Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

enjoying the attempt to outflank the nyt here

groce

wouldn't "snuff box" be a great slang term for a coffin?

I'm a sucker for these sorts of lavish designs

http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/nov/01/snowden-nsa-files-surveillance-revelations-decoded

― sktsh, Friday, November 1, 2013 1:16 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark

this is the worst shit in the universe, are you high

hurts not to be able to c+p the intelligence dossier graphic of like

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2474/3904152560_b208111ca5_z.jpg

U S President B OBAMA

xp mibbes aye. What am I not seeing that makes it so shit? (not defending it, just wondering why the visceral reaction 2 weeks on)

http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2013/08/snow_fall_the_jockey_the_scourge_of_the_new_york_times_bell_and_whistle.html

I’m all for experimentation in Web journalism. I think videos, graphics, large-format images and other extra-textual elements can improve storytelling. But I suspect that years from now, we’ll look back at “Snow Fall,” “The Jockey,” and their copycats in the same way we now regard 1990s-era dancing hamster animations—as an example of excess, a moment when designers indulged their creativity because they now have the technical means to do so, and not because it improved the story or readers’ understanding of it.

You can't tell what works without experimenting and pushing boundaries and I can't imagine there will ever be the budget for something like this to be a regular thing. I think throwing everything at the wall in these pretty rare features is a good way to take stock, look at how they are received, see what works and throw away what doesn't.

the whole reason people went nuts over the snow fall story is because it obviously DID improve the reader's understanding of the story

not the case for all bells'n'whistles stuff granted

in the same way we now regard 1990s-era dancing hamster animations—as an example of excess, a moment when designers indulged their creativity because they now have the technical means to do so

That's not how we regard the dancing hamsters of the 1990s, though, is it? It seems to me they're exactly like Snow Fall: designers experimenting and coming to grips with what the technology now allows them to do. In one case the eventual result is .gif swallowing the world like it has, hopefully in the other we get online newspaper design that's as creative and expressive as print.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/nov/20/hull-residents-celebrate-city-culture

can't even post picture of Hannah at a reasonable size

dave simpson is toilet

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/21/single-man-guide-blue-is-the-warmest-colour-lesbian-drama

Hey Nick Dastoor I don't give a shit what films you go to see but I do now think you are creepy as fuck.

hi

I am listening to the Pooh Sticks!

good to see the popcorn trick getting props again

Hey Nick Dastoor I don't give a shit what films you go to see but I do now think you are creepy as fuck.

Ah well, you can't please all the people all of the time

There are worse things to be creepy as.

Daniel Radcliffe: 'I ask myself, would Michael Fassbender do it?
Harry Potter star Daniel Radcliffe speaks to Simon Hattenstone about smoking, his musical tastes and the embarrassment of being a millionaire

smoking

It won the Palme d'Or at Cannes. Steven Spielberg called it magnificent. Peter Bradshaw's given it a glowing review.

vs

Which film critics do you trust (if any?)
Peter Bradshaw personally - he can be relied upon to be totally wrong.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, September 4, 2002 12:34 PM (11 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and Nick Dastoor is the creepy one...

hot dog, jumping frog, alba's quirky

Thank You Breaking News ticker

N-Dubz's Dappy kicked in face by horse

and thank you horse

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/dec/08/middle-aged-drink-drug-abusers-nhs-hospital-admissions

More than half a million people have been hospitalised in the past three years because of drink or drugs, with those in their 40s behind a surge in cases that is putting a strain on the NHS, official figures reveal. A total of 533,302 people in England have been admitted to hospital as an emergency since 2010 with serious health problems related to their consumption of alcohol or illicit substances. The vast majority were admissions for conditions specifically related to alcohol abuse, such as liver problems. Of those, 60,738 were aged 40 to 44 and another 60,083 were 45 to 49 – together, more than a fifth of the total. Some were admitted a number of times between 2010 and 2013....There is no comparative data, as this is the first time the figures have been compiled in this way...

jay rayners column in the print edition of todays observer namechecks john paul sartre

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/dec/08/middle-aged-drink-drug-abusers-nhs-hospital-admissions

More than half a million people have been hospitalised in the past three years because of drink or drugs, with those in their 40s behind a surge in cases that is putting a strain on the NHS, official figures reveal. A total of 533,302 people in England have been admitted to hospital as an emergency since 2010 with serious health problems related to their consumption of alcohol or illicit substances. The vast majority were admissions for conditions specifically related to alcohol abuse, such as liver problems. Of those, 60,738 were aged 40 to 44 and another 60,083 were 45 to 49 – together, more than a fifth of the total. Some were admitted a number of times between 2010 and 2013....There is no comparative data, as this is the first time the figures have been compiled in this way...

I read the "There is no comparative data, as this is the first time the figures have been compiled in this way..." as referring to the section before it, which you haven't quoted, about drinking broken down by socioeconomic group. There shouldn't have been a paragraph break, though.

Even if that's the case, they're saying >80% of these people are not in their 40s which hardly supports they opening sentence.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/dec/10/david-moyes-john-major-sport-politics-fail-manchester-united

For those who turn rarely to the back pages, Moyes is in his first season as the manager of Manchester United. He inherited a team that had just won yet another title as Premier League champions, but under him they are struggling...

For those who turn rarely to the back pages....
- it's 2013 and you can read articles online
- why would you be reading this?

It's 2013 and people still talk about the silver screen, records and all manner of other things which have become or are becoming something else.

did you know that software uses a floppy-disk-looking save icon when it's 2013 and like no-one uses floppy disks anymore???

Journos still refer to fans 'on the terraces' of premier league clubs

And the green ink brigade scribbles online.

i seen a crow fly

and i seen a house fly

i just wanna know the quantity of people reading an article about the most famous football club in the world but don't know anything about their last 6 months

i think they have analytics for that these days, you should put in an FOI request

Give it a fucking rest with Edward Snowden will ya? Front-page as predictable as a Daily Express wonderdrug/weather/diana story.

xxp wanna correlate that with the number of people claiming to support the most famous football club in the world but don't know anything about their last 6 months

What's more, Moyes has broken a few awkward records. Under him, the team have lost at home to Everton (his old club) for the first time in 21 years and on Saturday lost to Newcastle at Old Trafford for the first time since 1972.

Those aren't actually records, just the end of a sequence.

yeah and those kinds of sequences always seem pretty meaningless to me, as if the same teams had actually been playing for 20 or 30 years rather than a new set of players meeting most seasons

think there are certain stats that arguably cast a psychological shadow over proceedings, Spurs' record at OT and Arsenal's grounds coming to mind, but yeah not convinced that Man U v Newcastle is one of them

Yeah, there are two things here: the first, as you say, is that while a team not winning a local derby for ten years is obviously going to be a big deal to both sets of supporters, you keep hearing irrelevant stats trotted out like "and Preston haven't won at Villa Park since 1953" when this is of no interest to anyone and there will have been lengthy stretches where the teams didn't play each other anyway. The second (as I said) is that when that sequence ends no record has been broken. In fact possibly the opposite: if they'd continued to avoid defeat it might have set a new record for the longest unbeaten run at home against Newcastle / Everton.

http://www.andrewrilstone.com/2013/11/todays-guardian-essay-about-c.html

^ That strikes me as very representative of the Guardian's literature 'n' culture part – a lot of writers queuing up to have a go at C.S. Lewis, without realising that they're more or less the only people who care about him now.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/dec/20/hipster-sexists-pornographic-filth-loo-flesh-buns

this is horrendously written.

I want to know why Wednesday’s parliamentary ruckus about food banks was all over the Independent and Mirror yesterday and not mentioned at all in the Guardian (there was an incomplete parliamentary “sketch”). Online they only have Jack Monroe saying “Let’s have a debate about food banks.” Too late for debates; the government has made it perfectly clear what it thinks of “debates.”

amazingly, that's not even the worst vagenda piece in the last 24 hours

xp Yeah, it's terrible writing, but something awful has obviously happened to it in the editing as well, e.g.:

Because these cartoon sex dolls look pre-pubescent but for their humungous .

Girls squeezing their so hard it makes you wince.

And you can call me humourless or Victorian or , but I don't care.

I want my hypothetical daughters to be able to peeeat out and shop and live in peace.