Like he became the crabby bullshit uncle at Thanksgiving we've all heard about.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 1 December 2013 18:56 (ten years ago) link
and this surprised folks?
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 1 December 2013 19:01 (ten years ago) link
Wish people would stop taking the bait.
Also: http://laurasnapes.tumblr.com/post/68689072745/who-are-you-to-say-whats-significant
― Murgatroid, Sunday, 1 December 2013 19:11 (ten years ago) link
He does Chris Ott better than anybody, he might as well get in on it.
― Skatalite of Dub (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 1 December 2013 19:13 (ten years ago) link
Ok what's going on?
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 1 December 2013 19:14 (ten years ago) link
let me guess: a person on this earth did something condemnable that we can now condemn if we so choose
― sleepingbag, Sunday, 1 December 2013 19:17 (ten years ago) link
I need deets bruh
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 1 December 2013 19:18 (ten years ago) link
i don't; i condemn the person/thing. smh wtf etc go broncos
― sleepingbag, Sunday, 1 December 2013 19:21 (ten years ago) link
Apparently this is the cause of the kerfuffle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHo9XHm3tWY
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 1 December 2013 19:24 (ten years ago) link
Try watching this Vikings/Bears game & you'll be begging for some choice nuggs of Ott drama
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 1 December 2013 19:25 (ten years ago) link
Haha... Damn..
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 1 December 2013 19:47 (ten years ago) link
so his alternative to writers who are getting paid, however little, is to do it themselves and not get paid and also provide free content for twitter and tumblr?
― sleepingbag, Sunday, 1 December 2013 19:50 (ten years ago) link
Does he have scoliosis?
Why does he light the room that way, ugh
― polyphonic, Sunday, 1 December 2013 19:52 (ten years ago) link
"All you people living in Bushwick excited about seeing new bands...why are you giving this exuberance to this company?"
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 December 2013 19:53 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/lHoc33e.jpg
Do you think he consciously goes for this look. I bet he does
― 乒乓, Sunday, 1 December 2013 19:59 (ten years ago) link
Chris Ott: 'True Blue' was a big ass hit for Madonna. I don't even follow this Tops In Pops shit, and I've at least heard of "True Blue".
― 乒乓, Sunday, 1 December 2013 20:00 (ten years ago) link
Kidnapping Bushwicker for non-hip Deniece Williams dancing.
http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTUxMDU1Mjk5MV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMjI1MTkxNA@@._V1._SX640_SY956_.jpg
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 December 2013 20:02 (ten years ago) link
it's just a matter of time until we have to change this thread title because he's actually begun taking prisoners
― some dude, Sunday, 1 December 2013 20:29 (ten years ago) link
drawing attention to the DIY scene-journalism-advertising-venture capital foodchain seems worthwhile to me
at least, I'll take this over slinging homophobic taunts at Grizzlybros
― the tune was space, Sunday, 1 December 2013 20:29 (ten years ago) link
it's not an either/or thing, he can do both! he's a renaissance man!
― some dude, Sunday, 1 December 2013 20:34 (ten years ago) link
He's replaced his homophobia with a barely-veiled creepy targeting of female music writers
― Murgatroid, Sunday, 1 December 2013 20:44 (ten years ago) link
renaissance. man.
― some dude, Sunday, 1 December 2013 20:46 (ten years ago) link
With bennies
― 乒乓, Sunday, 1 December 2013 20:48 (ten years ago) link
Ugh this guy sucks
― goth drama is universal (latebloomer), Sunday, 1 December 2013 20:48 (ten years ago) link
there ott-a be a law
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 December 2013 20:49 (ten years ago) link
There oughta be a windscreen on that mic.
― Skatalite of Dub (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 1 December 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link
otm generally, but he actually spends like 3/4 of the video exhibiting funny ways to call pro journalists stupid rather than drawing out a helpful analysis. also, like sleepingbag said, his proposed alternative seems to be that writers give away the same content for free, easy to say when you've already got long bennies
― een, Sunday, 1 December 2013 21:35 (ten years ago) link
there's an interesting (sort of) move going on in which he pre-empts the accusation that he's just old and stuck in nostalgia for his own DIY scene glory days by delegitimizing and pooh-pooh-ing his own regional scenester past- I don't mean to be Capt. Save-a-Ott but that shows at least some self-awareness about the problem of the older/wiser platform from which he's castigating millenials for being sheeple / naive about the corporate entanglements of web media (tho it also makes you wonder about whether that's just another form of navel-gazing self-importance too)
(said the 42 year old just before running away)
― the tune was space, Sunday, 1 December 2013 21:40 (ten years ago) link
I prefer this stuff when it's coming from dash snowden
― 乒乓, Sunday, 1 December 2013 21:45 (ten years ago) link
He poo-poos his old scene because it included people who weren't him. It took him awhile to realize that he's the only person who mattered.
― polyphonic, Sunday, 1 December 2013 21:54 (ten years ago) link
http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=1Q-fkC4aRwUigM&tbnid=hVR8S7V843KuEM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fguyspeed.com%2Fdrunk-uncle-snl%2F&ei=urCbUqnFLI_xoASQr4E4&bvm=bv.57155469,d.cGU&psig=AFQjCNH7-lVg9QOZLARXp1E6iXybeJ0DJw&ust=1386021420457481
― da croupier, Sunday, 1 December 2013 21:57 (ten years ago) link
http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/guyspeed.com/files/2013/07/Uncle-4.gif
by delegitimizing and pooh-pooh-ing his own regional scenester past
Is he really delegitimizing and pooh-pooh-ing his scenester past though. Isn't he saying that he was part of a purer and cleaner scene because they weren't playing for viewcounts and retweets but were only "doing it to have fun" or whatever.
― 乒乓, Sunday, 1 December 2013 22:04 (ten years ago) link
Must ...not ... link to that one Onion article again.
― Skatalite of Dub (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 1 December 2013 22:18 (ten years ago) link
His presentation in that video is just hilarious. Like I have no idea exactly what effect he's going for but the tired concerned sad look plus thinly veiled contempt in his voice plus full frame pompadour just makes for near constant giggles on my part.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Sunday, 1 December 2013 22:28 (ten years ago) link
he doesn't understand how money works
― lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Sunday, 1 December 2013 22:48 (ten years ago) link
"it's not just that i'm older" omg
i like how he points to "the same thirteen million amount, its spooky."
this is some glen beck level fight the new world order going on
― lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Sunday, 1 December 2013 22:49 (ten years ago) link
i don't know what he's angry about.
cue josie "they're using.. our music.. to sell stuff!"
― lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Sunday, 1 December 2013 23:04 (ten years ago) link
if not for this guy the nme might start publishing insignificant journalism regularly way to take a bold stand
― lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Sunday, 1 December 2013 23:07 (ten years ago) link
I "get" what he's doing, and find it weirdly watchable—then again, I spent most of the afternoon drunk+banging my head on the floor, so being yelled at by an aging punk could be seen as a step up
― confused subconscious U2 association (bernard snowy), Sunday, 1 December 2013 23:33 (ten years ago) link
he seems to me to be presenting himself as earnest-but-uncool relic of a bygone era ("zine culture") lecturing kids today on what that culture was, why that culture died, what replaced it, and why contemporary artists and journalists who have latched on to its ideals and tried to run with them are fucking it all up
― confused subconscious U2 association (bernard snowy), Sunday, 1 December 2013 23:37 (ten years ago) link
I keep thinking of the grad student in Slacker who videos his manifesto before taking his advising committee hostage.
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 1 December 2013 23:38 (ten years ago) link
― some dude, Sunday, December 1, 2013 3:29 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 1 December 2013 23:39 (ten years ago) link
niiiice
― confused subconscious U2 association (bernard snowy), Sunday, 1 December 2013 23:39 (ten years ago) link
actual lol @ that sd quote
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 2 December 2013 01:34 (ten years ago) link
i for one was shocked to find out that media company bosses make more than the people writing articles for those companies. capitalism gone mad
until i saw that video i had no idea how much charlie sheen had let himself go
― lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Monday, 2 December 2013 02:00 (ten years ago) link
I already nailed it with the Nice Guy Eddie reference upthread. No further celebrity comparisons will be allowed from this point on
― 乒乓, Monday, 2 December 2013 02:03 (ten years ago) link
That video is so weird. It's got the not-terrible analysis of the big picture economics of the media landscape, paired with the weird attribution of responsibility for this situation to writers and bands. And then the demand that writers publish their work for free so they can remain pure, instead of pushing forth what Ott views as an irredeemably corrupt system.
It seems like an analogue of the "buy ethical" argument, this idea that it's incredibly crucial to make sure you're never purchasing anything that has any dicey production practices. Which I think everyone does in certain doses, but becomes a total dead end when taken to extremes. If you spend all your time making sure you never make "unethical" purchases, you end up spending a ton of time, money, and energy that you could have spent more actively making the earth less terrible.
― intheblanks, Monday, 2 December 2013 02:18 (ten years ago) link
That's not even getting into the digressions about NME, and how dare they try to draw attention to a scene that's not actually significant, like that's this weird new thing that NME is doing in 2013.