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maybe I should quit my job and become a photographer

|$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Sunday, 1 December 2013 18:48 (ten years ago) link

the time i shot positive film & developed it recently made me so sad, like i almost felt better equipped to bemoan the inimitable heights reached by all the guys who took photos in the fifties, cause i could be like you got to shoot slide film ~all the time~. it was the same kinda prices gr8080 talked about, just to get negatives processed. nathaniel dorsky talks about working with different stocks after kodachrome's discontinuation & says it's like working with a less precious metal, & very occasionally accessing slide reminds me how lovely film can be, how much emulsion can be this vivid conditioner of the material you work with as opposed to just slight variations on realism.

just to add to the chorus you should totally get (or: find!, in case you're even vaguely affiliated with any sort of institution that might have one you could use, library/school/department at work/club/&c) a scanner. i miss prints but yeah the control is nice, & it paid for itself super quickly. also i think i love scanning, the true name of this board, became kind of a jokey self-deprecating thing after awhile but scanning is seriously how i unwind, like i am at home for three or four hours a day right now & the thing i want to do is just scan while watching a shitty movie. it isn't effort, i don't think.

love mike love (ko komo) (schlump), Sunday, 1 December 2013 19:24 (ten years ago) link

Yeah becoming a photographer full time would be pretty ace. I follow Brian Finke on tumblr (http://brianfinke.tumblr.com/) and he seems to live a very good life. Ignore the pictures of meat and every 10 days he has his checkered Vans in another airport security bin and he's going somewhere else.

But it's not like there are 10,000 Brian Finke positions out there to get.

乒乓, Sunday, 1 December 2013 19:37 (ten years ago) link

promised i would pressure-bump this thread to hassle nyc folks next time this was happening; one of my fav films, by Understander Of Celluloid Nathaniel Dorsky, playing at Light Works next wk: http://www.lightindustry.org/calendar

love mike love (ko komo) (schlump), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 23:08 (ten years ago) link

For sure

乒乓, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 23:36 (ten years ago) link

damn i'll miss that by 2 days

|$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 14:22 (ten years ago) link

i can't remember who fuks w/ nikons, but i'm curious what ILP thinks about the new Df; the rest of the photosphere certainly has ~opinions~

|$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 14:26 (ten years ago) link

i love the idea and obv it looks beautiful but the decision to not support video is hilarious trolling and def a dealbreaker for someone looking to get my first dslr

|$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 14:28 (ten years ago) link

i can't remember who fuks w/ nikons, but i'm curious what ILP thinks about the new Df; the rest of the photosphere certainly has ~opinions~

― |$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Wednesday, December 4, 2013 9:26 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark

Not a nikon or DSLR guy at all but I wasn't too excited by it. I feel like other companies get retro 'better,' like the Fuji digital rangefinders, and the Olympus OM-D

But yeah if you're gonna pay mucho money for a full frame DSLR you'd better make sure you're getting video

乒乓, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 22:11 (ten years ago) link

I use Nikon, I was pretty excited by the concept of the Df, when I first bought a DSLR I really wanted a retro-style one, but TBH it's a bit expensive and I'm not convinced it'd be that different to the D600 I've only just got, other than having the D4 sensor and no video. And yeah, Fuji and Olympus do retro 'better'.

michaellambert, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 22:36 (ten years ago) link

for someone looking to get my first dslr

Really? I can't wait to see what you do with digital.

Does the Df have a live view mode at all? If it does I imagine someone could hack it to access video.

I'm taking the 6D out every day. A joy to use. But video is something I've barely touched - I need to teach myself Premiere Elements that was bundled with the camera. I'm just taking little standard-def clips of the kids, music, etc. If I'm going to use 1080/24p I better have something to say...

Michael Jones, Thursday, 5 December 2013 00:04 (ten years ago) link

I've barely used video on either of the DSLR's I've owned that had it. It's great that it's there, but I struggle to think of anything to film.

michaellambert, Thursday, 5 December 2013 00:50 (ten years ago) link

Does the Df have a live view mode at all? If it does I imagine someone could hack it to access video.

no mic/mic input though

|$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Thursday, 5 December 2013 01:09 (ten years ago) link

i think it would be cool to be able to do simple but elegant stuff like this

http://vimeo.com/14650029

|$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Thursday, 5 December 2013 01:15 (ten years ago) link

Re mic input - you could post-sync sound. But carrying round a Nagra and a retro DSLR tethered to a netbook to capture hacked video might just be taking things too far.

I have small-capsule binaurals (with something like a 1.5m cable) that I used to use for field recordings to MiniDisc 10-12 years ago; they worked pretty well on borrowed 7D/5D2 bodies last year, yet to try them into the 6D. But, yes, little fragments, edited together, maybe verite sound coming and going. So much more work than stills though!

Michael Jones, Thursday, 5 December 2013 11:31 (ten years ago) link

i had this book, images cachees, hidden images, from the library, the catalogue for an exhibition mounted in luxembourg in which they held an open call for home video submissions, to testify to the country's semi-forgotten domestic youth. the catalogue is stills excerpted from i guess mainly eight mm home movies, some with unnecessary captions, difficult to look through without feeling frustrated by some of the curatorial selection totally necessary for it to exist. but it's so arresting. like szarkowski's line about how much there is for us to like coming from snapshots & drunks.

http://i.imgur.com/A4iv9O2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/p2aPK76.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5g5yJAz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gzPd5bV.jpg

love mike love (ko komo) (schlump), Saturday, 14 December 2013 03:32 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://i.imgur.com/tqh7o7g.gif

, Friday, 10 January 2014 13:43 (ten years ago) link

THANKS OBAMA

bizarro gazzara, Saturday, 11 January 2014 19:35 (ten years ago) link

just got an awesome surprise* gift in the mail from dayo, thanks dude!

have you ever pushed this film? if so, how far?

*if this wasn't meant to be a surprise then i was def a few old-fashions deep when we discussed it and i gave you my address

|$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Saturday, 11 January 2014 19:59 (ten years ago) link

Haha wasn't meant to be a surprise afaicr but that was a busy night for all involved

Haven't pushed that film myself - haven't actually shot it really. Maybe use a flash if it's too slow?

Figured I'm going to be in a place where it'll be relatively easy to get it so I should part with what I have

, Saturday, 11 January 2014 20:08 (ten years ago) link

why is he eatin g abee

socki (s1ocki), Sunday, 12 January 2014 02:08 (ten years ago) link

hi everyone, i know nothing about the technical side of photography but i watched Everybody Street last night and it really captured me, made me want to buy a cheap rangefinder camera to mess about with. any suggestions before i just buy the cheapest one i can get hold of on ebay?
also Bruce Gilden seems like such a dick

cerealbar, Thursday, 16 January 2014 10:01 (ten years ago) link

Canonet QL17 GIII

, Thursday, 16 January 2014 10:08 (ten years ago) link

also Bruce Gilden seems like such a dick

ha ha word
it's not like he even has this groundshaking collection of stolen pics like weegee's or anything, he just has shit he could probably achieve by waving a flash around in more amicable circumstances

mustread guy (schlump), Friday, 17 January 2014 01:16 (ten years ago) link

Left the 6D at home today for the first time since I got it. Felt good not to have a kilo and a half slung over my shoulder but, of course, I'm assaulted by images all the way into work - sky like wrestling ghosts, vivid patterns in the rain-coated streets, a gaggle of hard-hats peering at a cherry-picker, so much signage. Good to refresh the senses though.

Michael Jones, Friday, 17 January 2014 09:45 (ten years ago) link

The last two years I've done a time based challenge/project (photo a day in 2012, portrait a week in 2013), it's been nice to not have anything like that hanging over me so far this year, both could be quite time consuming or distracting. I've enjoyed the space to think more about what I'd like to achieve with a camera this year, without having come to any conclusions. Maybe improve my developing technique.

michaellambert, Friday, 17 January 2014 10:34 (ten years ago) link

I've set myself a deadline of March 31st to use up every roll of film currently in a camera and, thereafter, get an order into AG Photo at least every two months, concentrating on the FTb and the Bronica. I've let my film shooting lapse for so long I no longer have an unexpired roll in the house.

This is my wife's 1974-ish FTb and she's keen to start cranking through fast B&W again (but we don't have any!).

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5541/12180667223_d6229f51cb_c.jpg

(Taken at ISO 25600 with the 6D... you can kinda see the appeal of digital).

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 10:55 (ten years ago) link

Picked up an open-box Sigma 85mm f/1.4 from Amazon for a (relatively) bargain price last week. Presumably it was returned to Amazon by its original buyer because it front-focuses like crazy. I'm hoping AF microadjust on my 6D can save it, because when it does nail focus it is gorgeous.

http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg622/bizarrogazzara/2014-01-27_zpsd3d43943.jpg

bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 13:52 (ten years ago) link

(focus is a little off there, admittedly, but I like it anyway)

bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 13:53 (ten years ago) link

Thanks to cerealbar for the recommendation of Everybody Street upthread, by the way - I watched it recently and thought it was great, although I wished there was more on Elliot Erwitt, who I love.

bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 13:54 (ten years ago) link

I'm making books now. it's fun! Just doing blurb. it's a whole new angle to scanninglove.
also thanks to a very kind loan I'm messing with medium format! but maybe being too precious about shooting (it's only 8 photos per roll at 6x9!). it's tough to decide between formats since I've never had that question before.
I also picked up 4 wolfgan tillmans books last night and they're great!
so long flickr... hello bookworld.

chinavision!, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 14:18 (ten years ago) link

sweet bokeh bizarro

socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 14:19 (ten years ago) link

I know, right? Even if the lens does turn out to be a dud I think I'll have to get another one at full price because I dunno if I can live without access to that kind of optical quality.

bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 14:23 (ten years ago) link

china that's really inspirational!! keep us posted

mustread guy (schlump), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 14:44 (ten years ago) link

Getting pretty excited about Blurb myself, having just offered it as an option to a bride'n'groom. I should do a test run with 20 pix of the kids first...

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 14:53 (ten years ago) link

i've spent a while on blurb's website and still can't quite get what it costs... like, a 40 page book is gonna run you around $40 right?

|$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 15:51 (ten years ago) link

bokeh computer

socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 16:17 (ten years ago) link

Well, I'm looking at the UK site and...

40 pages, standard paper (118gsm), 10x8, softcover = £17
40 pages, Proline Pearl (190gsm), 12x12, hardcover w/image wrap = £60

I guess I'd go for something inbetween - premium lustre (148gsm), 13x11, hardcover w/dust jacket, £46. A fiver to ship.

I know what I'm doing this evening.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 18:29 (ten years ago) link

I did a 20 page 7x7 as a test. I guess I'll get it in a couple of weeks. I think it was $15 or so, and then maybe $25 with tax and shipping? My girlfriend printed a couple that came recently and they look nice. She did one on matte and one on a semi-gloss, and I sort of preferred the matte.
I'm just gonna make cheap stuff for now until I have a layout and order I like. Then maybe I'll do a small batch.

chinavision!, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 18:48 (ten years ago) link

I've had a voucher for Whitewall since the summer (unexpected leaving gift from changing jobs) but struggling to settle on one thing to get printed.

Haven't made a book myself yet but did help my mum do a holiday one. What's the quality like from Blurb?

michaellambert, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 18:51 (ten years ago) link

how big should image files be for a 7x7? are my drugstore scans not gonna cut it?

|$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 18:54 (ten years ago) link

don't think they need to be that big really. I resize my pictures for 6x4, and for the book I sized down to 90%.
Sooo... that's 5.4" x 3.6" and at that size an image that is 1620 pixels wide by 1080 pixels high would print at 300 dpi, which is plenty high res.

chinavision!, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 19:01 (ten years ago) link

hey have we never had a hysterical matte vs gloss print discussion on ILP? bc FUCK GLOSS

mustread guy (schlump), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 19:08 (ten years ago) link

And now I've spent the evening putting a book together.

michaellambert, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 23:01 (ten years ago) link

Me too! Just a simple 7x7, soft cover, 40pp, kids' pics from 2013. Should be under £20 with postage. Rendering out to Blurb now...

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 23:31 (ten years ago) link

Did you use Lightroom to put it together? I've done mine that way, felt a lot easier to work with than any web editor I've tried before. I think I have my final version now, won't order it til tomorrow night though just in case I think of something else I want to change.

michaellambert, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 00:40 (ten years ago) link

ILP books in '14

|$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 00:44 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, Lightroom. I kept it very simple.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 01:17 (ten years ago) link

Made this motherfucker:

http://richardgin.tumblr.com/post/74949332873/good-morning-internet-friends-i-am-pleased-and

Let me know how your Blurb stuff looks. I'm so anal about my colors that I decided to just go w a c-town printer in NYC (vs blurb or shutterfly or kodak or w/e) because I would have rather have the 'we only guarantee to w/in 10%' problem removed from me so I can say "well It's a digital print wtf do you want, dummy?"

Blurb etc all seem so permanent; if I pay 40 bux to have a book made it had better be goddamn ass perfect.


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