Pitchfork's Chris Ott takes No Prisoners

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Like he became the crabby bullshit uncle at Thanksgiving we've all heard about.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 1 December 2013 18:56 (ten years ago) link

and this surprised folks?

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 1 December 2013 19:01 (ten years ago) link

Wish people would stop taking the bait.

Also: http://laurasnapes.tumblr.com/post/68689072745/who-are-you-to-say-whats-significant

Murgatroid, Sunday, 1 December 2013 19:11 (ten years ago) link

He does Chris Ott better than anybody, he might as well get in on it.

Skatalite of Dub (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 1 December 2013 19:13 (ten years ago) link

Ok what's going on?

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 1 December 2013 19:14 (ten years ago) link

let me guess: a person on this earth did something condemnable that we can now condemn if we so choose

sleepingbag, Sunday, 1 December 2013 19:17 (ten years ago) link

I need deets bruh

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 1 December 2013 19:18 (ten years ago) link

i don't; i condemn the person/thing. smh wtf etc go broncos

sleepingbag, Sunday, 1 December 2013 19:21 (ten years ago) link

Apparently this is the cause of the kerfuffle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHo9XHm3tWY

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 1 December 2013 19:24 (ten years ago) link

Try watching this Vikings/Bears game & you'll be begging for some choice nuggs of Ott drama

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 1 December 2013 19:25 (ten years ago) link

Haha... Damn..

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 1 December 2013 19:47 (ten years ago) link

so his alternative to writers who are getting paid, however little, is to do it themselves and not get paid and also provide free content for twitter and tumblr?

sleepingbag, Sunday, 1 December 2013 19:50 (ten years ago) link

Does he have scoliosis?

Why does he light the room that way, ugh

polyphonic, Sunday, 1 December 2013 19:52 (ten years ago) link

"All you people living in Bushwick excited about seeing new bands...why are you giving this exuberance to this company?"

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 December 2013 19:53 (ten years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/lHoc33e.jpg

Do you think he consciously goes for this look. I bet he does

乒乓, Sunday, 1 December 2013 19:59 (ten years ago) link

Chris Ott: 'True Blue' was a big ass hit for Madonna. I don't even follow this Tops In Pops shit, and I've at least heard of "True Blue".

乒乓, Sunday, 1 December 2013 20:00 (ten years ago) link

it's just a matter of time until we have to change this thread title because he's actually begun taking prisoners

some dude, Sunday, 1 December 2013 20:29 (ten years ago) link

drawing attention to the DIY scene-journalism-advertising-venture capital foodchain seems worthwhile to me

at least, I'll take this over slinging homophobic taunts at Grizzlybros

the tune was space, Sunday, 1 December 2013 20:29 (ten years ago) link

it's not an either/or thing, he can do both! he's a renaissance man!

some dude, Sunday, 1 December 2013 20:34 (ten years ago) link

He's replaced his homophobia with a barely-veiled creepy targeting of female music writers

Murgatroid, Sunday, 1 December 2013 20:44 (ten years ago) link

renaissance. man.

some dude, Sunday, 1 December 2013 20:46 (ten years ago) link

With bennies

乒乓, Sunday, 1 December 2013 20:48 (ten years ago) link

Ugh this guy sucks

goth drama is universal (latebloomer), Sunday, 1 December 2013 20:48 (ten years ago) link

there ott-a be a law

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 December 2013 20:49 (ten years ago) link

There oughta be a windscreen on that mic.

Skatalite of Dub (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 1 December 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link

drawing attention to the DIY scene-journalism-advertising-venture capital foodchain seems worthwhile to me

otm generally, but he actually spends like 3/4 of the video exhibiting funny ways to call pro journalists stupid rather than drawing out a helpful analysis. also, like sleepingbag said, his proposed alternative seems to be that writers give away the same content for free, easy to say when you've already got long bennies

een, Sunday, 1 December 2013 21:35 (ten years ago) link

there's an interesting (sort of) move going on in which he pre-empts the accusation that he's just old and stuck in nostalgia for his own DIY scene glory days by delegitimizing and pooh-pooh-ing his own regional scenester past- I don't mean to be Capt. Save-a-Ott but that shows at least some self-awareness about the problem of the older/wiser platform from which he's castigating millenials for being sheeple / naive about the corporate entanglements of web media (tho it also makes you wonder about whether that's just another form of navel-gazing self-importance too)

(said the 42 year old just before running away)

the tune was space, Sunday, 1 December 2013 21:40 (ten years ago) link

I prefer this stuff when it's coming from dash snowden

乒乓, Sunday, 1 December 2013 21:45 (ten years ago) link

He poo-poos his old scene because it included people who weren't him. It took him awhile to realize that he's the only person who mattered.

polyphonic, Sunday, 1 December 2013 21:54 (ten years ago) link

by delegitimizing and pooh-pooh-ing his own regional scenester past

Is he really delegitimizing and pooh-pooh-ing his scenester past though. Isn't he saying that he was part of a purer and cleaner scene because they weren't playing for viewcounts and retweets but were only "doing it to have fun" or whatever.

乒乓, Sunday, 1 December 2013 22:04 (ten years ago) link

Must ...not ... link to that one Onion article again.

Skatalite of Dub (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 1 December 2013 22:18 (ten years ago) link

His presentation in that video is just hilarious. Like I have no idea exactly what effect he's going for but the tired concerned sad look plus thinly veiled contempt in his voice plus full frame pompadour just makes for near constant giggles on my part.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Sunday, 1 December 2013 22:28 (ten years ago) link

he doesn't understand how money works

lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Sunday, 1 December 2013 22:48 (ten years ago) link

"it's not just that i'm older" omg

i like how he points to "the same thirteen million amount, its spooky."

this is some glen beck level fight the new world order going on

lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Sunday, 1 December 2013 22:49 (ten years ago) link

i don't know what he's angry about.

cue josie "they're using.. our music.. to sell stuff!"

lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Sunday, 1 December 2013 23:04 (ten years ago) link

if not for this guy the nme might start publishing insignificant journalism regularly way to take a bold stand

lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Sunday, 1 December 2013 23:07 (ten years ago) link

I "get" what he's doing, and find it weirdly watchable—then again, I spent most of the afternoon drunk+banging my head on the floor, so being yelled at by an aging punk could be seen as a step up

confused subconscious U2 association (bernard snowy), Sunday, 1 December 2013 23:33 (ten years ago) link

he seems to me to be presenting himself as earnest-but-uncool relic of a bygone era ("zine culture") lecturing kids today on what that culture was, why that culture died, what replaced it, and why contemporary artists and journalists who have latched on to its ideals and tried to run with them are fucking it all up

confused subconscious U2 association (bernard snowy), Sunday, 1 December 2013 23:37 (ten years ago) link

I keep thinking of the grad student in Slacker who videos his manifesto before taking his advising committee hostage.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 1 December 2013 23:38 (ten years ago) link

it's just a matter of time until we have to change this thread title because he's actually begun taking prisoners

― some dude, Sunday, December 1, 2013 3:29 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

call all destroyer, Sunday, 1 December 2013 23:39 (ten years ago) link

niiiice

confused subconscious U2 association (bernard snowy), Sunday, 1 December 2013 23:39 (ten years ago) link

actual lol @ that sd quote

rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 2 December 2013 01:34 (ten years ago) link

i for one was shocked to find out that media company bosses make more than the people writing articles for those companies. capitalism gone mad

rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 2 December 2013 01:34 (ten years ago) link

until i saw that video i had no idea how much charlie sheen had let himself go

lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Monday, 2 December 2013 02:00 (ten years ago) link

I already nailed it with the Nice Guy Eddie reference upthread. No further celebrity comparisons will be allowed from this point on

乒乓, Monday, 2 December 2013 02:03 (ten years ago) link

That video is so weird. It's got the not-terrible analysis of the big picture economics of the media landscape, paired with the weird attribution of responsibility for this situation to writers and bands. And then the demand that writers publish their work for free so they can remain pure, instead of pushing forth what Ott views as an irredeemably corrupt system.

It seems like an analogue of the "buy ethical" argument, this idea that it's incredibly crucial to make sure you're never purchasing anything that has any dicey production practices. Which I think everyone does in certain doses, but becomes a total dead end when taken to extremes. If you spend all your time making sure you never make "unethical" purchases, you end up spending a ton of time, money, and energy that you could have spent more actively making the earth less terrible.

intheblanks, Monday, 2 December 2013 02:18 (ten years ago) link

That's not even getting into the digressions about NME, and how dare they try to draw attention to a scene that's not actually significant, like that's this weird new thing that NME is doing in 2013.

intheblanks, Monday, 2 December 2013 02:18 (ten years ago) link


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