Think there is somebody missing from this thread: Sticky-Uppy Hair
― Skatalite of Dub (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 December 2013 03:31 (ten years ago) link
these videos resemble joe pesci in jfk more and more
― papa smango (fadanuf4erybody), Monday, 2 December 2013 03:39 (ten years ago) link
The New Yorker is also a huge loss leader for Condé Nast iirc
― 乒乓, Sunday, December 1, 2013 9:33 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is a good thing imho?
― socki (s1ocki), Monday, 2 December 2013 04:08 (ten years ago) link
tbh i think it's the "he has to offer an alternative" that fucks this all up -- he DOES offer an alternative, it's just dumb and misguided, and the whole thing would've just been better as a floating rant about how badly the industry has changed wrt the branding and the money (this has happened in every industry but w/e). maybe he's smart enough to know that nothing he says in his dumb vlog is ever going to change the way the venture capitalists and whatnot act, and he needed SOMEONE to yell at, so, uh, why not the plebes feeding the machine? guess he's not smart enough to know that there'll ALWAYS be people willing to make 5 cents a word to replace all these new tumblr martyrs? idgi
there really is nothing he can say to anyone that'll change the way the system works. he just ends up coming off as a dude using an otm rant about capitalism to cover up his baseless disdain for certain writers
― my whole family is catholic so look at the pickle i'm in (zachlyon), Monday, 2 December 2013 04:20 (ten years ago) link
also jfc how old is chris? how can he possibly have this super-old-person "you have the whole internet at your fingertips! your opportunities are endless! the world wide web is a real game-changer!" attitude? this is so close to my mom telling me that i need to start making tutorials for things and putting them on youtube "i don't know how but i think you just have to put tutorials on youtube and you'll start getting money"
― my whole family is catholic so look at the pickle i'm in (zachlyon), Monday, 2 December 2013 04:36 (ten years ago) link
when the vid started in on those bands from the early-mid 80s i thought "oh wait was that his scene, i guess he has been around for a minute" and then lol headfake his 'scene' was shittier bands from way later. also i thought those early-80s bands were pretty good sounding from the clips and i was thinking maybe he'd big-up them or something?
he's vehemently arguing for the status quo, basically.
― lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Monday, 2 December 2013 04:41 (ten years ago) link
i'll bet that most everything he rails against now is pretty similar to the way things worked in the 90s, the 80s, the 70s, etc. every era has some big magazines or sites or what-have-you that become well-recognized gatekeepers/taste-makers, and i'd bet those magazines or sites invariably become too cozy with their favorite labels or acts.
brb, i gotta go dig out my copy of clap-your-hands-say-yeah.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Monday, 2 December 2013 04:41 (ten years ago) link
Thought those bands sounded fine too, guess I fell for the lol head fake.
― Skatalite of Dub (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 December 2013 04:50 (ten years ago) link
lol yeah my biggest takeaway from the whole thing was "wow i want to listen to the oysters"
― my whole family is catholic so look at the pickle i'm in (zachlyon), Monday, 2 December 2013 04:51 (ten years ago) link
Haha, me too. In fact head fake fits in with the whole shinola-grin wearing "I know something you don't because I have a third eye that allows me to distinguish among things that are otherwise identical DO U SEE?" vibe.
― Skatalite of Dub (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 December 2013 04:55 (ten years ago) link
anyone know where this guy is from? i kinda figure he's from Boston, woke up one morning, read the story in the NME and got super bitter that it was this new scene and not his old scene that's having a moment, and that's why he zeroed in on the Pelly/NME piece.
― alpine static, Monday, 2 December 2013 05:56 (ten years ago) link
also, yeah, some dude w/ the lol line of the thread
― alpine static, Monday, 2 December 2013 05:57 (ten years ago) link
alpine static
― buzza, Monday, 2 December 2013 07:00 (ten years ago) link
http://www.hipsterrunoff.com/node/8599
this piece did this whole steez much more effectively imo
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 2 December 2013 07:48 (ten years ago) link
I gave up midway through the video. I was getting a weird feeling that Ott was trying to channel Professor Brian O'Blivion in Videodrome and then I couldn't stop laughing.
His argument feels stale. I'm sure I read something similar in Maximum Rock & Roll in the early 90s.
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 2 December 2013 09:34 (ten years ago) link
http://www.cartoonito.co.uk/sites/www.cartoonito.co.uk/files/imagecache/Image-Character-280-280/robbieroten-mainimage.jpg
― how's life, Monday, 2 December 2013 10:15 (ten years ago) link
It's weird that he thinks that writing an article in NME equates to letting us all know about something.
― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Monday, 2 December 2013 11:35 (ten years ago) link
and that P4K was covering Radiohead before Spin and Rolling Stone
― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Monday, 2 December 2013 11:38 (ten years ago) link
yeah that was bizarre
― some dude, Monday, 2 December 2013 12:23 (ten years ago) link
http://s.pixogs.com/image/R-2428040-1283501627.jpeg
― Skatalite of Dub (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 December 2013 12:59 (ten years ago) link
http://images.45cat.com/les-baxter-his-chorus-and-orchestra-wake-the-town-and-tell-the-people-capitol.jpghttp://images.45cat.com/les-baxter-his-chorus-and-orchestra-wake-the-town-and-tell-the-people-capitol.jpg
― Skatalite of Dub (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 December 2013 13:01 (ten years ago) link
So he slams the NME for covering a young, obscure, interesting band that the editor and writer both love because "It doesn't translate at scale" and somehow he's the truth-talking dreamer? Sheesh.
lol at "be strong enough to be alone on a Friday night"
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 2 December 2013 13:30 (ten years ago) link
never 4get
https://twitter.com/shallowrewards/status/368973419829673984
― goole, Monday, 2 December 2013 17:57 (ten years ago) link
Wait his Twitter avatar is 'The Orc'? I'm glad I missed or forgot that.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 December 2013 18:00 (ten years ago) link
"What does the orc say?"
"GODDAMN KIDS *wracking tears*"
ott ends one of these videos crying in a snowy field to slowdive's "blue skied an' clear" so i like to believe that is the sole content of his every vlog
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 2 December 2013 18:21 (ten years ago) link
one sad thing is, when he tries to be the change he wants to see in the world, sitting sans advertising in a snowy field discussing the merits of the Curve oeuvre, no one cares. It's only when he goes drunk uncle and curses the darkness of his fellow writers that other critics and nerds go "oh right, he exists." When he lights a candle, it's just him and a candle.
― da croupier, Monday, 2 December 2013 18:31 (ten years ago) link
Brutal but accurate
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 2 December 2013 18:32 (ten years ago) link
That's a fair point. I actually do like passionate, enthusiastic Ott better than "Musicians/writers are fucking shills and evil and P4K and ..." Ott
― intheblanks, Monday, 2 December 2013 18:34 (ten years ago) link
this wouldn't be sad, of course, if he was fine sitting with his candle of wisdom, waiting for the young and deluded to come to bask in its glow. but instead he grumbles about how everything's changed and he's seen it all before, arbitrarily shitting on whatever scribe made his radar.
― da croupier, Monday, 2 December 2013 18:35 (ten years ago) link
never 4gethttps://twitter.com/shallowrewards/status/368973419829673984― goole, Monday, December 2, 2013 12:57 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― goole, Monday, December 2, 2013 12:57 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
can I just say that every time this comes up I laugh my ass off
― deX! (DJP), Monday, 2 December 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link
The solipsistic self-regard with which this guy gazes into the camera to disdain and dismiss everybody's epinion but his own reminds me of that one gif of Geir as every single child in Village of the Damned, which I can't look for right now.
― Skatalite of Dub (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 December 2013 18:58 (ten years ago) link
can't wait til the day this guy returns to ilx
― flopson, Monday, 2 December 2013 19:26 (ten years ago) link
http://www.dominicanablog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Albrecht-Durer-The-Revelation-of-St-John-12-The-Sea-Monster-and-the-Beast-with-the-Lambs-Horn.jpg
― tylerw, Monday, 2 December 2013 19:28 (ten years ago) link
I wonder how he spends his time besides being dumpy. Maybe he stands behind his friends while he makes them watch videos of himself ranting.
― Evan, Monday, 2 December 2013 19:28 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/lqNziP6.png
― 乒乓, Monday, 2 December 2013 19:29 (ten years ago) link
was 'besides being dumpy' meant to say 'besides being grumpy'?
― elegant eyes, aristocrat face, gorgeous hair (soref), Monday, 2 December 2013 19:30 (ten years ago) link
oh I hope not
― deX! (DJP), Monday, 2 December 2013 19:30 (ten years ago) link
'I wonder how he spends his time besides being dumpy' is a funny sentence either way.
― elegant eyes, aristocrat face, gorgeous hair (soref), Monday, 2 December 2013 19:31 (ten years ago) link
I meant dumpy, yeah.
― Evan, Monday, 2 December 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link
k i'm finally watching this and am DYING to know what ethical, non-capitalistic company he gets his 94k and bennies from
― call all destroyer, Monday, 2 December 2013 19:40 (ten years ago) link
^^ exactly
― 乒乓, Monday, 2 December 2013 19:42 (ten years ago) link
Google
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 2 December 2013 19:43 (ten years ago) link
Pitchfork.tv should remake "A Woman Under The Influence" recasting Ott as Mabel.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 2 December 2013 19:43 (ten years ago) link
"the largest fashion corporation....in england"
― call all destroyer, Monday, 2 December 2013 19:44 (ten years ago) link
Like, boomers have been telling millennials since before the crash of 2008 to "follow your bliss" and find a job that you love to do. Okay, that'd be good if you can get it. And some people do get it. Some people love to write about music and they found jobs that paid them money to write about music. But Gen X Chris Ott comes along and says no, that's selling out maaaaaan, you need to do it out of the pureness of your heart. Follow my lead and make 94k with bennies from unchecked corporate capitalism; in your spare time, vlog about music for free. I'm selling out during my day job to capitalism but at least my music writing is pure and untouched. That way you know my opinions about deep album cuts from Moose have not been influenced by InBev.
― 乒乓, Monday, 2 December 2013 19:47 (ten years ago) link
so i think his point is that it was ok for pitchfork to write about radiohead and leverage that into becoming the most influential music website (and make some money in the process) but it's not ok to write about speedy ortiz in nme because speedy ortiz is not a notable enough band to transcend predatory capitalism, and therefore you should be alone on friday night?
― call all destroyer, Monday, 2 December 2013 19:51 (ten years ago) link
also women amirite
― katherine, Monday, 2 December 2013 20:04 (ten years ago) link
call all destroyer plus katherine otm
― intheblanks, Monday, 2 December 2013 20:25 (ten years ago) link
does chris ott have aspergers syndrome? he's like that guy from the vines but he's got a real sad pompadour
― illegalblues, Monday, 2 December 2013 22:11 (ten years ago) link