Werner Herzog films: c/d/s/d

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you know which one I saw a few months back which blew my mind? FATA MORGANA. Echoey Sahara Desert travelogue with almost no dialogue, until the final third, where they show up at a bordello, and just... hang out.

I've never seen a bad Herzog film.

― (Jon L), Thursday, 28 October 2004 17:25 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm otm.

― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 28 October 2004 17:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I have seen a bad Herzog actually, now that I think about it ... Where The Green Ants Dream is pretty bad.

― identity theftor (deangulberry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 17:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Invincible was bad at times, probably the worst Herzog I've seen. You just can win when you have an overly earnest kid part in a film.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 28 October 2004 17:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Incident at Loch Ness was very amusing. At this point in Herzog's career mocking himself is one of the better things he can do.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 29 October 2004 04:00 (nineteen years ago) link

i've never seen a w.h. film

― amateur!!st, Friday, 29 October 2004 04:02 (nineteen years ago) link

I have many, I can let you borrow them.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 29 October 2004 04:07 (nineteen years ago) link

but will you?

― grammateur!!st, Friday, 29 October 2004 04:08 (nineteen years ago) link

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000067X3.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

yes, I WILL

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 29 October 2004 04:14 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.sonymusic.com.tw/album/494939-2/494939-2-b.jpg

― amateur!!st, Friday, 29 October 2004 04:17 (nineteen years ago) link

MASSIVE fucking classic.
Didn't like Heart of glass.
Saw virtually everything else mentioned up thread tho' and found it all brill.
Search: aguirre, fitzcarraldo, kaspar hauser, little dieter, nosferateau for starters.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 29 October 2004 05:37 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd interested to know if anyone has seen Werner Herzog Eats his Shoe. Apparently, he promised Errol Morris (another feature documentary maker) that he would eat his own shoe if Errol completed a his long term project Mr Death, which he did in 95. So next time they met up Errol made him keep his word.
-- K-reg (drelocatio...), November 6th, 2001 7:00 PM.

Actually, the film was Gates of Heaven. W.H. Eats His Shoe is like the greatest film trailer of all time.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 29 October 2004 09:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Apparently, Les Blank's doc on the making of Fitzcarraldo is even more classic.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 29 October 2004 09:12 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, that's classic.

― cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 29 October 2004 09:26 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...

herzog rules me. nosferatu is one of the very few remakes i've seen that actually works.. and has great artistic merit in its own right. i'm thinking i need a herzog box set if such a thing exists. i just bought stroszeck the other day.. i love films like this, which portray life so starkly. some time last year i went to his premiere of wheel of time at the la county museum of art.. it's a doc the dalai lama commissioned him to make about buddhism and the pilgrimage to bodh gaya.. intriguing, but at many points i felt detached since herzog admittedly doesn't know a great deal about buddhism (and neither do i). i guess it's one of those projects that is designed to make you want to research the subject.. so that's probably a sign it's a fairly successful film.

― steph jam (steph jam), Sunday, 9 January 2005 23:58 (nineteen years ago) link

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http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005YKXQ/qid=1105315485/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/102-4554796-5040927?v=glance&s=dvd&n=507846

― American Apparel and Jeanne-Claude (deangulberry), Monday, 10 January 2005 00:05 (nineteen years ago) link

I love halfway through the thread when kyle and jed talk about owning Herzog films and still not having watched them. I bought used copies of those two Anchor Bay collections for insanely cheap (less than $100 for both, iirc) sometime last year and still haven't watched any of the films except for Lessons in Darkness. Herzog must just be attractive to keep at arms length.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 10 January 2005 00:17 (nineteen years ago) link

the book title herzog on herzog has the potential to be a compelling pr0n, starring, of course.. herzog. or maybe it could be lena herzog and werner herzog. his wife is a hot younger blonde.

― steph jam (steph jam), Monday, 10 January 2005 00:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Werner Herzog has the best voice for DVD commentary tracks.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 10 January 2005 00:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Werner Herzog has the best voice for Earth.

― American Apparel and Jeanne-Claude (deangulberry), Monday, 10 January 2005 01:04 (nineteen years ago) link

his short documentary on american livestock auctioneers is pretty great. it centers around an annual contest of some of the fastest-speaking motherfuckers i've ever heard. i think it's called "how much wood could a woodchuck chuck?"

― contribute, Monday, 10 January 2005 02:03 (nineteen years ago) link

It's so sad at the beginning of 'the enigma of kaspar hauser' when it says 'every man for himself and god against all'

― mm, Monday, 10 January 2005 02:45 (nineteen years ago) link

i love him! i love werner!

― .adam (nordicskilla), Monday, 10 January 2005 02:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Deep Discount DVD has both boxed sets for $53.99 each (free shipping), so that's $9 for each DVD - a steal. The Kinski/Herzog box is phenomenal. The only so-so disc is Cobra Verde, and even that one has some astounding moments. I was really amazed by My Best Fiend - definitely one of the best docs of the 90s. The opening scene with Kinski on his "Jesus" tour is alone worth the price of admission.

― Ernest P. (ernestp), Monday, 10 January 2005 02:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Have either of those fictitious documentaries in the Ebert anecdote surfaced?

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Monday, 10 January 2005 02:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Search: Burden of Dreams, a doc about the making of Fitzcarraldo, if only for this quote (read in the most ridiculous German, Sprockets-ish accent you can muster):

"Kinski says [the jungle] is full of erotic elements. It's not so much erotic, but full of obscenity. Nature here is vile and base. I wouldn't see anything erotic here. I see fornication and asphyxiation and choking, fighting for survival and growing and just rotting away. Of course there's a lot of misery, but it's the same misery that's all around us. The trees are in misery, and the birds are in misery. I don't think they sing; they just screech in pain. Taking a close look at what's around us, there is some sort of harmony. It's the harmony of overwhelming and collective murder. But when I say this, I say this all full of admiration for the jungle. It's not that I hate it. I love it. I love it very much. But I love it against my better judgment."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

― fauxhemian (fauxhemian), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 20:24 (nineteen years ago) link

i STILL haven't watched Fitzcaralldo and Kasper Hauser. I will one day I suppose.

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 20:29 (nineteen years ago) link

The trees are in misery
I love it!

― LSTD (answer) (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 20:30 (nineteen years ago) link

"Burden of Dreams" is better than "Fitzcarraldo" itself. is it available on DVD?

― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:06 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Incident At Loch Ness was awful!

― whatever (nordicskilla), Sunday, 27 March 2005 21:29 (nineteen years ago) link

so i hear :(

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 27 March 2005 22:56 (nineteen years ago) link

jed wrote: "Burden of Dreams" is better than "Fitzcarraldo" itself. is it available on DVD?

Burden of Dreams: this May, on Criterion!

― Ernest P. (ernestp), Sunday, 27 March 2005 22:59 (nineteen years ago) link

I really enjoyed Incident at Loch Ness.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 27 March 2005 23:46 (nineteen years ago) link

I saw that you did!

― whatever (nordicskilla), Sunday, 27 March 2005 23:57 (nineteen years ago) link

I've only seen Aguirre and it's fantastic.

― What we want? Sex with T.V. stars! What you want? Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Ma, Monday, 28 March 2005 00:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I thought Incident at Loch Ness was really good. It also made me go out and rent Aguirre the next day. I had never seen any Werner Herzog films before.

― allowed (spaces are allowed), Monday, 28 March 2005 01:03 (nineteen years ago) link

i thought aguirre was fine but incredibly over-rated when i saw it a few years ago. since then i've seen and loved both lessons of darkness & my best fiend though, so i'm guessing by the time i get around to re-viewing aguirre i'll appreciate it more.

― andrew s (andrew s), Monday, 28 March 2005 01:40 (nineteen years ago) link

I nominated Fitzcarraldo in the 80s poll, but I had gotten it confused with Aguirre. That's the only one I love.

― a banana (alanbanana), Monday, 28 March 2005 02:47 (nineteen years ago) link

I still haven't watched Fitzcaralldo or Kaspar Hauser! But I also haven't sold them like I have most of my other DVDs.

― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 28 March 2005 06:26 (nineteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I just saw Aguirre and it's insane. watching it made me hate all those widescreen pretty-beautiful epics that are ten a penny. it's so fucking real-looking. anthony minghella please watch a Herzong film then give up or kill yourself. obviously Aguirre is astonishing to look at but makes you realise, to an extent, that most films are just cinematography and lightning with actual direction and vision and depth waaaaaaay down the list. films are too beautiful now. all surface no feeling.

also - MONKEYS!

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 22 April 2005 02:42 (eighteen years ago) link

ummm, I like some Anthony Minghella films!
but yes Aguirre is great, better than Talented Mr Ripley even!

― Levinicus (nordicskilla), Friday, 22 April 2005 04:29 (eighteen years ago) link

He killed Ian Curtis

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 22 April 2005 08:15 (eighteen years ago) link

So classic, then.

― woopsadaisy, Friday, 22 April 2005 11:10 (eighteen years ago) link

I liked Woyzek or whatever it's called best. The rats in Nosferatu are very good too. I like the monkeys in Aguirre. Have I said this before? Maybe it was on a monkey thread.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 22 April 2005 11:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Did anyone get the DVD box sets? I just bought one of teh Fassbinder ones so I'm gonna have to wait a bit for those

― Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Friday, 22 April 2005 11:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Got the Kinski one, eagerly awaiting Kasper Hauser's release in the UK.

― Masked Gazza, Friday, 22 April 2005 11:21 (eighteen years ago) link

'burden of dreams' out on dvd soon.

why did the new german cinema collapse circa 1982? fassbinder dead, wenders fucked by coppola, herzog jumping shark, schlondorff becoming an 'international' director.

― N_RQ, Friday, 22 April 2005 11:23 (eighteen years ago) link

"wenders fucked by coppola"? what do u mean?

― Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Friday, 22 April 2005 11:27 (eighteen years ago) link

He was a big football fan (back when people who said they liked football actually did like football), more as a player (he was a useful goalscorer) than a fan - Fassbinder was the major, almost obsessional, Bayern Munich fan

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 22 April 2005 11:28 (eighteen years ago) link

wenders went to hollywood/sf in about 1978 to shoot 'hammett'. he shot it, and then coppola, who was producing, made him shoot it again. he was serially dicked around, and the film only emerged in 1982. wenders made 'the state of things' in protest.

― N_Rq, Friday, 22 April 2005 11:36 (eighteen years ago) link

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> herzog himself is certainly no stranger to imitation and parody

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y_kfWUCFDQ

― koogs, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 20:59 (one year ago) link

july ain't anymore twee than harry crews

― massaman gai (front tea for two), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 21:55 (one year ago) link

that's a weird comparison and i'm a big fan so i'm gonna say no and post this video of crews explaining how to cook a possum as proof otherwise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5kjm9IuIMc

― POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 21:59 (one year ago) link

we watched some shorts last night. Last Word was easily my favorite because the music was amazzzzzing. Precautions Against Fanatics runner up bc it was so quietly funny.

― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 January 2023 21:15 (one year ago) link

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