one of the worst newsnight review people of all time. in a hotly contested field of shite

Amen to that. She's a contmeptible airhead. Don't agree about drugs being for idiots.

I read a newspaper article about all this and I can say flat-out that her decision to write about what she did is truly, truly repulsive. Typical sheltered North London entitlement-seeker?

the tory guy

michael gove. yeah, maybe he is worse.

(xp) There's hundreds of the buggers

Tom Paulin occasionally? Slowly turning into a giant CREASE?
Asian guy with big hair.
Michael Gove *vomit*
Jolly Northern poet bloke.
Horsey looking American blonde.
Small Asian woman with short hair who I saw in Archway a few weeks back.
That Lionel woman, novelist who wears gloves indoors.

etc etc

Does Paulin do Newsnight Review anymore? Haven't watched it for yeeeears.

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i will never, ever understand people who air their dirty laundry in public, or even just opening up their private lives to the world at all

I'm glad someone mentioned this because I wanted to scream and throw things at the television. She railed that none of her critics had read the book; Paxman said he had. She knows damn well that most reviewers will have had it for a month or so so frankly, does not wash. Contemptible woman.

My family have given me permission to write about every single last bit of weird shit that has ever happened to us but if any of them objected at draft stage I'd have to reconsider my structure.

Well, there are levels. Writing a book explicitly describing your own son as a drug-addict psychopath and then courting all the publicity you can about it seems like quite a dicey way to go about winning friends/influencing people. xp

Good way to sell books though

and more to the point, um, he isnt?

"Harry Potter and the fucking enormous bong I found in his bedroom"

Maybe she's setting him up in life by giving him the opportunity to write a bestselling rejoinder

I wonder what Max Gogarty thinks of it all

no i was talking more generally...this is particularly distasteful but i just don't understand that urge to let everyone know about your business. i'd be mortified at the idea of parading even the best stuff in my private life in the national newspapers. i'm not objecting, i read that shit as much as anyone, but i just could never do it. this probably makes me a victorian or something and means i'll never be a celebrity.

xps

My current stance is that if there's a story worth telling, that doesn't misrepresent, distort or compromise anyone, then it should be told, but stories worth telling are rarely of the sort where someone spills their subjective personal shit to a journalist for cash. These normally turn out to be the kind of uninteresting, harmful stories whose only use is to demonstrate the power and maleovolence of mass media and all who sail in/whore themselves to her. Just blog it ffs.

Jeez, that J Myerson article is some mealy-mouthed weepy-eyed bs, as well as being way tl;dr. In the same way that he sez his son is basically a FUCKING GENIUS he has to have TERRIBLE TERRIBLE problems that are hardly out of the ordinary.

Newsnight Review is a pretty astonishing programme. Why would I want those most of those peoples opinions on anything? They aren't even funny.

Also, fuck pussys who can't take their weed.

(Yes, I would like to work for mass media, but you know what I mean.) ;-)

I'm glad Suzy saw it too. JM seemed so pointless; just go away, woman! be quiet!

dire how she kept saying HE'S MY BOY
awful !!!

he's probably a tosser too, the Boy

the Max Gogarty line above is so funny !!

the really odd thing about the Review people is how many of them I have met.

Morley
Harris
Myerson
Churchwell

oh, OK, that's only 4. it feels like more.

I'm glad Suzy saw it too. JM seemed so pointless; just go away, woman! be quiet!

dire how she kept saying HE'S MY BOY
awful !!!

he's probably a tosser too, the Boy

the Max Gogarty line above is so funny !!

the really odd thing about the Review people is how many of them I have met.

Morley
Harris
Myerson
Churchwell

oh, OK, that's only 4. it feels like more.